[HN Gopher] Using a 1965 Dutch Rotary Phone via VoIP (T65) in 2024
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       Using a 1965 Dutch Rotary Phone via VoIP (T65) in 2024
        
       Author : el_duderino
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2024-06-15 12:25 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (raymii.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (raymii.org)
        
       | wkat4242 wrote:
       | The T65 was a formidable phone. Very good audio too.
       | 
       | It's hard to drive with modern electronics because the bell is
       | pretty heavy, and the speakers was well. But it's worth doing it.
        
       | Muromec wrote:
       | The other approach is to make the phone do voip stuff by itself,
       | as in put a linux board in, connect speaker and mic to it and
       | setup baresip with some button ui.
        
       | jmclnx wrote:
       | Interesting, that is a nice looking phone. At the same time here
       | in the US, AT&T Phones were ugly in comparison. But they were
       | indestructible at least, even when you wanted to break them :)
        
         | jbverschoor wrote:
         | These were also indestructible :) Probably has been a murder
         | weapon at one point too
        
       | wdb wrote:
       | We had the Ericofoon at home. It's a nice phone
        
       | t0mas88 wrote:
       | I think that type of phone was everywhere because the national
       | telecom provider (PTT at the time) handed them out with a
       | subscription plan? I remember seeing "property of PTT" stickers
       | on them.
        
       | YouWhy wrote:
       | I'm so happy the article opts for reusing the original equipment,
       | as opposed to recycling it (i.e., refilling the original case
       | with different innards)
       | 
       | Legacy POTS is still well supported via modern ATA/FXS. I feel
       | the heritage value is much better served via this path.
        
       | landgenoot wrote:
       | If you pick up a very old fritz box. Pulse dialing support is
       | included.
       | 
       | Source: I hooked up an old Dutch coin operated payphone to a
       | fritz box 7170 (2007) without problems.
        
         | effdee wrote:
         | Newer ones also support it. Here's a list (if the green column
         | says "ja" it's supported):
         | 
         | http://www.ptt-apparate.ch/IWV-Router/IWV-Router.html
         | 
         | The footnote mentions that the rotary dial's timing must be
         | correct.
        
         | tomatocracy wrote:
         | In addition to the HT5xx ATA mentioned in the article, the
         | newer Grandstream ATAs (at least the HT7/8xx models) also
         | support pulse dialing.
         | 
         | One issue that can come up though is that they effectively have
         | tighter tolerances than old mechanical exchanges did for
         | timings, so sometimes an older rotary phone can have timings
         | which are within the official tolerances of the time for the
         | local market but outside tolerances for US standards (digital
         | pulse dialing phones are usually within spec for both because
         | the tolerance ranges overlap).
        
       | effdee wrote:
       | > This old device should support pulse tone dialing, but it did
       | not work with mine. Might be the custom firmware, might be AVM
       | dropping support in later versions, I'm not sure.
       | 
       | The timings of the phone's rotaty dial might be off. Allegedly
       | FritzBoxes are rather conservative when it comes to these
       | timings.
       | 
       | I just had the same problem with an old Tischfernsprecher W 48
       | which neither worked on a FritzBox 7560 nor a 7590. Adding a
       | pulse to tone converter solved the problem.
       | 
       | Btw, in case pulse dialing works with a FritzBox one can dial #
       | via hook flash. This allows to dial the internal numbers [0].
       | 
       | [0] (in German) https://www.wasser.de/telefon-
       | alt/forum/index.pl?job=thema&t...
        
         | 082349872349872 wrote:
         | In the US, whatever was interpreting the pulse dialling was
         | very lenient; some people tried to create "incoming-only"
         | phones by locking a metal plate over the rotary dial, but other
         | people would make outgoing call pulses manually via hook flash.
        
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