[HN Gopher] The 'Network of Web Trees' in Gaza
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       The 'Network of Web Trees' in Gaza
        
       Author : mwenge
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2024-06-13 07:19 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | gnabgib wrote:
       | Article title: _The ingenious 'network tree' defying Gaza 's
       | connectivity blockade_
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       | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
       | solarpunk wrote:
       | this is pretty neat, reminds me of cuba's meshnet system.
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       | i was wondering how all the efforts to buy gazan's eSIMs was
       | going, this seems to be one of the results.
        
         | rl3 wrote:
         | > _i was wondering how all the efforts to buy gazan 's eSIMs
         | was going, this seems to be one of the results._
         | 
         | The eSIM stuff terrifies me, because you know damn well they're
         | feeding that data into their intelligence apparatus for
         | targeting purposes, and recent history has shown thus far that
         | they don't give much of a shit about collateral damage.
         | 
         | I highly suspect that nearby cellular activity increases the
         | chances of being injured or killed by an airstrike.
        
           | aspenmayer wrote:
           | Some eSIM resources for you and the group:
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           | Anonymous eSIM with no KYC
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           | https://silent.link/
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           | Anatomy of the eSIM profile
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           | https://media.ccc.de/v/osmodevcon2024-174-anatomy-of-the-
           | esi...
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           | Exploring eUICCs and eSIMS using pySim, lpac and osmo-smdpp
           | 
           | https://media.ccc.de/v/osmodevcall-20240117-laforce-euicc-
           | es...
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           | A Look at eSIMs and Number Hijacking
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           | https://intel471.com/blog/a-look-at-esims-and-number-
           | hijacki...
        
         | aspenmayer wrote:
         | > cuba's meshnet system
         | 
         | Related:
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         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal
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         | https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-cuban-cdn/
        
           | Pfhortune wrote:
           | Amazing stuff. Thank you for sharing! I think Cuba is ahead
           | of the curve here, considering the direction the internet is
           | going these days WRT encroaching censorship and media
           | availability issues.
        
       | dmbche wrote:
       | It's not extremely clear to me - they manage to put phones with
       | Esim where there is signal and set up a hotspot for other phones?
       | Or do they maintain hotspots near the border for the people in
       | Gaza to conect to? Or a mix of both?
        
         | solarpunk wrote:
         | seems like a mix of both.
        
       | solarpunk wrote:
       | I went to the NGO to see if there any further technical
       | specifications to read about, it doesn't seem so:
       | https://www.acs-italia.it/gazaweb-e-gli-alberi-della-rete/
       | 
       | it seems to be purely built upon cellular connectivity and
       | hotspots!
       | 
       | I'm shocked there's no meshnet stuff involved here, but I suppose
       | we can't see much details beyond the backbone, last-mile
       | connectivity methods are probably extremely hodgepodge.
        
       | localfirst wrote:
       | I wonder if something like this will become more prolific sort of
       | like the rise of private gated suburban cities that has their own
       | unrestricted internet jurisdiction vs the public facilities that
       | overtime become ghettos with their own web trees capable of
       | evading surveillance (by the group that wakes up every morning
       | worried about losing it all to the people outside the fence).
       | 
       | Often wars are frontiers for societal shifts that arises from new
       | technological inventions/adaptations. What we are seeing in Gaza
       | very may well become a reality in the West in the future: a
       | divorce of a globally connected world into its own islands that
       | can only be accessed via physical proximity or like in my earlier
       | example, _socioeconomic_ class, even by ethnicity.
        
       | pphysch wrote:
       | I've never seen "Gazzawi" used before as a demonym instead of
       | Gazan.
        
       | throw0320 wrote:
       | And imagine securing food, water and electricity in such
       | conditions!
       | 
       | Israel should open borders and allow war refugees to evacuate!
       | There is no reason to leave civilians there, while they fight!
        
         | hiddencost wrote:
         | I mean Israel should withdraw, sign the peace deal to get the
         | hostages free, send Netanyahu and Gallant to the ICJ, and pay
         | reparations to rebuild Gaza.
         | 
         | That can take a 3% discount, for the October 7 attacks, given
         | that they've taken at least 30 civilian lives for every one
         | they lost.
        
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