[HN Gopher] Mouth-based touchpad enables people living with para...
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       Mouth-based touchpad enables people living with paralysis to use
       computers
        
       Author : gmays
       Score  : 113 points
       Date   : 2024-06-13 18:43 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | xnx wrote:
       | Assistive technology for the disabled is the higher use for
       | mouth-input, but it'd be great to have a simple bluetooth
       | mouthguard with media playback controls (play, pause, next
       | previous) for action sports.
        
         | sa-code wrote:
         | Could you provide some examples of this?
        
           | xnx wrote:
           | While snowboarding or skiing, it is difficult to control
           | music playback because bulky gloves are being worn. Cycling
           | might be another sport where you want to control music
           | without taking your hands off the handlebars. A single button
           | (like tapping an earbud) that could be gently bit down on
           | could control song playback. Prior art for this type of
           | device would be something like this:
           | https://www.airturn.com/products/airturn-bite-switch-
           | remote-...
        
             | rqtwteye wrote:
             | It's very strange to me to listen to music while
             | snowboarding or cycling. Especially while cycling you need
             | a lot of situational awareness of what's going on around
             | you. I think it's very dangerous not to be able to hear
             | cars coming up from behind.
        
               | fragmede wrote:
               | in other parts of the world there are dedicated bike
               | trails in nature where there is no danger from cars
        
               | Ichthypresbyter wrote:
               | Replying to the reply- even in dedicated car-free
               | recreation areas, there are other people doing the same
               | thing as you but going faster.
        
             | fragmede wrote:
             | voice control is pretty convenient for those environments
        
       | Zenzero wrote:
       | What an incredible piece of technology. I'm very impressed.
        
         | tomasero wrote:
         | Thank you! We're just getting started :)
        
       | nashadelic wrote:
       | How did we not have this 10-15 years ago? It just feels like not
       | enough people work on, or care enough about assistive tech till
       | it impacts them personally.
        
         | cortensinger wrote:
         | Exactly. Its unfortunate that this is the way the world
         | works...but we hope that the MouthPad^ can change that tired
         | script! Universal design benefits us all, not just those at the
         | extremes -- we should all care. See the history of curb cuts on
         | our sidewalks as a small example.
        
           | fragmede wrote:
           | As someone who's not a quadriplegic, I want one of these.
        
         | spiritplumber wrote:
         | we did, there were at least 3 kickstarters (of which i ran one)
         | but not enough people were interested.
        
           | fragmede wrote:
           | that's so cool that you tried. how much did you spend on
           | advertising for your Kickstarter? I totally would have kicked
           | in if I'd heard about it.
        
         | jagged-chisel wrote:
         | I suspect it's a couple things. First, the skill gap - maybe
         | someone begins needing assistive tech and has no idea how to
         | start making. Second, perspective - as an able-bodied techy, I
         | lack the understanding of the problem to build the right thing.
         | Third, communication - can the one in need describe their need?
         | This really requires reflection, and maybe skill. And lastly:
         | money - how many of is can afford to work for months or years
         | on a project that doesn't (and likely won't) pay?
        
         | _spduchamp wrote:
         | I work in a lab at a university where I'm currently working on
         | building assistive music controls for disabled musicians. From
         | what I've seen in my short time here is it seems like a lot of
         | these kinds of projects don't often translate from the research
         | space into viable businesses. Also, due to the highly variable
         | physical and neurological characteristics, often assistive
         | devices will need specific customization, tuning, and support.
         | So these things also tend to be expensive.
        
       | amanzi wrote:
       | Fascinating. I started to instinctively "scroll" with my tongue
       | while reading the article - felt really intuitive.
        
         | flemhans wrote:
         | Tickles a bit. But the pad might help.
        
       | Fengjiao wrote:
       | where are you building them? How much does it cost to build?
        
       | b3lik3wat3r wrote:
       | wholesome content :')
       | x.com/augmentaltech/status/1798701297748902349
        
       | LoganDark wrote:
       | Oh hey, I remember this, signed up to beta test a year or so ago
       | and 6 months later got an email that said I was rejected for
       | being outside of California. I think at the time I found it weird
       | that it took them 6 months.
        
         | tomasero wrote:
         | Hi Logan, thanks for your comment, and apologies for the delay
         | in our response. We're a small company with limited resources,
         | so we've prioritized waitlist applications from those who
         | really need our solution and are close to us. We're working on
         | scaling our operations and hope to serve everyone in the US
         | soon. Stay tuned!
        
       | trailbits wrote:
       | I can imagine this helping anyone that has struggled with
       | computer-related overuse injuries. I had a bad case of tendinitis
       | that made using a mouse or trackpad very painful. I would have
       | loved to have this kind of device as another option.
        
         | moffkalast wrote:
         | I'm really wondering why nobody's selling a foot operated mouse
         | yet, it would be pretty practical even for normal people when
         | typing with both hands.
        
       | haunter wrote:
       | Wish brolylegs lived to see this :( He was using regular
       | controllers
       | 
       | On a side note MS has some neat stuff for disabled gamers, the
       | Adaptive Controller and they worked with Byowave on the upcoming
       | Proteus Controller
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       | https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/xbox-adap...
       | 
       | https://www.byowave.com/product/proteus-controller-early-bir...
        
       | mongol wrote:
       | Is there a site where such tools are listed? Some of these may
       | help people without disability too.
        
       | vasco wrote:
       | I would use this before any voice assistants our neurolinks.
        
         | tomasero wrote:
         | We're adding silent speech input and bone conduction audio
         | feedback to the next version of the MouthPad^.
        
       | brezelgoring wrote:
       | Not exactly related to disabled people, but a though crossed my
       | mind on how cluttered F1 pilot wheels are with buttons, I
       | imagined some F1 Engineer already thinking on how feature dense
       | these pads can get and how to integrate them into races.
       | 
       | Not related, I know.
        
       | vinceguidry wrote:
       | Aren't there already products that use eye tracking to locate
       | pointer clicks?
        
       | cromniomancer wrote:
       | Nice to get this before The Jackpot arrives!
        
       | geepytee wrote:
       | Interesting that he built this after getting closely familiar
       | with Neuralink
        
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