[HN Gopher] iOS 18 cracks down on apps asking for full address b...
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iOS 18 cracks down on apps asking for full address book access
Author : mfiguiere
Score : 46 points
Date : 2024-06-12 19:13 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| ratg13 wrote:
| More than just "growth hacking" apps.. if someone gets access to
| your contacts they can generally identify who you are just from
| this information alone.
|
| Data brokers have been harvesting this information for years.
|
| This is a huge step forward for data privacy.
| cantSpellSober wrote:
| Even just cynically, it doesn't even work:
|
| > _in many cases, that hack does not drive sustainable growth
| in the long term_
| WhackyIdeas wrote:
| Kind of. But they could have done this many moons ago. They
| didn't.
|
| In no way am I going to be duped that Apple suddenly give a
| damn about anything other than protecting their investment.
| bigyikes wrote:
| I love these crackdowns and increasingly granular permissions.
| They did a similar thing for photos a while back.
|
| I wish they'd crack down on advertisements in notifications.
| Sleazy players like Uber will spam you with ads, so you're forced
| to choose between receiving ads or missing out on actually
| important notifications.
|
| There's nothing better than getting buzzed for an advertisement
| which you can conveniently view on your lock screen!
| joshuaturner wrote:
| I think they used to have a rule about this but then their own
| apps started to violate it, so they loosened restrictions. What
| I'd really love to see is notification categories so you can
| choose which to accept.
| xnx wrote:
| Android has notification categories, but I think those end up
| getting abused too.
| joshuaturner wrote:
| I'm sure enforcement around it would be difficult but I'd
| imagine most major apps would fall in line if only because
| the risk of losing their notification entitlement would be
| too great.
| buffet_overflow wrote:
| I moved my primary phone from Android to iOS and this is
| hands down the thing I miss the most. I ended up silencing a
| lot of apps wholesale, mostly rideshares, as a result.
| drodgers wrote:
| I reckon Apple Intelligence will end up solving this problem -
| have it classify notifications and then give you control. That
| way, you're not reliant on ongoing good behaviour from
| developers.
| viraptor wrote:
| I'm not sure AI can do that reasonably well. Notification
| "Foo is available for sale now" - is that an ad? From the
| Uber app, yes. From the app explicitly used for tracking
| bargains, no. From the supermarket app, maybe, depends if I
| subscribed to that thing. There's a lot of context that
| automation will not understand.
| theshrike79 wrote:
| I'm pretty sure the SLM model can track which ones you
| interact with.
|
| The current iOS version already does this to a degree: if
| you use profiles. It notices if you often interact with an
| application during X profile and asks if you want to add it
| to that profile's allowed apps.
| Pesthuf wrote:
| This would probably be a good use case for "ai", to filter out
| notifications that are clearly ads.
| TheJoeMan wrote:
| Can't wait for the "AIO" (Apple Intelligence Optimization)
| engineers at Uber to find how to make notification ads
| surface higher.
| adiabatty wrote:
| I'm one of those types who only uses Uber every two or three
| years, so I just disable notifications for it. If a ride is
| coming, I'll just check my phone loads.
| joecool1029 wrote:
| It would seem to me that eventually Apple will have some kind of
| 'identity proxy' that apps will need to talk to in order to have
| an app send to a real contact. It can be overridden explicitly
| when needed by the end user but the default would be a sort of
| unique UID that changes over time. Think private relay/URL's but
| for identity.
| cassianoleal wrote:
| > Think private relay/URL's but for identity.
|
| More like Hide my Email [0].
|
| [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/105078
| reify wrote:
| I have always disliked any app that wants access to my contacts.
|
| While the rest of my friends do not repsect my privacy I do
| respect theirs.
|
| I use a seperate database that isolates my contacts so that no
| apps can have access.
|
| On android I use OpenContacts which does the same thing.
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| OpenContacts:
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| A different database for contacts to keep them private only to
| you.
|
| We should not be sharing our contact information online.
| chongli wrote:
| This is great but it feels like closing the barn door after the
| horses have already left. All the big social networks already
| know your address book! Would have loved this from the very
| beginning of the App Store.
| viraptor wrote:
| It will take ~5 years for the social media landscape to rotate
| again. The next "generation" will be protected at least.
| adiabatty wrote:
| I never said 'yes' to any of those prompts.
|
| If you did, why?
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