[HN Gopher] Banana giant held liable for funding paramilitaries
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       Banana giant held liable for funding paramilitaries
        
       Author : no_exit
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2024-06-11 14:58 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | thebeardisred wrote:
       | It's about time one of these Chiquita (ex United Fruit Company,
       | Cuyamel Fruit Company, and others) / Dole (ex Standard Fruit
       | Company) are held liable.
       | 
       | [1]:https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/food-drink/story-bananas-
       | ban...
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       | [2]:https://growjungles.com/united-fruit-company-in-costa-rica/
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       | [3]:https://www.biggerlifeadventures.com/chiquita-bananas-cia-
       | fu...
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       | [4]:https://history.wsu.edu/rci/sample-research-project/
       | 
       | Edit: formatting
        
       | tomcam wrote:
       | Offhand, I agree with the judgment. But I am also gratified that
       | the term "Banana giant" led off a Hacker News title. Surprisingly
       | it wasn't on my 2024 HN bingo card.
        
       | sofixa wrote:
       | I'm curious about why nobody from Chiquita went to prison for
       | financing a terrorist group.
       | 
       | Random Afghans and Iraqis were kidnapped for Guantanamo or
       | outright murdered for less.
        
         | zrn900 wrote:
         | White supremacy. The rules work differently for those who are
         | from the 'right' ethnosocial background. They work even more
         | differently for the rich ones among those...
        
         | hulitu wrote:
         | > I'm curious about why nobody from Chiquita went to prison for
         | financing a terrorist group.
         | 
         | That's not how democracy works. /s
         | 
         | Companies do not have to obey the law and, when they are
         | caught, nobody goes to jail. They just need to pay some
         | protection money.
         | 
         | Want to be a criminal without fear of prosecution ? Join a
         | company, preferably on a management position.
        
         | lazide wrote:
         | Because they were working in the vein of manifest destiny/US
         | gov't interests.
         | 
         | The CIA helped them, by overthrowing at least one gov't. [https
         | ://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%2527%...]
         | 
         | Money has always been a national interest for every gov't
         | everywhere.
        
         | jjk166 wrote:
         | This was a civil case, seeking damages for actions that
         | occurred over 2 decades ago, it's unlikely anyone currently
         | with the company was sufficiently high ranking then to be
         | considered personally responsible.
         | 
         | For the 2007 criminal case, the company came to the department
         | of justice and disclosed the payments, saying they had been
         | made under threat of violence. Specifically the AUC was
         | threatening physical harm to employees of a Chiquita subsidiary
         | in Columbia. The department of justice appears to have accepted
         | that the payments were made under duress, but did not recognize
         | that as a sufficient excuse, and decided to prosecute anyways.
         | The company reached a plea agreement.
         | 
         | Honestly, it seems like the justice department came down pretty
         | hard. Obviously giving money to terrorist groups under any
         | circumstances shortly after 9/11 would be highly scrutinized,
         | and the company could have dropped the columbian subsidiary,
         | which they wound up doing eventually anyways, instead of
         | continuing to pay the protection racket. But still it seems
         | like they were victims in this too.
        
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