[HN Gopher] macOS Sequoia Preview
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macOS Sequoia Preview
Author : davidbarker
Score : 206 points
Date : 2024-06-10 18:49 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| wwalexander wrote:
| I never thought I'd see the day macOS would get tiling window
| management. Wonder how it will interact with Stage Manager if at
| all.
| spike021 wrote:
| Yeah it looks like this will usurp Magnet for me, which I've
| used for years now.
| minimaxir wrote:
| The better question is why it took so long for Apple to copy
| Magnet.
| vladsanchez wrote:
| Because Apple is pure Snobbery! Period! They'll never admit
| to be behind imagineers.
|
| I've personally been infuriated by the absence of Send
| Later feature. I can't fathom that I could do it with a
| "stupid/inferior" Windows Phone that wasn't obscenely
| priced like an iPhone.
|
| They lost their technological leadership since Steve Jobs.
| End of Story.
| imbnwa wrote:
| Rectangle and Magnet devs not happy
| cassianoleal wrote:
| I still run f.lux even though macOS has native Night Shift.
| I run BetterDisplay even though I can change display
| settings natively. I run AppCleaner even though in theory I
| can uninstall an app by dragging it to the bin. I run
| Alfred even though Spotlight exists.
|
| I bet I'm gonna keep Rectangle as well.
| alejoar wrote:
| Now if they only would allow me to take the focused window to
| the next workspace without using the mouse.
| LogHouse wrote:
| I know it's simple but I am so pleased with this. Now if they
| fixed the mouse acceleration curve and the scaling issue for
| monitors, I'd be at peace.
| imbnwa wrote:
| What's the scaling issue?
| sunshowers wrote:
| Not GP, but macOS doesn't have fractional scaling, which
| means that running at non-integer scales is inefficient.
| For example:
|
| A 3840x2160 monitor run at 1x means a framebuffer of
| 3840x2160.
|
| At 2x, the effective resolution is 1920x1080, and this also
| uses a framebuffer of 3840x2160.
|
| At 1.5x, the effective resolution is 2560x1440. This is
| implemented by rendering at 4x (5160x2880) and then
| downscaling that.
|
| At 1.25x, the effective resolution is 3072x1728. This is
| also implemented by rendering at 4x (6144x3456) and
| downscaling that.
|
| The difference between all of these is quite noticeable.
|
| Edit: Apparently Apple has been shipping its laptops with
| non-integer scaling for a while, which is interesting.
| cmiller1 wrote:
| It's the only OS that offers a good acceleration curve for my
| trackballs, been dying with the lack of configuration for the
| curve under wayland :(
| freediver wrote:
| I use BetterSnapTool for ages and love it. Wondering if this
| will be good enough to replace it natively.
| mvanbaak wrote:
| This was exactly what I was thinking as well. Let's see!
| flenserboy wrote:
| It's great for those who want it, but I really hope it can be
| turned off just as with most of their recent UI additions, such
| as Stage Manager.
| zeusly wrote:
| I hope it supports thirds and not just 50/50 layouts.
| doublepg23 wrote:
| I think that'll require the crackpot team that made
| Calculator on iPad possible.
| mostlysimilar wrote:
| To be fair the new calculator app with its magic math
| writing is pretty dang cool.
| goosedragons wrote:
| Nebo has had essentially that for years, OneNote too.
| nico wrote:
| I use Moom for basic keyboard-based window management. Great
| for maximizing windows and quickly resizing them
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| Yes! I've been using Moom for I think over a decade now.
| Cannot recommend it highly enough.
| xyst wrote:
| the tiling is very basic though. reminds me of windows. i3/sway
| is superior, especially once you get it customized to your
| workflow.
| thfuran wrote:
| Really basic tiling would be a vast improvement over the
| pathetic current built-in window management.
| xlii wrote:
| 2 days ago I complained that Apple has stalled when it came to
| window management. I wonder if Tim Cook is reading HN ;)
| wiseowise wrote:
| Finally Windows and Linux fanatics will shut up.
| fckgw wrote:
| No they just switch from "Mac doesn't have X" to "Welcome to
| 20212 Mac"
| superjose wrote:
| TBH, we still need to see how it integrates with the
| keyboard.
|
| Ever since I've been using a Mac since Nov. 2023 that's been
| one of the things that I've battled with, and I've assigned a
| heck tons of shortcuts to make that happen.
| adamomada wrote:
| Wouldn't it be like everything else, default keyboard
| shortcuts that can be easily overridden? Personally I hope
| they go with rectangle's CTRL+OPT just because it's seared
| into my muscle memory now
| nobleach wrote:
| It's frustrating at best. On any tiling WM on Linux, I can
| hit Meta+<#> and be taken to that workspace.
|
| On macOS, the moment I fullscreen an app, it's taken out of
| that flow. So for so many years, I've had my terminal full
| screen on workspace 2. Meta+2 it in my muscle memory for
| "go to terminal".
| mmcnl wrote:
| Why the fanboyism? It's not a tournament. Let's embrace
| competition and enjoy that it brings the best out of each OS.
| gnatman wrote:
| I installed Rectangle about 4 hours ago based on another
| thread! Tim Apple knows all.
| mortenjorck wrote:
| I'm honestly surprised and disappointed that all they appear to
| have done is Sherlock Rectangle.
|
| Stage Manager was the most interesting and useful thing to
| happen to window management in over a decade, and I was really
| hoping we'd see Apple do more with it. Its dynamic nature
| (windows don't always live in just a single context!) solved a
| lot of problems inherent in Spaces, and yet there's still
| plenty of room to build on its foundation.
|
| I was hoping we'd at least see the window snapping behavior
| ported over from iPadOS. It's a really well-thought-out way to
| simplify window resizing and overlapping, and it would go a
| long way on MacOS (perhaps with a toggle in Control Center for
| those edge cases where you actually want pixel precision).
| Maybe in MacOS 16...
| thiht wrote:
| > Stage Manager was the most interesting and useful thing to
| happen to window management in over a decade
|
| ... really? I've tried to use it a few times but it's just...
| not good. Not very intuitive, full of idiosyncrasies, and it
| doesn't solve the basic "I want to snap 2 windows side by
| side" problem. Maybe it's more interesting on iPad?
|
| I'm glad they finally bring window snapping to Mac.
| cjk2 wrote:
| it's bloody terrible on the ipad too.
|
| I tried it with my studio display for a day and it was like
| wrestling a raccoon all fucking day.
| cassianoleal wrote:
| I disabled Stage Manager after trying it out for a week or
| so. How the hell does that thing make any sense? Really, this
| is a legit question. How is that thing useful?
| thiht wrote:
| FINALLY! I really didn't it to come to Mac, ever.
|
| Now so just need a clipboard history manager, a way to make
| cmd+tab behave like Windows alt+tab, a way to mute the mic in
| the status bar, and a different setting for the trackpad/mouse
| wheel direction, and I won't need to install random apps for
| basic features anymore.
| pxc wrote:
| don't forget per-app volume control, linear scroll wheel
| speed, some reasonable way to manage menu bar icons and
| ensure all can actually be accesses and used, a way to
| prevent the system from going to sleep (the built-in
| `caffeinate` command hasn't worked for years!), and searching
| through open windows by typing!
| mmcnl wrote:
| No mention of Stage Manager at all if I'm correct? Seems like
| Apple is quietly abandoning that path.
| karmakaze wrote:
| I never really understood the appeal of tiling window managers.
| I've gotten used to having overlapping windows with appropriate
| parts peek out out behind others. e.g. tail of a log behind an
| editor running a program, and I can bring it to the foreground
| to see older lines and/or scroll. To do the same with a tiling
| manager, I would zoom the logging pane. I suppose I just prefer
| less layout changes. Same for Slack, I have just enough peeping
| out to know there's some messages but I can't see the message
| text so I can ignore them until I'm ready.
|
| Are there situations that make more sense to use a tiling
| manager like on larger (where all the tiles are usable) or
| smaller screens (where full expansion makes sense)?
| harshaxnim wrote:
| With tiling managers you can do all you just listed + quick
| snapping. Who would say no to that?
| jwells89 wrote:
| The WM being tiling-dominant doesn't really make sense if
| one only ever tiles the odd window every now and then. In
| that situation it makes more sense to use a floating-
| dominant WM with light tiling features (like that of
| Windows, most major Linux DEs, and now macOS).
| sircastor wrote:
| I generally agree with you. I use my Mac with most of the
| windows overlapped most of the time. But occasionally I need
| them side-by-side to do some work. Typically referencing
| documents or code. Fortunately the introduction of this looks
| to just be an optional feature rather than a dictated "way
| things are".
|
| An overlapped/stacked interface is fine a lot of the time,
| but the flexibility is important.
|
| What really drives me crazy is the 100% tiled-interface. I
| feel like something important is just below the tiles, but I
| can't see it.
| pxc wrote:
| You still haven't seen that day, have you? macOS still offers
| only a floating window manager, now with some window snapping
| capabilities. But there is no mode or window manager built into
| macOS where new windows are arranged in tiles spanning the
| whole screen by default.
| vladsanchez wrote:
| Been a happy Magnet user for long time! Nothing remarkable in
| this OS that hasn't been seen yet elsewhere. No innovation,
| only #MeToo features.
|
| It took them a decade to release a "Send Later" feature? How's
| that for innovation? Snobs!
| minimaxir wrote:
| The iPhone Mirroring was the most interesting announcement (and I
| don't think was leaked).
|
| I suspect it will only be useful for emergencies as latency will
| be terrible, though.
| k8sToGo wrote:
| With WiFi 6e latency should be ok.
| tsujamin wrote:
| Sidecar/display mirroring from my macbook to my ipad is pretty
| low latency, so presumably this will be based on a similar
| technology stack
| gfaure wrote:
| This is occasionally quite useful. A few weeks ago, my phone's
| display went haywire, and the only way I could operate it to
| secure a backup was through the somewhat hidden mirroring
| functionality via QuickTime screen recording.
| eddieroger wrote:
| > as latency will be terrible, though
|
| Based on what? AirPlay mirroring is great today, and this is
| that with data in the other direction. Current Wifi is
| perfectly capable of bidirectional voice and video. Adding
| touch/key events is incremental.
| fragmede wrote:
| Yeah, I use my AppleTV As a monitor for my laptop all the
| time via Airplay mirroring and it's fine.
| Toutouxc wrote:
| Same, I do this regularly when my wife's using my desk, the
| latency is a bit like cloud gaming - it's there for
| competitive Counter Strike, it isn't there for coding or
| browsing.
| minimaxir wrote:
| "Terrible" might be an exaggeration, but even in my personal
| uncongested network the feed can get randomly choppy from
| wireless AirPlay mirroring.
| ThomasBb wrote:
| That might be a sign of excessive congestion on the channel
| used for Airplay. Esp with device to device direct link,
| latency should be minimal. If you can, try moving nearby
| AP's off the AirPlay channels for your region. For the US:
| "If possible, avoid using Wi-Fi channels 149 and 153 in
| rooms where peer-to-peer AirPlay is frequently in use"
| doublepg23 wrote:
| Wow, that might be why AirPlay always gave me issues.
| I've been on channel 153 for 5GHz forever. Thanks!
| wwalexander wrote:
| This used to exist via QuickTime, but I wasn't able to get it
| working recently.
|
| > I suspect it will only be useful for emergencies as latency
| will be terrible, though.
|
| If they can make the macOS display feature in visionOS usable,
| I imagine they can make this work too.
| navanchauhan wrote:
| I thought you could only do screen recording via QuickTime
| This mirroring feature actually lets you interact with the
| phone
| wwalexander wrote:
| I think you're right about that!
| dereg wrote:
| Can't wait to attempt GUI automation on my iPhone using the
| mac.
| sleepybrett wrote:
| I hoping my mom can share their phone with their laptop and i
| can sreenshare into her laptop to troubleshoot her phone.
|
| Also I will use this often to approve okta 2factor requests.
| crummy wrote:
| Oh shit - that's a great point, this will make remote tech
| support a lot better
| djxfade wrote:
| You can already remote control an iPhone through FaceTime I
| think
| jayd16 wrote:
| Why? It's not like remote desktop tech is new or anything.
| m463 wrote:
| apple's mac to mac remote desktop is quite good.
| xyst wrote:
| Wasn't this always possible though? Apple just turned what was
| once a development feature (Xcode) into a mainstream feature.
| drewg123 wrote:
| I'd like to use it for watching Netflix/Hulu/etc on a plane on
| a larger screen than my phone without being forced to carry an
| iPad.
|
| I really wish Apple would just force companies to enable their
| iPhone/iPad apps on Apple Silicon. But if I could display a
| video from my phone onto my 15" laptop screen, that would be a
| nearly as nice.
| ttul wrote:
| Apple would not be releasing iPhone mirroring if the latency
| were terrible. If they had a low bar for latency, they'd have
| released iPhone mirroring ten years ago. Apple's Human
| Interface Guidelines do not specify an exact maximum number of
| milliseconds for interface latency. However, they emphasize the
| importance of responsiveness and recommend that any user
| interface should feel instantaneous and fluid to create a
| positive user experience. The general goal is to keep latency
| as low as possible to ensure interactions feel immediate and
| natural.
| pazimzadeh wrote:
| this is needed on Vision Pro
| cassianoleal wrote:
| Goodbye having to lift my phone to use crappy enterprise MFA
| solutions.
| Detrytus wrote:
| The only use case for iPhone Mirroring I can think of is online
| shopping, when I'm trying to finalize transaction on my Mac,
| but then realize that I have to login to my banking app to
| confirm payment, and my iPhone is in another room... I guess
| you can call that "an emergency".
|
| And of course, there are all those MFA apps which I need for
| work...
| pmx wrote:
| I have high hopes for the background replacement tech, the
| segmentation built into teams isn't very good.
| minimaxir wrote:
| The demo they showed used the iPhone Continuity Camera, which
| has depth information and already does a great job of
| segmentation as it's required for the Portrait and Studio Light
| effects.
|
| I suspect quality will be worse on a typical Mac FaceTime
| camera.
| xenonite wrote:
| Good point, but not for details: I doubt that the depth
| information is of much help for separating hairs from the
| background.
| viraptor wrote:
| You can always use your own removal with OBS. There's a plugin
| for automatic background removal and you can re-export the
| video as a virtual camera that any other app can use.
| corytheboyd wrote:
| I'd love to have a proper window organizer with keyboard
| shortcuts built into the OS, one less thing to have to install on
| the side. Hopefully it's fast, with no annoying flair.
| sleepybrett wrote:
| I'll probably still use phoenix since I can code it to do
| whatever I want. https://github.com/kasper/phoenix
| kalb_almas wrote:
| Dude thank you SO MUCH for sharing this. I use Rectangle to
| tile windows and I've been looking for a way to switch
| between windows based on their position on my screen rather
| than their type for probably about a year now.
| AnonC wrote:
| The iPhone mirroring feature and the related feature of being
| able to control the screen on another person's device is going to
| be quite helpful, personally speaking. But the screen control
| feature can also be a threat that scammers could convince someone
| to allow and then defraud them. I'll be looking forward to try
| this out and see how (well) it works.
| UniverseHacker wrote:
| I don't think scammers will be able to exploit the control
| feature, as you will most likely need to have two apple devices
| in close physical proximity.
| adamors wrote:
| Should have called it Sherlock as they seem to be Sherlocking a
| lot of apps. For instance I only use Fantastical because I can
| see my reminders with my events, I assume many people will also
| switch from a paid password manager to this as well.
| akagr wrote:
| I don't see myself switching from 1password simply because I
| don't think Apple passwords autofill will work natively with
| non-safari browsers or Linux, both of which I also use. Also, I
| find the handy 1password mini source pretty convenient.
| macintux wrote:
| I haven't determined yet whether the new Passwords app will
| support my killer feature for 1Password: non-password-stuff.
|
| I keep family members' social security numbers, security
| questions and answers, passport numbers, etc in there, and I
| don't want to split that data between a passwords app &
| secure notes.
| shepherdjerred wrote:
| Yes, it's so nice to keep random info in 1Password. I keep
| my VIN/license plate, software licenses, API tokens,
| drivers license info w/ pictures, insurance cards, etc.
| ssbash wrote:
| Other browsers could add support for the native macOS
| password autofill apis (introduced back in 2020 in macOS Big
| Sur). So far both Chrome[1] and Firefox[2] have refused to
| add support.
|
| [1] https://issues.chromium.org/issues/40744291#comment15
|
| [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1650212
| FireBeyond wrote:
| That exchange with Vas (on the Chrome side) was more than a
| little frustrating.
|
| "Chrome isn't just an App, it's a password provider. We're
| not throwing that away for Apple."
|
| I don't think that was anyone's intention. But he locked
| into a single use case that was a straw man. "I can
| understand how some users might want that. That's not a
| priority for us."
| djxfade wrote:
| It already works for Chrome. Apple has an official extension.
| However, it's a bit annoying since you need to authenticate
| each new browser session with MFA
| amelius wrote:
| Isn't it illegal to push your own products by bundling them
| with other products?
| adamors wrote:
| Well Apple has been doing this since forever
|
| > Watson became very popular, and stayed that way right until
| Apple released Mac OS X 10.2 with Sherlock 3. In that
| release, Apple added just about everything Watson could do to
| Sherlock's own interface.
| bn-l wrote:
| Yeah I think that's what MS was doing before one of their
| antitrust lawsuits.
| macintux wrote:
| That can result in anti-trust action if you have a monopoly,
| which isn't true for Apple in the U.S. The EU has different
| rules which I don't pretend to understand.
| WillPostForFood wrote:
| It is not illegal to push your own products by bundling them
| with other products. Both MacOS and Windows have dozens or
| hundreds of their own bundled products.
| mpalmer wrote:
| They're not even charging for these things, what's the
| objection exactly?
| runako wrote:
| Isn't the Passwords app essentially just existing features of
| the OSes extracted into an app? Or does it add new capabilities
| as well (other than obviously the Windows app)?
| jerbear4328 wrote:
| The Windows app already existed, actually, as part of iCloud
| for Windows. It uses a Chrome extension for autofill.
| https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud-windows/set-up-
| icloud...
| agent86 wrote:
| Math Notes certainly appears to be moving into Soulver/Numi
| territory. I'm a bit surprised by this one as while I
| personally love Soulver I didn't know how appealing it would be
| to Apple's overall user base.
| JZL003 wrote:
| I was going to say too, I love literate-calc in org mode but
| it's all pretty niche and not a well developed set of
| sofwtare https://github.com/sulami/literate-calc-mode.el
| twixfel wrote:
| Honestly, I support it. I got burnt by Tijme Gommers selling
| Raivo to someone shady and getting all my passwords locked
| behind a subscription (and subsequently lost). I don't want to
| have to check once a day to see if my TOTP app has been sold to
| some guy in Morocco and my passwords monetised.
| freediver wrote:
| A cool tidbit shown in one of the screenshots is that Apple Pay
| will be unlocked to other browsers. It is not clear whether they
| will need to be running WebKit or not for this to work, but
| looking forward to support in Orion.
| lxgr wrote:
| Given that all relevant browsers on macOS either bring their
| own WebKit build or run another engine, system-WebKit only
| would be close to false advertising, so I really hope it's not.
|
| I'm really looking forward to this - big fan of Apple Pay, but
| I'm not switching to Safari and rebuilding my shopping cart for
| non-logged-in purchases, and that's where it's arguably most
| useful.
| xenospn wrote:
| I've been wishing for iPhone notifications on my Mac for the
| longest time!
| dmitshur wrote:
| I wonder if it'll do anything about duplicate notifications. As
| a basic example, the Weather app exists both on iOS (and
| iPadOS) and macOS, so if it's enabled, would you get duplicate
| notifications on macOS?
| xenospn wrote:
| I could always use more reminders that it's going to rain in
| 13 minutes
| Cthulhu_ wrote:
| I really need to unfuck my notifications; I'm getting them
| from Chrome (Google Calendar), Office (work calendar), and
| MacOS calendar (where I have a copy of all of them). Should
| unify that stuff.
|
| Oh, and I get more notifications on my other laptop which has
| some similar calendars.
|
| And my phone, too.
| autoexecbat wrote:
| Just waiting for yet more of "Apple Arcade Free For 3 Months"
| style notifications
| srott wrote:
| I wish they'd have an LTS version, I'm in constant fear of what
| will go wrong next...
| cyclecount wrote:
| Every release is an LTS version, with support for about 8
| years.
|
| The current stable release of macOS (10.14 Sonoma) supports all
| Macs introduced in 2017 and later.
| luuurker wrote:
| Older macOS versions don't receive all security fixes, so
| while you'll receive security updates from time to time, the
| OS isn't fully patched. It's a bit different from, say,
| Ubuntu LTS.
| rafaelturk wrote:
| You still receive security updates for all manjor MacOSes, so
| albeit lack of proper naming you can assume each new release as
| LTS.
| luuurker wrote:
| Small, but important detail: you receive _some_ security
| updates, not all. Same with iOS.
| alberth wrote:
| Tech Debt
|
| Wow, those are a lot of features being added (even if it's
| largely userland).
|
| I can't even imagine the amount of tech debt for an OS that's
| 23-years old (and older if you count NextStep).
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS
| Cthulhu_ wrote:
| First off, you don't need to title your comments. That said,
| just because a codebase is old doesn't mean it has a lot of
| tech debt; that's down to maintenance, discipline, and setting
| priorities. There was a blogger which kept tabs on what Apple's
| iOS (apps?) were being written in, showing a steady migration
| towards Swift, which tells me they're not just letting code sit
| and rot.
| xnx wrote:
| I'm very productive in Windows, but Microsoft's recent behavior
| (jamming Windows full of Edge dark patterns and ads) and the
| improvement of window management in macOS tempts me to give it
| another try.
| htk wrote:
| I know your situation very well, I still develop a lot on
| Windows, but my main computer is a Mac. I find the hardware
| amazing, and the software a joy to use.
|
| Windows 11 is behaving more and more like the viruses and
| adwares I spent so many years defending against.
| lawlessone wrote:
| I just switched to Kubuntu.
|
| Everything I want/need including games via steam run perfectly
| on it now. I can't see a reason to return to MS or got to
| Apple.
| spankalee wrote:
| I wonder - if you're not an iPhone user, will Macs soon just not
| really be for you anymore? I don't care about iPhone integration,
| Siri, or Apple's AI.
| buzzerbetrayed wrote:
| Your Mac being able to control an iPhone somehow makes it worse
| for you if you don't have an iPhone? And what do Siri and Apple
| AI have to do with iPhone other than them also being on iPhone
| in addition to Mac?
| Toutouxc wrote:
| You don't have to be an iPhone user to use the AI or Siri. And
| it's not like they're taking non-integration features away --
| if you're happy with the current version, you'll probably be
| happy with the next one, won't you?
|
| I mean, I get the sentiment, macOS releases have gotten a bit
| more exciting since I got an iPad and an iPhone, but macOS is a
| perfectly good OS even without the iDevices.
| nottorp wrote:
| TBH i have both Macs and iPhones and not only I don't use any
| integration options (with the exception of reading and sending
| text messages from my laptop) but I'm pretty sure I don't even
| know about 90% of them.
| etherlord wrote:
| Man I hope they expose the tiling functionality so software like
| Yabai can hook in and make it automatic.
| nostrademons wrote:
| I wonder how the "seamlessly drag and drop files, photos, and
| videos between your iPhone and Mac" will work. Right now, if you
| just want to grab the raw files of your photos and videos and not
| deal with the Photos app, your best bet is Image Capture, a 20+
| year old seemingly unmaintained program that seems to glitch out
| disturbingly frequently. I really hope they can introduce
| something that seamlessly lets you drag photos off your phone and
| into your filesystem, just in the Finder.
| magnio wrote:
| I thought that's what AirDrop is for? Even Android can drag and
| drop files to Windows.
| crazygringo wrote:
| That's exactly what AirDrop is for. I think the commenter
| must just not know about it?
| nottorp wrote:
| Neither do I. And I've been using macs and iOS devices for
| a while.
|
| You're saying that if i select AirDrop I can send photos
| from my phone directly to my mac's file system?
|
| No Photos app or iCloud drive shenanigans?
| EricE wrote:
| Yup. Just try it!
| nottorp wrote:
| I always thought it's some Nintendo like thing for
| exchanging emojis and little computer people :)
| nostrademons wrote:
| I know about AirDrop. I use it for small batches (< 10) of
| photos.
|
| It fails completely for my use case, which is that every 6
| months or so, I want to back up the 2000 or so pictures
| I've taken to a Samba share on a home server that I
| control. The closest equivalent would be iCloud, but I
| refuse to mortgage my family memories to vendor lock-in for
| a monthly fee.
| pubutil wrote:
| Have you tried using the Files app for image/file
| transfers? You can add Samba (and other) shares in there
| by tapping the '...' in the upper-right corner, hitting
| 'Connect to Server', then inputting your local server's
| address and connecting. I use this not just for photos,
| but for transferring various files and docs to/from my
| phone/home server.
|
| You mentioned not wanting to mass-select 2000+ photos. If
| the photos you're uploading fall within a certain date
| range, you can open the Photos app, search for the date
| range of photos you want to upload (e.g. "April 20 2024
| to today", or "sept 21 2018 to mar 2020"). It'll return
| photos taken in that date range, where you can tap 'See
| All', then 'Select' > 'Select All' at the top of the
| screen. Then you can hit the 'Share' dialogue and upload
| to your server through Files without having to scroll and
| select tons of individual pics. Keep in mind that you
| can't use a '-' in place of the word 'to' when specifying
| a date range for some reason.
|
| If your images are family memories, you might be
| interested in Immich[1] (if you're open to making changes
| to your photo storage setup). Stand up and configure the
| local server, install the smartphone app, enable
| automatic sync, and it'll automatically upload new photos
| from your phone when you open the Immich app. No need for
| you to manually keep track of your photo syncs. Built to
| be a local Google Photos replacement. Has features like
| shared albums, face recognition/person naming, smart
| search, etc. AI tasks, like everything else, are done
| entirely locally. It's a nice piece of software, and lots
| of people (including privacy advocate Louis Rossmann)
| vouch for it.
|
| [1] https://immich.app/
| nostrademons wrote:
| Where's "Select All" after "Select"? I'm not seeing that
| option (either on a search result or the "All Photos"
| collection), it'd solve a bunch of my problems. Thanks
| for the tip on Files, it seems like that's a nice
| alternative to AirDrop that's even more direct.
| lucianbr wrote:
| What do you mean from Android to Windows? How exactly can
| that happen? I have an android phone in my hand now and a
| windows desktop in front, and no clue how to even begin this
| drag and drop operation. Where would I even start dragging in
| Android?
| nostrademons wrote:
| Plug it in via USB, and then most Android devices show up
| as USB sticks within Windows Explorer. You can access the
| filesystem the same way you'd access any external media,
| and drag & drop photos over.
|
| Apple, however, in their infinite wisdom made MacOS pop
| open iTunes when you connect an iPhone as a USB device. You
| can "import" them into Photos (another Apple walled
| garden), but they don't show up as a filesystem, and you
| can't use normal filesystem operations or terminal commands
| to move them over.
| k3nx wrote:
| I know it's not ideal, but if you have iCloud disabled in
| Photos.app, use that to download photos from your phone
| to Photos.app, then in Photos.app, select all, and export
| to your chosen location, then delete from Photos.app. I
| know it's a few more steps, but this might make it easier
| than selecting 10+ files to AirDrop. There might be a way
| to automate that with the shortcuts app. I haven't looked
| yet. I hope this doesn't come across as "you're holding
| it wrong", that wasn't my intent.
| dsego wrote:
| I frequently just airdrop stuff between my iphone and mac,
| that's the best thing coming from android, that and pasting
| text between devices, eg iban, passwords, etc.
| marricks wrote:
| Right? Airdrop "just works" and so does copy paste between
| devices.
|
| If this is a better AirDrop I'm all here for it. AirDrop was
| already leaps and bounds better than email my android phone
| to my PC.
| jcynix wrote:
| You can rsync over ssh from and to Android devices, if you
| install Termux (Linux in an app).
|
| And SolidExplorer is a good app to transfer data from/to
| Android.
|
| I'm a long time Mac user, but I really dislike Apple's
| walled garden on the iPhone and thus switched to Android
| some years ago.
| ttul wrote:
| AirDrop is great in theory, but in practice 80% of the time I
| try to send a photo to my partner using AirDrop, it simply
| fails to bring up a notification on her devices. In my
| experience, Apple often delivers well much of the time, but
| will allow mysterious bugs like this to pervade a feature for
| years without finding a fix despite much discussion in their
| customer forums. I wish they did a better job of fixing such
| problems.
| justinator wrote:
| 80% of those 20% of the times it doesn't work, it's just
| because the receiver's phone either doesn't have Bluetooth
| turned on, or it just isn't unlocked.
| ttul wrote:
| And the remaining 20%... total mystery.
| jmugan wrote:
| I even have the same problem from me to me. My phone to my
| mac. Bluetooth and all that is on.
| nostrademons wrote:
| I want the source list to be the Finder on my Mac, not "All
| Photos" on the iPhone. I frequently have 2000+ photos to
| bring over at once; I hate dragging through all of them to
| select them, with one mis-touch resetting the selection. I've
| also found AirDrop to be very unreliable at that scale (does
| it even work? I've never used it for more than ~a dozen
| items), and want reliable file transfer functionality that
| can pick up where it left off if it gets interrupted.
| nox101 wrote:
| Use the MacOS Image Capture app (built in)
| talldayo wrote:
| I use KDE Connect to do the same thing across Android, Mac
| and Windows: https://kdeconnect.kde.org/
|
| Well worth checking out.
| StrLght wrote:
| It's already been working for quite some time: shared clipboard
| on iOS and macOS has supported photos and videos since more
| than 2 years ago. I'd expect drag-and-drop works the same way.
| nostrademons wrote:
| Like I mentioned in another comment, I've got 2000+ photos to
| dump onto an external hard drive (Samba share technically,
| but I can always move from local disk to SMB easily). I'm not
| going to cut & paste 2000 photos individually. Hell, I don't
| even want to select 2000 photos for a batch operation.
| amarshall wrote:
| Drag and dropping photos and other files from iPhone (plugged
| via USB) works well on Linux in the file browser. Too bad it
| seems Apple can't figure it out on their own OS, though maybe
| they have now.
| thih9 wrote:
| > iPhone notifications on Mac
|
| I was hoping for improvements to iPhone's notifications, not have
| them expand to other devices.
|
| I'm quite happy with all the social media notifications being
| confined to a single device; I can pick it up and check it when I
| want to, or put it away and ignore for a while. I know Apple
| wants me to set some sort of focus / do not disturb, but managing
| that seems too complex when the analog "put the phone away"
| works.
| djhworld wrote:
| The iPhone mirroring looked interesting, I'm not sure why I would
| use it but it might come in handy in a pinch.
|
| One thing not clear in the presentation (or maybe I missed it)
| was how this feature works when apps ask for FaceID, e.g. finance
| apps. Presumably either they fail, or fallback to some other
| authentication means e.g. passcode.
| nofunsir wrote:
| Wish I could use Safari with uBO, so that I could use Safari.
| Tired of feature fragmentation in 3rd party software, but equally
| tired of ostensible limitations in 1st party software that try to
| control and prevent every single edge case use in the name of
| "uSeR ExPeRiEnCe".
|
| EDIT: I'd like to add the following, in case any Safari team
| members come across this in the wake of today's keynote. I remain
| utterly disgusted by things like:
|
| - hiding the full url by default
|
| - force hiding the full url on certain ($) search engine sites
|
| - force injecting 'client=safari' into my urls for ($)
|
| - {google, yahoo, bing, duckduckgo, ecosia}
|
| - inability to specify custom search engines and their urls
|
| - removal of RSS reader (still salty)
| doublepg23 wrote:
| I quite like the Wipr "Content Blocker". It's paid, but at
| least that's incentive to continue working on something a
| dreadful as ad-block.
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| Safari has issues with audio pitch correction on sped up
| videos.
| runjake wrote:
| If anyone is wondering why uBlock Origin is no longer available
| for Safari, since version 13, see:
|
| https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/1123#is...
|
| And for watching Safari status ongoing:
|
| https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/issues/52
| nofunsir wrote:
| Yes. But,
|
| "... if ever there is a port to Safari, that will be MV3 uBO
| Lite, not uBO, which requires MV2." --gorhill
| nottorp wrote:
| It's not available because Apple don't want to allow it.
| Hence I use Firefox.
| carlosjobim wrote:
| NextDNS solves ads. Anything super special you can use the
| Stopthemadness plugin.
| strunz wrote:
| I don't believe either of those block YouTube ads on Safari
| ngai_aku wrote:
| StopTheMadness can automatically fast-forward YouTube ads
| which produces effectively the same result
|
| https://underpassapp.com/news/2023-10-19.html
| nofunsir wrote:
| uBO isn't just about ads, and the mechanisms Stopthemadness
| uses should be readily available to me without having to
| install an app-store blessed plugin, for monies.
| carlosjobim wrote:
| > ...should be readily available to me without having to...
|
| Are you chairman of the central committee? You write as if
| your word was law.
| rzzzt wrote:
| Orion uses WebKit and also lets you access extensions like uBO.
| nofunsir wrote:
| I don't really care what engine is used. Bad javascript
| between sites raises the noise floor above browser/engine
| speed differences, and ads and trackers do the same wrt site
| functionality.
|
| I want Safari for the OS integrations and cleanliness. I need
| Firefox for manifest v2 and UI customization.
| skydhash wrote:
| The only thing I would add is enabling javascript per tab. And
| remote fonts. This is my most used feature on UBO. The web is
| finally snappy again.
| ilikehurdles wrote:
| First time in recent memory that I've been totally blown away
| with a macOS announcement. I'm excited for a majority of the
| features here. Maps, tiling, smart reader, info extraction.
| Yaggo wrote:
| Still no re-nameable virtual desktops? Bummer.
| cjk2 wrote:
| Err we already have that in Sonoma. Press F3 and move the mouse
| to the top of the screen.
|
| You can even switch between them with a triple swipe on a magic
| trackpad...
| aldonius wrote:
| If you can _rename_ desktops though, I've never seen how.
|
| e.g. in Mission Control right now I have "Desktop 1",
| "Desktop 2", and full-screened iTerm2 on my external monitor,
| plus "Desktop 3" and about 6 other fullscreen apps on my
| laptop.
|
| I have somewhat semantic meaning for what each of those three
| numbered desktops are, but it'd be nice to _name_ them.
| bsimpson wrote:
| My corp desktop is an iMac Pro (2018). For a long time, it was
| the best way to get a Retina-quality desktop without getting into
| VFX budgets. It was also in that weird period in Apple's product
| calendar when the one-and-done trash can was obsolete, but its
| replacement hadn't been released. Work usually issues whatever
| panels they can buy in bulk from overseas, but for a magical
| window, we could get a nice screen with no shenanigans by
| ordering an iMac Pro.
|
| My heart dropped for a second when I saw Sequoia only supports
| iMacs from 2019, until I saw it supports iMac Pros from 2017. I
| wonder how much longer I have before Apple stops releasing
| updates, and corp IT decides the iMac Pro is now e-waste.
|
| It's really unfortunate that they don't do Target Display Mode
| anymore. These iMacs have panels that are still top-of-the-line 6
| years later. (A Studio Display is basically an iMac Pro with
| Apple Silicon in Target Display Mode.) I wonder if there will be
| a Linux distribution to convert these things into monitors when
| they go obsolete.
| ryandrake wrote:
| I've got so much perfectly-working e-waste from Apple. It's so
| sad. I'm on a Late 2014 Mac mini that's stuck on Monterey macOS
| 12 and a Late 2014 retina iMac that's stuck on Big Sur macOS
| 11(!!) An iPhone7 that's stuck on iOS15. The display on that
| iMac is still IMO second to none. These computers do everything
| I need, yet their software support is stuck back in time. And
| 3rd party developers are terrible about supporting previous
| version of macOS. They alway seem to assume you are running the
| latest and greatest, and deliberately remove support for
| earlier OSs.
|
| Hell, I have an O.G. iPad 1 that still works perfectly as it
| did the day I bought it, but most of the built-in software no
| longer works, and the App Store is basically empty. What a sad
| state of affairs.
| EricE wrote:
| Your not stuck (the Mac's at least)
| https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/
| Eric_WVGG wrote:
| > top of the line panels
|
| A few different people have figured out how to convert these
| panels into stand-alone displays. It's a pity that it would be
| impractical to make a small business out of this.
|
| - https://ohmypizza.com/2023/04/converting-a-5k-imac-into-
| an-e... - https://mschmitt.org/blog/convert-5k-27-imac-
| external-displa...
| bsimpson wrote:
| Thanks for the tips!
|
| Wild that a hobby project I've never heard of has a whole
| outfit in China supporting it: http://chiyakeji.com/
|
| I wonder if I'll be able to expense one of those when/if
| Apple finally deprecates the iMac Pro on my desk.
| hcarvalhoalves wrote:
| Apple is now imposing the same iOS obsolescence program to
| MacBook/iMac. That's how you make easy money nowadays.
| dev_daftly wrote:
| I would love it if I could have different natural scrolling
| settings for mouse and trackpad, but that's apparently too much
| to ask for despite it being supported by every other os.
| lawlessone wrote:
| So is this as problematic as Co-pilot / Recall?
| lxgr wrote:
| iPhone mirroring sounds great from a usability point of view, but
| I wonder if this will enable new types of scams.
|
| Many people use their phone as a second authentication factor
| these days via TOTPs etc., the assumption there being that
| somebody with access to your computer can't get to it.
|
| This kind of invalidates that, which could be a problem when
| screen sharing to tech support scammers.
| mrpippy wrote:
| Rosetta now supports AVX2, this is a big deal for running Windows
| games in CrossOver/Wine
| ksec wrote:
| macOS Sequoia update is interesting. It has been at least 5 - 6
| years I felt macOS had some useful upgrade. But It is also
| arguably the smallest OS update in terms of number of new
| features sans Apple Intelligence. Most of the time macOS update
| talks about features that I have no idea who are they aiming for,
| or it felt more like certain people had to get new features in
| every macOS update for the sake of it. This time around most of
| them very small but useful additions.
|
| iPhone Mirroring and Notification. No longer do I have to find my
| phone when I am at home sitting in front of my Mac just to check
| on notification. I could also enjoy most of my iPhone Apps and
| even some gaming without leaving my Mac. Making the Mac an
| extension of my iPhone. Very handy and useful. Something I wanted
| a very long time but thought Apple wouldn't do it.
|
| Seamless drag and drop between devices - Probably need more
| testing, but AirDrop isn't reliable for doing massive amount of
| Files between iPhone and Mac. And again transferring files from
| Mac to an iPhone Apps no longer requires 5+ tedious steps.
|
| Control over web video - Semi-Full Screen Video and the important
| thing here is "system playback controls". Some of the online
| video controls are just awful.
|
| Notes - It does 90% of what I need from Soulver. I guess unit
| conversion won't be as good. And the Collapsible sections meant
| another note taking app of mine wont be needed.
|
| Unfortunately Safari doesn't seems to get much update. It is
| still the worst browser for Tab Heavy Users. And their world
| fastest browser tagline for so many years is annoying because it
| is clearly very specific to limited cases. Both Chrome and Recent
| Firefox are simply faster.
|
| Apart from Safari, my current major annoyance, unless there are
| some new problems from Sequoia, I am not even sure what is
| missing from macOS. At least right now it does seems macOS, in my
| view is 99% complete.
|
| The only Apps [1] I will need installing as I wrote a few months
| ago are;
|
| IINA - Media Player
|
| QuickLook Video - Adds non-quicktime supported Video to Finder
| Preview.
|
| Unarchiver or Keka - RAR or Zip files.
|
| Little Snitch Mini - Network Monitoring
|
| Transmission - Bit torrent
|
| Apple Numbers, Pages - Alternative to M$ Office if you dont need
| all the features.
|
| Text Editor - VS Code or Sublime,
|
| And that is it. Other than the Apps above and Default Apps by
| Apple like Stocks and Notes, 99% of my time are inside Browser.
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39164362
| sircastor wrote:
| The commentary stream I was watching described it as "An whole
| lot of Sherlocking going on": Passwords app, Window Snapping,
| iPhone to mac Display mirroring. It feels especially tone deaf
| that they're doing it _at their developer conference_
|
| If you're unfamiliar with the term, "Sherlocking" is the act of
| Apple introducing some 3rd-party's App features as a core
| component of the operating system, essentially obviating the app
| and the developers that created it.
|
| An incomplete list of "Sherlocked" things:
|
| - Watson - a tool for finding stuff on your Mac. Replicated by
| Apple's "Sherlock", hence the name of the phenomenon.
|
| - Growl - Popover notifications Replicated by Apple's
| "Notifications"
|
| - Konfabulator - provided a layer of widgets that could do
| various things, sort of like the old desk accessories applets.
| Replicated by Apple's "Dashboard"
|
| - Camo - Allowed you to use your iPhone as a webcam. Replicated
| by Apple's "Continuity Camera"
|
| The list goes on and on.
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