[HN Gopher] British Nuclear Warning System
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       British Nuclear Warning System
        
       Author : Bluestein
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2024-06-09 20:11 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.ringbell.co.uk)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.ringbell.co.uk)
        
       | S_A_P wrote:
       | That page is barely legible in that color scheme.
        
         | KennyBlanken wrote:
         | The entire site is a dumpster fire. The writing is horrible,
         | everything is poorly organized, and the site is "navigable" via
         | shitty javascript crap.
         | 
         | It's a shame that the information is so badly presented.
        
         | edfletcher_t137 wrote:
         | Came here to say this. I was genuinely interested in reading
         | this page, but the blue-on-gray promptly gave me a legitimate
         | headache. I cannot understand the person who thinks this is OK.
        
           | andyjohnson0 wrote:
           | Reader mode (Firefox) worked for me
        
       | 29athrowaway wrote:
       | Reminds me of Threads, the movie.
       | 
       | It's on YouTube, but I won't link it here because it's probably
       | the most horrifying film ever.
        
         | Bluestein wrote:
         | In the style of "The Day After" I take it ...
        
           | spitfire wrote:
           | Nope.
           | 
           | Threads is much worse.
        
             | Bluestein wrote:
             | Gosh.-
        
           | secfirstmd wrote:
           | Threads is the most harrowing movie by far. Remember watching
           | it in college and not being able to get out of bed the next
           | day because I was so fucking depressed.
        
             | NikkiA wrote:
             | I remember watching it when it originally aired when I was
             | 13, and having to talk about it at school the next day - we
             | were in the middle of an assignment on the threat of
             | nuclear war at the time, it was tacked into our english
             | language class as I recall (tbf, I can't really think of
             | anything else, other than possibly Physics, where the topic
             | would have been better suited, and Physics could probably
             | only have carried a very dry discussion of it).
        
           | duskwuff wrote:
           | Similar, but _Threads_ is even more grim.
        
           | gerdesj wrote:
           | Follow up "Threads" with "When the wind blows".
        
         | syx wrote:
         | I recently watched Threads for the first time, and I was
         | scarred. The way it portrays the effects of a nuclear attack
         | was too real and made me feel incredibly depressed for days. It
         | felt almost as if I were looking at a portal into the future,
         | showing how the human race will eventually end.
        
           | andyjohnson0 wrote:
           | I had the same reaction to watching it a few years ago -
           | including the lingering depression. I wouldnt willingly
           | repeat the experience.
        
         | aspenmayer wrote:
         | Threads (1984)
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvFu7Z5cc88
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads_(1984_film)
         | 
         | Even the trailer is harrowing with audio alone:
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgT4Y30DkaA
         | 
         | The part where the audio seamlessly transitions from screams
         | into screeching wind, wails, and explosions was chillingly well
         | done in the most dramatic way.
         | 
         | If you like Threads, check out Children of Men, which is also
         | disturbingly realistic and also set in UK.
        
           | amelius wrote:
           | Hmm, sounds like watching this movie has 2 possible outcomes:
           | either I don't like it and end up psychologically scarred, or
           | I like it and I know I'm some sort of psychopath.
        
             | aspenmayer wrote:
             | There's definitely not a lot to like, but there is a lot to
             | appreciate.
             | 
             | If you want a somewhat toned down version, the first
             | episode of James Burke's _Connections_ describes some of
             | the same concepts and themes in the context of the NYC
             | blackout of 1965, and is only somewhat less disturbing, but
             | is easily the most upsetting episode of the otherwise
             | charming educational program.
             | 
             | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetplHcM7aQ
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             | https://archive.org/details/ConnectionsByJamesBurke
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_1965
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(British_TV_serie
             | s...
        
             | gerdesj wrote:
             | We do proper apocalyptic books and films in the UK! If you
             | survive "Threads" and "When the wind blows", why not wash
             | it down with some dystopia! 1984, Animal Farm, Children of
             | men.
             | 
             | Other apocalypses and dystopias are available. The UK is
             | not the sole source of them. 451F, Brave New World ...
        
           | 29athrowaway wrote:
           | If you want to skip the prelude to the attack you can skip to
           | 47:45.
           | 
           | It is messed up to think this level of destruction happened
           | in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But in their case it was even more
           | horrifying because nobody knew what was going on or what to
           | do.
        
         | jaxelr wrote:
         | I can also recommend the new Annie Jacobsen book, Nuclear War:
         | A Scenario for a horrific experience that would scar you for a
         | few days :)
        
           | manyturtles wrote:
           | The Annie Jacobsen book didn't have quite the same visceral
           | impact of despair for me as watching Threads. But it was
           | still disturbing for two reasons: the cascade which leads to
           | war is remarkably believable with its grab bag of technical
           | limitations, forced decisions with flawed data and dramatic
           | consequences, and that it was written "now". It's not
           | something which can be tidied away into a past era which we'd
           | like to thing we emerged from never to return.
        
       | jajag wrote:
       | In a similar vein, I recently came across Peter Laurie's Beneath
       | the City Streets
       | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beneath_the_City_Streets) in a
       | second hand bookshop. Despite belonging to a very different time,
       | it's still a very interesting read.
        
         | devjab wrote:
         | When I grew up in the 80ies Denmark nuclear "defense" was sort
         | of build into everyday aspects. My childhood school had some
         | really wide hallways with really wide doors. Turns out it was
         | because my suburb was at the right distance from the city mass
         | to be turned into a hospital following a nuclear attack. It
         | also turned out the school had a large underground system full
         | of various medical supplies and a control center of sorts to
         | coordinate the medical leadership.
         | 
         | Cities mandated that housing needed basements which could be
         | turned into nuclear bunkers/shelters. Where my parents live now
         | there is basically a tiny town in the basements. Much of it is
         | now things like fitness centers, tennis courts, a library and a
         | few stores (not groceries or other things you eat/drink). Back
         | in the 80ies it was solely meant for people storage, but after
         | the wall fell it was slowly turned into more useable stuff.
         | 
         | Similarly most of our bunkers are now either discontinued or
         | used for something practical.
         | 
         | I wonder if we're going to see an increase in "civil defense"
         | again now that we're in another Cold War.
        
       | Animats wrote:
       | Europe will be needing such systems soon. Poland is upgrading
       | theirs now.[1] Here's the live Ukraine air raid alert map.[2]
       | 
       | [1] https://breakingdefense.com/2024/02/us-
       | greenlights-1-2-billi...
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       | [2] https://alerts.in.ua/en
        
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