[HN Gopher] Fighting an anti-doping finding
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Fighting an anti-doping finding
Author : breathenow
Score : 15 points
Date : 2024-06-07 19:53 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| Gualdrapo wrote:
| I happen to be related to Miguel Angel Lopez (his grandparent is
| one of my father's uncles). If you happen to not know who he is,
| he was in the Astana Pro Team and had an infamous short stint at
| Movistar. A few days ago UCI informed he was suspended from
| professional cycling due to an AAF, and was involved into a
| doping scandal but allegedly his name got clear about that.
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| I haven't met him personally so I can't tell if he's actually
| done any wrongdoing intentionally or not, but I do know for a
| fact he has spoken several times about retiring due to the mental
| toll competition has had on him and several colleagues of his, as
| far as back as 2017.
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| And if you take a look at it, it's something that it's not talked
| enough on the sport circles. In cycling specially, if someone
| becomes suspect of doping every "fan" will immediately point
| their fingers at them - unless it's one of your favorite
| cyclists. It happens everywhere online, from Facebook to Twitter
| to the rampant tribalism of r/peloton - immediately you'll become
| public enemy #1 no matter what. Cycling has had a bad story with
| doping and if the pressure to give results is not big enough, the
| stress of being labelled as a doper is a new whole level. I still
| can recall people throwed urine to Froome at some stages in the
| Tour de France.
| ungreased0675 wrote:
| What a wild and heartbreaking story.
|
| Who pays for all this anti-doping bureaucracy? It sounds very
| expensive for both the agency and the athletes.
| nwiswell wrote:
| A great deal of the money trickles down from the Olympics/IOC
| (WADA).
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| Individual sporting bodies are also under a great deal of
| pressure to comply with WADA standards, since there is a very
| real threat of being kicked out of the Olympics for
| insufficiently draconian enforcement (a perennial story with
| Weightlifting / IWF). So in many cases the athletes themselves
| pay for it via their dues to their sporting body.
| Something1234 wrote:
| I really hope people comment on this. It's absolutely fascinating
| to me how a private organization can ruin someone's life or
| completely jerk them around like this. With no recourse.
| cobertos wrote:
| I hate to think of other agencies that act this negligently.
| Not enough funds/competence to do their task properly but a ton
| of power to destroy people's lives, the problems too complex to
| tease out without real focus.
| stefan_ wrote:
| When they signed up to be professional riders with the UCI,
| they also signed up to be monitored by WADA. The rules are
| clear and can realistically not work any other way: the
| majority of violations are on strict liability, it is on the
| athlete to establish how the substance entered their body if
| they want to claim contaminant.
| kelnos wrote:
| > _The rules are clear and can realistically not work any
| other way_
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| Here's one way it can work differently: if someone has to
| spend any amount of money to clear their name, WADA (or
| whomever) should have to reimburse them.
|
| It's criminal that the author of this article drained her
| savings merely to prove that she did nothing wrong.
| adolph wrote:
| > how a private organization can ruin someone's life
|
| Believe it or not, the cyclists signed up for the possibility
| of ruin. Maybe there is an argument for some legal intervention
| to prevent people from agreeing to something so egregious?
| alright2565 wrote:
| What's worse (and likely the reason this is being posted here
| today) is the announcement that the global organization, WADA, is
| appealing the country-level organization's (UKAD) decision in
| this case: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2024/06/07/lizzy-
| banks-w...
| wqtz wrote:
| I geniunely think "anti doping" as a policy practice stands
| against everything that makes human as a speicies progress as a
| physcially being. 'Doping' should proudly inducted biomedical
| research, regulated and commercialized. Because anti-doping is
| fundamentally a flawed concept, it does not surprise it's
| application is marred with corruption, negligence and
| incompetence.
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