[HN Gopher] Turn On, Tune In, Write Code
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Turn On, Tune In, Write Code
Author : pseudolus
Score : 54 points
Date : 2024-06-07 15:14 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| webspiderus wrote:
| yep
| YeahThisIsMe wrote:
| Actually that's a picture of Joe Rogan and for that reason I'm
| out.
| jrflowers wrote:
| It will never stop being incredibly funny that in the past 24
| months an untold legion of people have emerged from heroic doses
| of shrooms/LSD clutching a note that just has "what if u could
| chat with a pdf???" scrawled on it
| r2_pilot wrote:
| And while they're doing that, I'm making a voice interface to
| Claude 3 that I've used for PDFs.
| lawlessone wrote:
| I seen someone on LinkedIn yesterday talking about how you'll
| be able to "chat with your database"
|
| Like, what if i don't want to be friends with a database? What
| next ? a few beers with my fridge? Skinny dipping with my
| toaster?
| wdh505 wrote:
| Listen mortician! I just thought the toaster wanted to be
| friendly.
| lawlessone wrote:
| haha I forgot the Addams Family Values :D
| tcmart14 wrote:
| More importantly, I'd be afraid of what the database at work
| would have to say. My guess is a lot of not really nice
| things since the schema designers were idiots (luckily I had
| no hand in it, but I just get to deal with the consequences).
| shermantanktop wrote:
| The schema registry is chill, but do not talk the query
| optimizer! It won't stop complaining about table scans.
| chasd00 wrote:
| i'd be fine with chatting with my database as long as it's in
| a structured way. Like a language I could use to query for
| information and insights on the data.
| itishappy wrote:
| A structured language for querying, you say? I think you
| might be onto something here... What would you call it?
| chasd00 wrote:
| SLfQ? something like that, i've never been good at naming
| things...
| itishappy wrote:
| I'm not sure if that's going to take off in the age of
| AI. How about SQLM? I'd suggest SQLLM, but is it really a
| large model if it fits in a single repository?
| rzzzt wrote:
| Pronounced "squalm". I'd have no qualms about using
| squalm. Get your results in milliseconds! Squalm.
| malux85 wrote:
| 3,817 VC's entered the chat
| add-sub-mul-div wrote:
| What if SQL isn't that hard if you put some effort into
| learning it, and then you can enjoy conversing with data in a
| language that isn't intractibly fraught with ambiguity?
| psunavy03 wrote:
| > Skinny dipping with my toaster?
|
| Sounds deadly.
| narrator wrote:
| You laugh, but people in incel circles are heralding the
| nascent arrival of better than real AI girlfriends. She night
| as well live in your toaster or fridge if you're trying to be
| energy efficient.
| cjk2 wrote:
| I think if I chatted with my database it'd have nothing nice
| to say. It'd just bitch about the deadlocks, keyspace
| starvation, that other one it has to share everything with
| and all those people asking stupid questions.
| setgree wrote:
| I don't think your toaster would like the swimming part --
| better take it streaking instead.
| sph wrote:
| "We strongly recommend becoming best friends with your fridge
| to get the most out of all its features. Please follow this
| guide on how to cultivate a meaningful relationship with your
| new AI-powered((tm)) smart fridge."
| mattgreenrocks wrote:
| It's a tech bro prosperity gospel. Same thing happens with
| stuff like stoicism, where the core tenets begin taking a back
| seat to worldly success (see most of Ryan Holiday's books).
|
| Another instance of SV bros unknowingly LARPing spirituality is
| more obvious: the weird, intense religious-like fervor some
| people have about AI.
|
| This stuff inhabits the void in people, and it becomes very
| obvious.
| sdwr wrote:
| AI, taken seriously, really is wrap-around mobius-strip God
| 2.0
|
| Like, the idea of a global integrated organism that
| integrates information at the speed of light, and had perfect
| recall, is basically Genesis.
| exodust wrote:
| The "drop out" part isn't meant to be permanent or literal. Even
| Tim Leary kept busy writing books, teaching, giving talks and
| generally making a living.
|
| Nothing wrong with boosting creativity. The choice of directing
| that creativity to your employer's profits is only an issue if
| your company is boring or unethical or undeserving. Besides, I
| don't think micro-dosing aspires to the "turn on, tune in" part
| of the equation. I've never micro-dosed, but a coffee-like buzz
| has no connection with Leary's mantra.
| dkasper wrote:
| I think you've mostly got it, but it doesn't mean drop out of
| life it means drop out of the mainstream and be self reliant.
|
| Leary explained it directly: > "Turn on" meant go within to
| activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to
| the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific
| triggers engaging them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this
| end. "Tune in" meant interact harmoniously with the world
| around you--externalize, materialize, express your new internal
| perspectives. "Drop out" suggested an active, selective,
| graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious
| commitments. "Drop Out" meant self-reliance, a discovery of
| one's singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and
| change. Unhappily, my explanations of this sequence of personal
| development are often misinterpreted to mean "Get stoned and
| abandon all constructive activity".[4]
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_on,_tune_in,_drop_out
| sanderjd wrote:
| The last section of this article struck me as being full of non
| sequiturs. It's not clear where the "write code" portion of the
| title comes from at all. The word "code" doesn't appear until the
| final word in the article. I remain confused what the connection
| is with the picture and brief discussion of Joe Rogan. What does
| he have to do with "write code"?
|
| Very confusing article... Maybe the author was partaking in
| psychedelics while writing it?
| shkkmo wrote:
| The article talks about the resurgence of interest in
| psychedelics in silicon valley, references how the history of
| silicon valley culter has its roots in the 60s culture that
| embraced psychedelics, and talks about how the current approach
| empasizes microdosing to increasr productivity. "Write code" is
| glib, but referrences a narrative that the article pretty
| clearly established.
| faramarz wrote:
| Basically, it comes down to this: if you haven't taken the time
| to define your core values, other people's values will be forced
| upon you, in everything that you do.
|
| And I say forced because social program will not sustain your
| well being.. not yet in North America anyway.
| ModernCannabist wrote:
| I dislike this article.
|
| It has some ideas worth discussion but it's wrapped in a thick
| layer of what seems to be purposeful misunderstand, and
| misstatements. It lacks crucial context.
|
| > "Turn on" meant go within to activate your neural and genetic
| equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of
| consciousness and the specific triggers engaging them. Drugs were
| one way to accomplish this end. "Tune in" meant interact
| harmoniously with the world around you--externalize, materialize,
| express your new internal perspectives. "Drop out" suggested an
| active, selective, graceful process of detachment from
| involuntary or unconscious commitments. "Drop Out" meant self-
| reliance, a discovery of one's singularity, a commitment to
| mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily, my explanations of this
| sequence of personal development are often misinterpreted to mean
| "Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity" ~ T. Leary
|
| That's Leary on his own use of the phrase, and I think this
| article is continuing this purposeful misinterpretation. Further,
| the article treats the phrase as if it is synthesis of everything
| the psychedelic movement stood to offer.
|
| While I'm rather interested in exploring where the psychedelic
| movement moved from counter-culture to grind-culture, to do so
| with such hyperbolic statements as
|
| > By contrast, the lifestyle influencers hawking psychedelics
| today lack the intellectual ambition and the incentive to offer
| their audiences anything other than another consumption niche.
|
| leaves me feeling the author is more interesting in exploring
| their own opinions.
| xerxex wrote:
| You made Tim Leary cry in his grave!
| hi-v-rocknroll wrote:
| Nawh, it was Aldous Huxley. I could hear the wailing from
| here drowning out my downstairs neighbor's 2 inappropriate-
| breed-for-apartments yapping and howling dogs.
| swayvil wrote:
| I used to use weed help solve software design riddles. The lesson
| being that "great focus" isn't everything.
| hi-v-rocknroll wrote:
| Were there side-effects, legal constraints too risky, or was it
| not all that effective? It was my impression that D8-/9-THC
| slows down thought processes, gives a false sense of clarity
| rather than actual clarity, but enhances (painter) creativity
| over (hacker) logic and order.
|
| My process relies on putting difficult problems out of
| immediate focus, and use kinetic and calming means like
| exercise, meditation, and hot saunas. If that doesn't work,
| throwing away code and trying again like rewriting a book
| chapter can be useful; Joe Armstrong [RIP] was a big believer
| in this.
|
| For ideation, a variation of stimulus reduction approaching
| sensory deprivation without a dark, warm water tank works for
| me.
| xyzniels wrote:
| Whereas "today 'popularizers _tend to_ promote psycheledics as a
| way of self-discovery..." (instead of some collectivist utopia as
| if this has always been the norm ). I don't buy it. My father was
| in South America in the early 80's taking ayahuasca guided by
| Chamans way before it was mainstream. And it has always been a
| means of self-discovery for them (and much more). There is
| nothing modern and individualistic about this approach as
| depicted by the author.
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