[HN Gopher] PSA: How to keep using adblockers on Chrome and Chro...
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PSA: How to keep using adblockers on Chrome and Chromium
Author : coolelectronics
Score : 92 points
Date : 2024-06-06 22:04 UTC (57 minutes ago)
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| justahuman74 wrote:
| This seems like it's too hard to tell friends/family.
|
| Is the go-to now just 'install firefox'?
| jsheard wrote:
| If Google leaves a boolean switch in Chromium to keep V2
| enabled then I assume most if not all of the third party
| Chromium-derived browsers will just flip it to true by default.
| That's easy for them to do, the hard part is if Google strips
| out V2 altogether and leaves the downstream browsers to patch
| it back in.
| davesmylie wrote:
| There will be a switch available ... but only for a period of
| time before the functionality is completely removed
| metadat wrote:
| And apparently, as per this post, only available to folks
| who are savvy with the command-line.
| londons_explore wrote:
| Even when it's stripped out entirely, it will be easy to add
| back in. The changes (that adblockers care about) are just a
| few if statements changing the conditions under which
| synchronous inspection of web requests are allowed. Manifest
| V3 still allows them. But only in limited circumstances which
| are unsuitable for ad blocking.
| causality0 wrote:
| You can't just send them a .reg file and tell them to double
| click on it and hit ok?
| fifteen1506 wrote:
| Just tell them to use Edge. It's the worse you can do to
| Google.
| paxys wrote:
| It's also the worst you can do to your friends and family.
| irrational wrote:
| Why edge instead of Firefox?
| rwaksmunski wrote:
| Search defaults to Bing?
| pcf wrote:
| On macOS it actually uses less resources, and you can use
| Chrome extensions.
| coolelectronics wrote:
| i would always tell them to install firefox. this is mostly for
| developers and tech oriented people who need to keep chrome
| around
| stavros wrote:
| If I need to keep Chrome around for development, I'm not
| using extensions on it, and I'm only visiting the sites I'm
| developing.
| hgs3 wrote:
| > This seems like it's too hard to tell friends/family.
|
| It's an opportunity for someone to write an "adblock fixer" app
| for the non-technical market.
| stavros wrote:
| I don't understand why people want to teach others how to
| cope with an abusive relationship, instead of telling them to
| leave.
| VancouverMan wrote:
| After the XUL removal debacle a number of years ago, I can't
| trust Firefox to offer a suitably flexible and capable
| extension system over the long run.
|
| While some people will claim that those changes were necessary,
| the impact was still very negative for the extension developers
| and users who were affected at the time.
|
| The numerous other user-hostile decisions made by Firefox's
| developers certainly don't help repair the trust that was lost
| then.
| hehdhdjehehegwv wrote:
| Just stop using Chrome FFS.
| nazgulsenpai wrote:
| First recommendation would be a pihole running anywhere you can
| run it, but if you don't want to or can't do that, you can use
| Steven Black's ad list to create a hosts file to DNS sink ad/bad
| networks locally:
|
| https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts
| jsheard wrote:
| Isn't DNS-level blocking strictly less capable than even the
| nerfed Manifest V3 filtering API? V3 can still block at a more
| granular level than nuking entire hostnames AFAIK, even if it's
| not as granular as V2.
| cj wrote:
| Specifically, the ability to block specific URL patterns in
| addition to just hostnames.
|
| DNS blocking gets you 90% of the way there, though. (And the
| only way to block your smart fridge from phoning home)
| stavros wrote:
| First recommendation would be Firefox.
| cranberryturkey wrote:
| firefox is still the best browser.
| coolelectronics wrote:
| i do wish! firefox has web features missing that i need on a
| daily basis, and their developer team seems wholly uninterested
| on working on them at all
| stavros wrote:
| Like what?
| martin293 wrote:
| Which features do you mean?
| ClassyJacket wrote:
| What features?
| martin293 wrote:
| This solution will work for exactly a year. That's how long
| google gives enterprises to migrate to manifest v3.
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| Source:
| https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate...
| baxuz wrote:
| Use Adguard
| unpopularopp wrote:
| How do you make sites that are only whitelist certain browsers to
| work under Firefox? Is there an app, extensions etc anything?
|
| For some handful of sites I have to keep a Chrome install around
| page_fault wrote:
| https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-st...
| martin293 wrote:
| Sometimes this might not work, in that case try a different
| extension or different user agent strings. I had to go
| through a few before I found one that worked.
| actinium226 wrote:
| I just keep a Chrome install around and when a website seems
| like it's misbehaving I just fire it up in Chrome.
|
| It's a bunch of baggage to have around, but it's useful for
| other stuff. Like when you hit your monthly limit of free
| articles you can just fire it up in Chrome and now you've
| doubled your monthly free limit!
| krackers wrote:
| >key was added and will presumably stay forever
|
| Nope, it will be removed after 1 year. There is a chance they
| delay it depending on how much the enterprises complain, but so
| long as all their big clients are migrated I doubt they care
| about the long-tail.
| londons_explore wrote:
| There's a good chance that whoever is driving this change
| within Google gets promoted/retires in less than a year, and
| then it gets left in limbo forever like so many other TODO():'s
| in the code...
| jiggawatts wrote:
| "I like this pot, but it just keeps getting warmer and warmer.
| Does anyone know where I can get some ice packs or something?"
|
| "No, I don't want to jump out. Stop telling me that!"
| actinium226 wrote:
| Or just use Firefox.
| gravescale wrote:
| Finally some news that makes me think the Firefox has a glimmer
| of hope left.
| quickthrowman wrote:
| Same here, I'll be switching to Firefox today after hearing
| this news.
| chx wrote:
| Every app there are gets worse and worse -- aka Doctorow's
| enshittification
|
| So people will just take the sudden deluge of ads in stride and
| move on. Chances of this moving people to Firefox is slim.
| jay_kyburz wrote:
| Question: Is it possible to run ad blocking at the OS level
| rather than in the browser? Requests to ad servers just never
| leave your PC? traffic from ad servers just never arrives at the
| browser?
| sigma5 wrote:
| I switched to firefox one year ago. Works fine!
| efangs wrote:
| everyone should just have a pihole
| skrause wrote:
| Pi-hole and other DNS-based ad blockers are a lot worse than
| even Manifest v3 ad blockers, so they aren't any alternative.
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