[HN Gopher] Artists are fleeing Instagram to keep their work out...
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       Artists are fleeing Instagram to keep their work out of Meta's AI
        
       Author : ckozlowski
       Score  : 49 points
       Date   : 2024-06-06 12:54 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.washingtonpost.com)
        
       | thegrim33 wrote:
       | It's always interesting to note editorialized headlines. People
       | "fleeing" Instagram, or "scrambling", or covid "surging", etc.
       | When they could just provide the data about how many users are
       | leaving and let the data speak for itself.
       | 
       | Whether there's even any data behind this or if it's an article
       | based on a handful of random tweets who knows, as it's a pay-
       | walled article.
       | 
       | On a meta level, what percentage of HN readers are paying for a
       | subscription to the washington post? Why are links to paid
       | articles even allowed when the vast majority of readers won't
       | even have access to read it?
        
         | foundart wrote:
         | > Cara founder Jingna Zhang said the app has grown from about
         | 40,000 users to 650,000 in the past week
        
           | s1mon wrote:
           | And Instagram had 800 million in 2017 (the last year with
           | data on Wikipedia). Other searches and sites have numbers
           | well over a billion users. I don't see how Cara is at all a
           | threat or significant at the moment.
        
         | foundart wrote:
         | https://wapo.st/45bTxIp
        
         | mrguyorama wrote:
         | >On a meta level, what percentage of HN readers are paying for
         | a subscription to the washington post? Why are links to paid
         | articles even allowed when the vast majority of readers won't
         | even have access to read it?
         | 
         | HN rules explicitly say we aren't allowed to complain about
         | that
        
           | hu3 wrote:
           | I wonder if it is it allowed to complain about the rules.
           | 
           | Admins seems to be quite open and helpful from what I saw.
        
             | throwup238 wrote:
             | Worst case scenario someone flags your posts. Go nuts with
             | it.
        
         | paulddraper wrote:
         | Instagram refugees seek refuge from Meta's AI
        
         | Larrikin wrote:
         | I wonder what percentage of HN posts have someone complaining
         | about the headline of an article instead of it's contents.
        
           | jjtheblunt wrote:
           | you spelled "its" wrong. :)
        
             | matthewsinclair wrote:
             | Well played, sir. This comment is peak HN. You have nothing
             | more you need to do today. Give yourself a pat on the back
             | and head home.
        
               | jjtheblunt wrote:
               | :). sometimes things are too funny here, i must confess.
        
           | bediger4000 wrote:
           | I subscribe to WaPo, but the latest editor changes are making
           | me leery. I'm keeping an eye on the slant of their political
           | coverage, and I'm ready to unsubscribe.
        
           | barryrandall wrote:
           | I wonder what the average rank of the most popular comment
           | complaining about the headline is.
        
           | hombre_fatal wrote:
           | The "article" is two paragraphs and links to a single
           | Instagram user who protested the website, and it says users
           | are "flocking" from Instagram.
           | 
           | I agree with their complaint.
        
           | rsynnott wrote:
           | I mean, based on the comments on the average post, at least
           | half of the commenters never actually click the link, but
           | instead imagine what it might have been based on the
           | headline, so it seems fair that headlines would have a unique
           | importance on this here orange website.
        
       | exabrial wrote:
       | I want a computer to do my dishes so I can work on Art; I don't
       | want a computer to make art so I only have to do dishes.
        
         | exe34 wrote:
         | you could learn mindfulness meditation, then you could do
         | either the dishes or the art and derive, allegedly, the same
         | pleasure.
        
           | bluefirebrand wrote:
           | Sounds like self-gaslighting to me
        
             | throwup238 wrote:
             | You have just unlocked the Religion tech tree!
             | 
             | Press 'M' to start a Crusade.
        
             | exe34 wrote:
             | all forms of happiness or disappointment ultimately boil
             | down to a decision that's made somewhere in your brain:
             | this is bad. this is good. it is entirely within your means
             | to decide for yourself, no matter your circumstances or the
             | vagueries of happenstance.
        
               | shrimp_emoji wrote:
               | Zen meditation is less gaslighting yourself into "false
               | good" and more "the wise old man bowed his head solemnly
               | and spoke, 'There is actually no difference between good
               | and bad things. You imbecile. You fucking moron.'"
        
               | exe34 wrote:
               | it's the same in Stoicism, once you realise that you get
               | to choose for yourself, it doesn't matter what external
               | circumstances are, you can still be pleased with your
               | choices within what's open to you.
               | 
               | your comment also reminds me of discourses by Epictetus.
               | he sounds like an irritated teacher modelling what
               | patience looks like.
        
         | dorkwood wrote:
         | Too bad you didn't tweet this. You could have got 100k likes!
         | 
         | https://x.com/AuthorJMac/status/1773679197631701238
        
         | shrimp_emoji wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec's_paradox has bad news
         | for you.
        
           | IshKebab wrote:
           | I dunno if that's entirely the case. State of the art LLM
           | reasoning is very impressive but it clearly can't replace
           | actual people doing complex reasoning jobs yet. Even stuff
           | like telephone helplines.
           | 
           | On the other hand we're starting to see some crazily
           | impressive progress on the physical robotics front.
           | 
           | I think it's definitely still an open question whether we'll
           | see e.g. a humanoid robot that can load a dishwasher, or an
           | LLM that can _reliably_ .. I dunno, edit a video, first.
        
         | ipaddr wrote:
         | Dishwashers exist. Now you can have a machine wash dishes while
         | a machine makes art.
        
       | shrimp_emoji wrote:
       | As a programmer, I'm thinking about fleeing GitHub for similar
       | reasons. :C
        
         | Bjorkbat wrote:
         | I'd probably jump ship myself were it not for Github's social
         | features.
         | 
         | I like my little green squares
        
           | Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote:
           | FYI Gitea has green squares. Assuming we are taking about a
           | rather pointless activity graph thingy.
        
         | meowface wrote:
         | Their policy is to not use code from private repos, right?
        
       | iamacyborg wrote:
       | The opt-out process was pretty easy, despite Meta using
       | purposefully misleading language to make it seem more
       | complicated.
        
       | paxys wrote:
       | This is the kind of article whose source is 4 tweets.
        
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