[HN Gopher] My Programming Journey
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       My Programming Journey
        
       Author : ingve
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2024-06-05 08:36 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | jmclnx wrote:
       | >Before I was born, my father somehow went from a farmboy to a
       | college-educated programmer at a time when programming wasn't
       | even a "real job" (early 1980s).
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       | Same here, I was a warehouse worker. I took a pay cut for this
       | move, but I loved the work. Little did I know what the future
       | held :)
       | 
       | Very nice read.
        
         | gavinhoward wrote:
         | Thank you for the compliment. I was not feeling very happy
         | today, and that helped.
        
         | dkarl wrote:
         | When I was a kid, programming was something I did to screw
         | around and procrastinate my real studies. I saw it as one or
         | two steps up from video games or crossword puzzles on the
         | spectrum from "waste of time" to "valuable self-development."
         | 
         | My dad, who hated computers with a passion but could see them
         | becoming more and more pervasive in society, always thought
         | that being "good with computers" would be something I could
         | fall back on if I had to. He was right. That's basically how I
         | ended up in my first software development job, which I enjoyed
         | enough that I eventually decided to pursue it as a career.
        
       | gtsnexp wrote:
       | The path to mastery is nonlinear and fraught with obstacles that
       | extend beyond technical knowledge
        
       | herodotus wrote:
       | > programming wasn't even a "real job" (early 1980s)
       | 
       | This made me laugh. You young-uns! I earned my first money for
       | programming in 1970. I wrote, in IBM 360 assembly language, a
       | "subroutine" to compute square-root, using a Chebechev polynomial
       | to get a close approximation, and two iterations of Newton's
       | algorithm to get the required precision. I got a job with Control
       | Data Corp (as a COBOL programmer) a year or so later. But the
       | real point of my laugh is that real jobs in programming probably
       | started in the early 1950s.
        
         | gavinhoward wrote:
         | Author here. Yeah, I know. That's why I put it in quotes. Also,
         | I rushed this post out; I didn't intend to see it here.
        
         | velcrovan wrote:
         | "real" here can be shorthand for "popularly recognized", e.g.
         | "pretty much everyone recognizes it as a useful vocation and
         | has a general idea what it involves".
         | 
         | It's not to say you couldn't get paid to do it in 1955. But if
         | in 1955 you told someone at the hair salon or the bar that you
         | were a "programmer", you would get funny looks [?] 100% of the
         | time.
        
           | dkarl wrote:
           | They would probably think you handled programming for a local
           | movie theater, arts organization, performance venue, or
           | something like that. But my guess is they would find it an
           | odd way to say it.
        
           | ravenstine wrote:
           | My dad was just talking to me about his experiences going to
           | school and college in the 70s and, while he learned to use
           | FORTRAN on a time-shared mainframe, programming or computer
           | science as a career path wasn't advertised to him as a
           | possible career path. Most administrators and guidance
           | counselors at the time probably didn't understand those
           | fields yet. Might have been different if my dad went to
           | Berkeley, but it would not surprise me if most of the
           | education didn't see programming as "real" yet.
           | 
           | Heck, the web was almost brand new when I was in elementary
           | school, and there was only one teacher who decided to take
           | the initiative and teach kids HTML. He wasn't even my normal
           | teacher, and I think I kind of just got pulled into it for
           | some reason. In any case, I carried those skills he taught me
           | all the way into adulthood, and I'm a web developer today! If
           | he didn't host that class, I might not have ever bothered
           | learning about Web technology. Otherwise, it wasn't like
           | computer skills were part of the curriculum beyond learning
           | to type.
        
             | vincent-manis wrote:
             | Weird. When I was in Grade 12 in 1967, someone from IBM
             | came to our school to talk about computing careers. I
             | graduated in the first B.Sc. class in computer science at
             | the University of British Columbia in 1971. Virtually
             | everyone I knew in the class had a computing job on
             | graduation (I didn't, apart from a part-time job, because I
             | wanted to do grad studies). Maybe Vancouver wasn't then the
             | backwater we thought it was.
        
           | herodotus wrote:
           | Maybe. At CDC I my job title was Systems Analyst.
        
       | mgussekloo wrote:
       | That was a nice article, and it reminded me that programming
       | truly is a weird journey. The destination is almost certainly not
       | the point of it.
        
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