[HN Gopher] Diamond industry 'in trouble' as lab-grown gemstones...
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       Diamond industry 'in trouble' as lab-grown gemstones tank prices
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       Author : keploy
       Score  : 45 points
       Date   : 2024-06-05 14:55 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | mbonnet wrote:
       | Good. The diamond industry has destroyed multiple countries, one
       | of which I lived in (Sierra Leone). Screw em.
        
         | olliej wrote:
         | Also the only reason the prices of "natural" diamonds are high
         | is because of intentionally constricted supply
        
           | johnea wrote:
           | Seriously. De Beers has held as many diamonds in storage as
           | the entire world supply, specifically to manipulate the
           | "industry".
           | 
           | Personally, the idea that everyone has to have one to get
           | married is just stupid.
           | 
           | Sadly, the meme generations have just reinforced these ritual
           | practicies...
        
           | sham1 wrote:
           | This limits the supply, but we also must remember that the
           | reason there's enough demand to justify the diamond industry
           | to do this kind of shady stuff is due to marketing. I
           | seriously doubt that diamonds, and especially natural
           | diamonds, would be as popular as they are without the
           | marketing, since the lab-grown ones are indistinguishable in
           | all but price, if one wants one.
           | 
           | Famously of course, marketing is responsible for the relative
           | prevalence of diamond wedding and engagement rings. That
           | they'd have to be worth N months' or years' salary? All
           | marketing. And it has clearly worked, given how prevalent it
           | is. And it has worked so well in fact, that this very idea
           | has been embedded into wide parts of Western society.
        
             | leereeves wrote:
             | > I seriously doubt that diamonds, and especially natural
             | diamonds, would be as popular as they are without the
             | marketing, since the lab-grown ones are indistinguishable
             | in all but price, if one wants one.
             | 
             | Price is often the point. Diamonds are conspicuous wealth,
             | an easy way to demonstrate "I'm better than you because my
             | diamond is bigger/clearer/natural" for people who think
             | like that.
        
       | adverbly wrote:
       | Hot take: it's not going to stop at diamonds. Marriage is
       | expensive. Weddings are expensive.
       | 
       | Honestly, if you compare it to the other really expensive things
       | that happen around the same stage of life... buying a home,
       | having children... Unless I'm from a highly religious family(also
       | in decline), I can tell you easily which one I'd call pass on.
       | 
       | https://ifstudies.org/blog/1-in-3-a-record-share-of-young-ad...
        
         | r2_pilot wrote:
         | Marriage costs $37 dollars in Mississippi, FYI. Celebrations
         | around it, that's a different story.
        
         | tapoxi wrote:
         | I paid $50 to rent a gazebo at our town hall. No regrets having
         | an inexpensive wedding.
         | 
         | I remember the honeymoon we splurged on, much better value,
         | much less planning and coordination to worry about.
        
       | dan-allen wrote:
       | Good!
        
       | jncfhnb wrote:
       | Go with moisonnaite, not lab grown diamonds!
        
         | eppp wrote:
         | Moissanite isn't exactly cheap either.
        
           | Kirby64 wrote:
           | Moissanite is sub $100/carat if you have the right vendor.
           | Not expensive at all.
        
         | pavel_lishin wrote:
         | How come?
        
           | Kirby64 wrote:
           | Shinier than diamonds, for one. Much cheaper than even lab
           | grown diamonds, for two. Almost as hard, and generally even
           | fewer deficits than diamonds (except lab ones which are
           | basically deficit free, just like moissinite).
        
         | ceejayoz wrote:
         | Moissanite is... also lab grown?
        
           | jncfhnb wrote:
           | Lab grown is not a bad thing.
        
             | ceejayoz wrote:
             | I agree, I'm just noting it isn't a distinction between the
             | two.
        
       | wizardforhire wrote:
       | Good. Diamond is a wonder material that would bring about
       | dramatic changes if it were more widely available. Not just grit
       | or gemstones, it's conductive and self lubricating properties are
       | woefully under utilized. Imagine ways, diamond coated shafts, and
       | bearings that last billions of cycles. Not to mention its
       | semiconductor properties.
        
         | Manabu-eo wrote:
         | Diamond heatsinks with RGB for gaymers!
         | 
         | Actually, something similar already exists and is used thanks
         | to synthetic diamonds:
         | https://www.coherent.com/news/blog/diamond-heat-spreaders
        
       | JumpCrisscross wrote:
       | Down 17% in nominal terms over the last 10 years [1]. Add the 32%
       | the dollar has lost in that period [2], and you're looking at a
       | 50% drop in purchasing power.
       | 
       | You'd have done much better in Treasuries [3].
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       | [1] https://www.paulzimnisky.com/roughdiamondindex
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       | [2] https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
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       | [3] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/REAINTRATREARAT10Y
        
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