[HN Gopher] Apple downgrades new M2 iPad Air, 9-core GPU instead...
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       Apple downgrades new M2 iPad Air, 9-core GPU instead of 10-core
        
       Author : janandonly
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2024-06-01 21:22 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (9to5mac.com)
        
       | thimabi wrote:
       | It should be interesting to see if they actually sold iPads with
       | less GPU cores than the specs say, or if the downgrade is just
       | for a new SKU.
        
         | upon_drumhead wrote:
         | It seems pretty clear that it was a mistake and that all of
         | them sold in the last three weeks were 9 core variants.
        
           | O5vYtytb wrote:
           | That's a rather large mistake for a multi trillion dollar
           | company with a very small selection of products. Wtf?
        
             | outofpaper wrote:
             | Imagine a world where you can upgrade your device's RAM,
             | storage, and cores with a simple digital purchase. It's a
             | bittersweet idea--practical for many, yet potentially
             | pricey. Could Apple be considering this innovation?
        
               | mananaysiempre wrote:
               | Innovation as in tried hy Intel[1] in 2010 and
               | discontinued after a massive wave of criticism?
               | 
               | [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Upgrade_Service
        
           | thimabi wrote:
           | I am not so sure of that. Apple does seem like the kind of
           | company that would create an entirely new SKU just for
           | improving margins in a certain product. It all helps
           | differentiating the iPad models.
        
       | Rinzler89 wrote:
       | I wonder if you can unlock that missing core with the pencil
       | trick[1].
       | 
       | [1] https://computer-
       | communication.blogspot.com/2007/06/unlockin...
        
         | hi-v-rocknroll wrote:
         | Doubtful because it's Apple, possibly configured by laser or
         | wire jumpers just prior to package encapsulation.
         | 
         | Older GeForces were hackable similarly, but then Nvidia shifted
         | to specific resistance values:
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5398555
        
       | ajross wrote:
       | Apple consumers have been insulated from the semiconductor
       | industry practice of binning for years by high margins and insane
       | growth. Basically Apple could afford to throw out the "only 9
       | cores work" chips (or whatever) instead of selling them as
       | separate products or performance tiers (or whatever). But now the
       | unit growth is levelling off, so they need to squeeze for
       | "growth" by expanding profits instead.
       | 
       | And one way you do that is by selling the extra chips you'd
       | previously been flagging as yield failures.
        
         | dividedbyzero wrote:
         | When I got my M2 Macbook Air in 2022 I had a choice between 8
         | and 10 GPU cores. I always assumed the 8 core ones were binned
         | 10-core units, too.
        
         | wtallis wrote:
         | The MacBook Air with M2 is already sold with either 8 or 10 GPU
         | cores. Having an iPad Air with M2 use 9 GPU cores is completely
         | unsurprising and unremarkable. The only thing noteworthy here
         | is the mistakes in the spec sheet and press release.
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M1#Variants
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M2#Variants
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M3#Variants
         | 
         | All of the M-series processors so far have been sold in at
         | least two bins.
        
       | user90131313 wrote:
       | with this downgrade is it still be able to run the ipad
       | calculator app? Does anyone know? Because in software side of
       | Ipad IOS, that is the biggest innovation in years.
        
         | behnamoh wrote:
         | the new calculator app is only available on the M4 version
         | because of hardware limits. /s
        
           | kstrauser wrote:
           | A couple years ago Apple added the concept of swap to the new
           | iPad Pro version of the day. M1 finally had the power to
           | support it.
           | 
           | I must've hallucinated running swap on my Amiga way back
           | when.
        
         | walterbell wrote:
         | _> in software side of Ipad IOS, that is the biggest innovation
         | in years_
         | 
         | That would be iSH, slow but functional Alpine Linux emulation
         | for iOS.
         | 
         | https://ish.app
        
           | emptiestplace wrote:
           | I use it all the time, it's great - I just wish ssh-agent
           | worked on it.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | with the export restrictions, only the abacus app will work in
         | global markets.
        
       | behnamoh wrote:
       | Who buys iPads anyway? I have two and I regret it. Totally
       | useless iPadOS, built entirely around Apple's ecosystem (Magic
       | Mouse and Keeb), so much compute power restricted by a greedy
       | company that is worried about their MacBook sales in case iPad
       | becomes a real computing device.
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNv2EOc6ma0
        
         | acchow wrote:
         | There are more than half a billion iPads out there.
        
       | dlevine wrote:
       | The variant with the 8-core GPU is most likely also a binned
       | version of the 10-core GPU variant. It's a lot easier to
       | enable/disable cores than to produce different silicon for minor
       | spec differences.
       | 
       | It may be that Apple's yield of 10-core GPUs is lower than
       | expected, but those GPUs validate just fine with 9 cores enabled.
       | Or maybe Apple had another marketing reason, such as further
       | differentiating the iPad Pro.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | I'll bet it's a yield + dont-want-a-lawsuit combo
        
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