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Show HN: Slipshow - A presentation tool not based on slides
Author : panglesd
Score : 184 points
Date : 2024-05-29 08:12 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| donalhunt wrote:
| This immediately reminded me of the "infinite" blackboards we had
| in some university lecture theatres such that you could just
| revolve the board surface and keep claiming new writing space
| (you could also write at a consistent level - no bending /
| stretching).
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| Something like this:
| https://www.ragandbonebristol.com/curiosities-1/vintage-wils...
| panglesd wrote:
| Very cool! I had never seen something like that!
|
| Sometimes, I used the analogy of a big papyrus roll (like this
| one: https://pgi-shop.de/en/papyrus-roll-20-x-80-double/) to
| explain what is Slipshow. But your analogy is much better!
| dtjohnnymonkey wrote:
| When I was in college they would use a transparency projector,
| but instead of transparency pages, there would be a roll with a
| crank that you would turn to advanced the roll. You would get
| the same effect as slipshow.
| DowagerDave wrote:
| ...and if they went too fast the hand smudges and wrapping
| would make previous content indecipherable when they rolled
| it back :)
| jaysonelliot wrote:
| What would be the advantages of using Slipshow for a presentation
| over Miro or FigJam?
| panglesd wrote:
| I don't know Miro or Figjam very well, but I would say that:
|
| - You can write a Slipshow presentation in Markdown, which can
| be more convenient than in those collaborative whiteboards
| (depending on the person): the source file is plain text. -
| Slipshow is made for presentations, so it is themed for that:
| the usual ratio for the screen, blocks such as
| example/theorem/definition, titles, ... - It is easy in
| Slipshow to reveal new content/go to a new position by simply
| pressing the "right arrow" key. - The output from Slipshow is a
| single file that you can view offline, send to your audience,
| ...
|
| There might be more differences. For sure, those tools are
| different and adapted to a purpose, or a style of presenting.
| For some kind of presentations, Miro and Figjam might be much
| better than Slipshow!
| SigmundurM wrote:
| Looks cool!
|
| It reminds me a lot of Prezi (https://prezi.com/)
| mrbluecoat wrote:
| I worry this model could lead to a "wall of text" rather than
| forcing the presenter to be concise, speak to the concepts, and
| rely more heavily on images. The format is good for academic
| lecture scenarios but I'd probably just use Jupyter, as noted by
| others.
| panglesd wrote:
| Yes, clearly this is not for every usecase.
|
| I think math lectures often need quite some text support, they
| are the reason I created Slipshow.
| DowagerDave wrote:
| The timing is super important. Writing on a chalk/whiteboard
| or overhead takes time, which is required to absorb the
| content. Hitting the right timing and cues with this approach
| seems like it would take a lot of practice, which isn't a
| deal breaker, though I believe the 2 biggest problems with
| most presentations is too much/too fast content, and not
| enough practice and this approach might make those both
| harder, not easier.
| hamasho wrote:
| I get that it's usually seen as bad practice to write down all
| the points and read from the slides, but honestly, I like that
| style sometimes. My monkey brain gets distracted easily, and I
| often lose track. Having detailed agendas displayed on the
| screen helps me follow along better.
| senkora wrote:
| I especially like it for reading the slides without the
| video. Oftentimes, the slides for a presentation will be
| available but a video recording will not be, and having all
| the information on the slides makes it easier to learn from
| those presentations.
|
| Of course, the "correct" way to do this would be with
| "speakers notes", but those seem to often be stripped off of
| archived presentations for whatever reason.
| ebalit wrote:
| Very cool! It reminds me of Prezi! https://prezi.com
|
| I did an old experiment on a scrollable whiteboard with replay
| that I built after watching a khan academy style video and
| wanting to scroll to back to a formula without pausing the audio.
| This makes me want to dig it back ^^
| verdverm wrote:
| Prezi lost me a PhD co-advisor, this person only liked
| traditional slide formats. In retrospect, this was a good thing
| to not have this person oy board. I used it pretty close to
| traditional slides, but they could not be made happy unless it
| was powerpoint... Separately, I did have a lot of fun making a
| Prezi to explain how GPUs worked for another class, which went
| over swimmingly for a different audience.
|
| I ended up using reveal.js for my defense slides because the 2D
| slide grid allows you to go deep on a subject and keep the main
| flow clean.
| h1fra wrote:
| Nice!
|
| > When using traditional slides, you are given a rectangle of
| white space to express your thought. When this rectangle is full,
| you have no other choice than erasing everything, and start again
| with a new white rectangle.
|
| It's not entirely solving the issue though because you are
| animating everything all the time, you barely have much time to
| see the content
| epiccoleman wrote:
| This is a cool idea! A few years ago I did a (short) presentation
| out of a Notion doc for some radio-related prototyping and the
| format was a hit - scrolling works really well for certain
| topics.
| Shorel wrote:
| Reminds me of Prezi, a lot more than it reminds me of Jupyter
| notebooks.
|
| However, as someone who prefers to create PDF slides using LaTeX
| instead of PowerPoint, I completely prefer a scriptable tool
| instead of a web-based tool.
| beardedwizard wrote:
| This. It's notebooks as presentations and I'll argue there is
| nothing about slides that explicitly prevents you from taking
| this visual approach, but for the case where you want less
| flexibility it could make sense.
| ghaff wrote:
| I like it. Slides are the right approach for a lot of things but
| writing on blackboards and overheads had their own benefits that
| just scrolling a document doesn't really replicate.
|
| As others have noted, you probably need to be cautious about just
| creating a wall of text but I can definitely see its uses.
| 8organicbits wrote:
| The markdown to presentation approach is great. You can manage
| your slide (or slips) as code giving you history, offline
| collaboration, pull requests, etc. I don't think you can do that
| with most other presentation tools. I've used Marp [1] for
| traditional slides, and wrote a GitHub template repo that outputs
| the Marp HTML to GitHub Pages [2]. Similar workflows should be
| possible for Slipshow.
|
| [1] https://marp.app/
|
| [2] https://github.com/ralexander-phi/marp-to-pages
| panglesd wrote:
| Thanks for the link, and the idea! Definitely a github action
| to automatically publish your Slipshow presentation on push
| would be a great workflow! (I'll open an issue for that!)
| jasonpeacock wrote:
| IA Presenter creates slide decks from markdown:
|
| https://ia.net/presenter
| lukaslukas wrote:
| I see a huge markdown fan! I'm on the same page! We're building
| an entire ecosystem for markdown slides for the same reason.
|
| The same design for all slides in the same workspace, a hosted
| version for non-developers, each slide has its own public url
| for easy slide playback, and more ...
|
| Try if you are interested in slidepicker.com (beta)
| Onawa wrote:
| Also, Quarto to reveal.js is an amazing pipeline, and ties in
| well with the rest of the Quarto ecosystem meaning that you can
| reuse content from other mediums more easily.
| klysm wrote:
| Great idea! I think this is a really great way to handle
| especially mathematical expositions.
| alabhyajindal wrote:
| Amazing! Excited to try it out!
| ljouhet wrote:
| Amazing work! Tutorial:
| <https://slipshow.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorial.html>
| mariocesar wrote:
| Nice! I do something similar with Dropbox Paper in presentation
| mode and also with Jupyter notebooks with the presentation
| feature. Of course, without all the extra nice features this has.
| rvba wrote:
| Couldnt the same be done in powerpoint?
|
| If you send it to someone to read it later, do they have to wait
| for all the animations to load? That sounds frustrating.
| vzaliva wrote:
| I think it's a very nice concept, but sometimes when you present,
| you have to use other people's computers, and I am wondering if
| it's possible to generate a PDF from this and use it for
| presentations?
|
| My second thought is that something like this could be made as a
| LaTeX package, similar to Beamer. For scientists, there are many
| benefits to using LaTeX for presentations.
| tomtheelder wrote:
| If I'm understanding it correctly, I think it renders your
| presentation to an html file that you can just open in a
| browser. I assume the effects and transitions are all powered
| by embedded JS. So it should be portable.
| esafak wrote:
| One problem with this format is that it sacrifices referrability.
| But I commend you for rethinking the existing format.
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