[HN Gopher] Happiness
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       Happiness
        
       Author : w_complicated
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2024-05-28 19:16 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | throw0101b wrote:
       | There seem to be three inter-connected things that lead to
       | happiness:
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       | > _One could draw a snap judgment from this analysis and conclude
       | that money, in fact, simply buys happiness. I think that would be
       | the wrong conclusion. Clever sociologists will always find new
       | ways of "calculating" that marriage matters most, or social
       | fitness explains all, or income is paramount. But the subtler
       | truth seems to be that finances, family, and social fitness are
       | three prongs in a happiness trinity. They rise together and fall
       | together. Low-income Americans have seen the largest declines in
       | marriage and experience the most loneliness. High-income
       | Americans marry more and have not only richer investment accounts
       | but also richer social lives. In this light, the philosophical
       | question of what contributes most to happiness is just the
       | beginning. The deeper question is why the trinity of happiness is
       | so stratified by income--and whether well-being in America is in
       | danger of becoming a luxury good._
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       | * https://archive.ph/4ofJ6 /
       | https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/happiness-...
        
       | thriftwy wrote:
       | > In almost all cases we found the inverted version more sound.
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       | Maybe that's why happiness is so hard. So many promising roads
       | leading out.
        
       | popalchemist wrote:
       | > In almost all cases we found the inverted version more sound.
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       | This "insight" depends entirely on the author(s) NOT
       | UNDERSTANDING what is meant by the original quote.
       | 
       | > If you are not happy here and now, you never will be. Taisen
       | Deshimaru
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       | > If you are not happy here and now, you may still be happy in
       | the future. not Taisen Deshimaru
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       | In the original quote, the Zen master is pointing at the idea
       | that you are always in the here and now. Even if, at some other
       | point in time in the future you arrive at happiness, like the
       | second "inverted" quote says, you will still be in the here and
       | now, then.
        
       | jordwest wrote:
       | > In almost all cases we found the inverted version more sound.
       | 
       | Sound as in true? Or sound as in more comfortably fits one's
       | current set of beliefs?
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       | Many of these quotes are getting at the unexamined assumption
       | that happiness can be found anywhere but right here. The point of
       | many of the quotes is introduce some curiosity and question the
       | fundamental assumptions that run your life.
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       | If you are steeped in the mindset of chasing happiness, of never
       | finding it here, and you're simply looking to confirm that, then
       | of course inverting the quotes is going to fit better with your
       | world view. In that case, keep chasing it and chasing it until
       | one day you wake up and realise it never seems to arrive. Then
       | the quotes may hit differently.
        
       | neom wrote:
       | I really love this doc on happiness, it makes me happy, and it's
       | a great watch: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1613092/
        
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