[HN Gopher] Notepad Tab
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Notepad Tab
Author : gamekingro
Score : 33 points
Date : 2024-05-27 21:15 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (notepadtab.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (notepadtab.com)
| behnamoh wrote:
| From the website: "Doesn't use analytics =
| respects your privacy"
|
| Meanwhile, Brave stopped this tracker: https://
| static.cloudflareinsights.com/beacon.min.js/vef91dfe02fce4ee0ad05
| 3f6de4f175db1715022073587
| Dalewyn wrote:
| On a similar token:
|
| >Doesn't use a server = no downtimes
|
| Except there is a server, whatever and wherever it is behind
| notepadtab.com.
| jimbobthrowawy wrote:
| Is there anything in the HTML spec that tells browsers to
| always show a cached version a page if it can't be loaded the
| next time you try to access it?
|
| I think PWAs might have something like that, but haven't
| tested it in a normal browser or tried building one.
| Dalewyn wrote:
| HTML dictates how webpages should be structured and then
| rendered.
|
| You're probably asking about HTTPS, in which case: No. The
| first rule about HTTPS is no caching, because you want to
| validate that what you see is from the server and you can't
| prove that with a cache.
| dntbrsnbl wrote:
| Yeah, you can do something like that with a ServiceWorker -
| it does require some JavaScript though.
|
| https://developer.mozilla.org/en-
| US/docs/Web/Progressive_web...
| etaioinshrdlu wrote:
| Maybe the entire page could be a self-updating data-url?
|
| edit: I tried this and common browser security no longer
| allows this type of thing. 10 years ago it may have worked.
| greyface- wrote:
| Here: data:text/html,<body
| contenteditable oninput="history.replaceState(0,0,'%23'+b
| toa(document.body.innerHTML))" onload="if(location.hash)d
| ocument.body.innerHTML=atob(location.hash.substring(1))">
| #SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==
| TimTheTinker wrote:
| Beautiful. Beat me to it.
|
| Much better than a relying on an HTTP response from
| someone else's computer.
|
| This got me thinking... someone should build an in-
| browser locally hosted library of apps for use cases like
| this. Essentially, apps that are something between
| bookmarklets and Electron apps. I say "in-browser" to
| avoid security pitfalls (e.g. npm supply chain attacks).
| derefr wrote:
| While you might assume that Cloudflare "insights" is an
| advertising/analytics system, this is actually part of
| Cloudflare's anti-DDoS infrastructure. This "beacon" gets
| injected at random on Cloudflare-served HTML pages, to track
| you throughout your use of all Cloudflare-proxied sites, as an
| alternative to an evercookie in building a long-term reputation
| profile of "human browsing" for your browser.
|
| This reputation profile is then used as part of the heuristic
| behind CloudFlare Turnstile's "Are you human?" checkbox.
|
| This is why browsers that have NoScript enabled by default for
| all sites (e.g. Tor Browser), cause Cloudflare-proxied sites to
| throw endless security interstitials and never let you through,
| even when you disable NoScript for the protected website.
| Without reputation-profile data gathered from other sites,
| Cloudflare just sees a fresh browser profile making its first
| connection ever to some obscure site that nobody would ever
| _actually_ visit as the first thing they do on a new computer.
| And so it thinks your browser is a (not-very-clever) bot.
|
| I don't think it's possible for a site owner to opt out of this
| reputation-profile data gathering, while still relying on
| Cloudflare's DDoS protection.
|
| However, I also don't _believe_ that the data Cloudflare
| gathers via this route is sold to third parties. (Someone
| please correct me if that 's wrong.)
| madeofpalk wrote:
| Builds a persistent profile of you across the web... this is
| directly at odds with "Doesn't use analytics = respects your
| privacy"
|
| I'm sure the author isn't aware of it and it's just an
| oversight, but still.
|
| Why does a single static html file even need a CDN?
| gurjeet wrote:
| Neat idea. But it pollutes the browser history with every
| keystroke.
| geor9e wrote:
| It doesn't for me. Looks like they're just changing the html
| anchor (# ...) with a location.replace which isn't a redirect
| so shouldn't spam history.
| timsneath wrote:
| Nice idea. But looks like this is unreliable, with some
| indeterminate cut-off point after which it stops working. I
| created 100 paragraphs of Lorem ipsum which I pasted into the
| textbox. It didn't show any error, but when I pasted the URL into
| a different window, the textbox just shows 'undefined'.
| jayski wrote:
| This is basically encoding(base64?) the <textarea> and putting it
| in the URL.
|
| Its a neat idea, but I think theres a limit to how long URLs can
| be.
| sanchez_0_lam wrote:
| Ouch, that's bad :D Won't store too long texts.
| baliex wrote:
| It is at least compressed to make the most of the limit
| jsheard wrote:
| Seems you can push it pretty far, I pasted in the entire
| John Galt speech (183,742 characters) for a laugh and
| Chrome had no issue with the length of the resulting URL.
| Though the URL is still 83,638 characters long so people
| would probably object to you pasting it into the group chat
| for more reasons besides it being the John Galt speech.
| JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote:
| IIRC in theory it's 2048 characters, but in practice it's 2000
| (at least in Chrome a few years ago when I toyed with Google
| Maps for food).
| hobs wrote:
| It's actually much longer, I was implementing a javascript
| bookmarklet and the old published limitations are not
| respected by much anymore, so you can shove a LOT of data in
| there.
| sanchez_0_lam wrote:
| Any thoughts how this works under the hood? Like @gurjeet said,
| every keystroke is a new url. But then how all this is stored?
| Will it scale? :D
| skulk wrote:
| It's stored in your history stack. I spent 15 seconds pressing
| the back button slowly becoming more and more horrified as I
| watched my characters disappear one by one.
|
| You can see how it works for yourself by opening your browser
| devtools, opening the JS console, and typing
| window.location.hash = "test"
|
| You should see a "#test" pop up at the end of your URL.
| Pressing back will not change the page, but will make that go
| away.
| geor9e wrote:
| I made a very similar notepad tab. Only me and my girlfriend use
| it (since I don't market it or anything) but we've been using it
| constantly every day for about a year. I'm surprised it's not a
| default function of browsers to be honest - new tabs are such
| wasted space. Basically, every tab is the same document, it saves
| to the browser's cache locally so you don't lose anything when
| you close the browser. https://github.com/gth001/George-s-Notes-
| Tab-Extension
| nabaraz wrote:
| Neat concept but pollutes the browser history and maximum length
| of 2048 characters defeats the purpose.
|
| Can we use svg instead?
| codazoda wrote:
| I created Ponder, which does something similar. Mine was inspired
| by the Alpha Smart, so it has 10 "files" and it saves to local
| storage, so it might not be loss proof, but I use it as a scratch
| pad and it works quite well.
|
| https://github.com/codazoda/ponder
| sergiotapia wrote:
| it pollutes the back button
| PowerfulWizard wrote:
| Here's what I use (as a bookmark):
| data:text/html,<body contenteditable style="line-height:1.5;font-
| size:20px;">
|
| No save function obviously but this lets me open a new tab and
| dump some text.
| wesamco wrote:
| Nice! I bookmarked it and I'm gonna start using it, thank you.
|
| For a quick and dirty save, you can press Ctrl+P to open the
| print window/dialog and select "Save as PDF", or you can press
| Ctrl+S and save as a single HTML file.
| zX41ZdbW wrote:
| I did almost the same project, but better, two years ago:
| https://pastila.nl/
|
| https://github.com/ClickHouse/pastila
| zX41ZdbW wrote:
| It's better because it minimizes the UI. You get the same
| experience as in the text editor, such as Notepad or Kate, with
| no fluff.
| rpastuszak wrote:
| Hehe, that's one of the reasons I made write.sonnet.io a few
| years back. It's a never-ending strip of paper/stream of
| consciousness.
| chongli wrote:
| Cool concept but I would never use it. It's an archetypal example
| of the web being the champion of "worse is better." I am happy
| with just taking notes in a local text file using a text editor.
| This is not a complicated problem to solve.
|
| Save notes by copying and pasting the URL? Why not just copy and
| paste the text itself? I don't need formatting in my notes.
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