[HN Gopher] Coke can planimeter
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       Coke can planimeter
        
       Author : lambdatronics
       Score  : 66 points
       Date   : 2024-05-24 06:28 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | 082349872349872 wrote:
       | My favourite field-improvised planimeter consists of (a) tracing
       | out the figures and cutting them out of paper, then (b) weighing
       | the paper shapes with an analytical balance and dividing out by
       | the weight of a unit area's worth of paper.
        
         | emmelaich wrote:
         | Not surprisingly, this technique is used for numerical
         | integration of complex graphs.
        
         | mensetmanusman wrote:
         | My advisor's thesis had an entire section on that for computing
         | complex integrals.
        
         | lupire wrote:
         | That's Galileo's method of integration.
        
       | mauvehaus wrote:
       | I can't pass up this opportunity to mention "How Round is Your
       | Circle". It's nerd shit about geometry applied to, among other
       | things, steam engines.
       | 
       | There's a chapter or three about planimeters, the introduction to
       | which is the hatchet planimeter.
       | 
       | Worth a read if you're into geometry and Industrial Revolution
       | stuff, and honestly, probably worth working through with pencil
       | and paper, though I never have.
        
         | theyinwhy wrote:
         | I can't pass the opportunity to post https://neal.fun/perfect-
         | circle/
        
           | jasomill wrote:
           | Nice. After five minutes: 95.6% with a mouse; 96.2% with a
           | Wacom tablet; trackpad (Apple Magic 2), hopeless.
           | 
           | As for opportunistically relevant posting: see the first
           | chapter of Felix Klein's _Elementary Mathematics from an
           | Advanced Standpoint: Geometry_ [1] for a bit on the geometric
           | theory behind the planimeter.
           | 
           | [1]
           | https://archive.org/details/elementary_mathematics_geometry/
        
       | ggm wrote:
       | 3 bar linkage computing by Svoboda. MIT rad labs, ww2. Cams and
       | drums did a lot of work plotting bomb angle, gunnery, rate of
       | descent.
        
         | foehrenwald wrote:
         | Computing Mechanisms and Linkages By Antonin Svoboda
         | https://archive.org/details/computingmechani00anto
         | 
         | "He shows that with two basic mechanisms, the harmonic
         | transformer and the three-bar linkage, it is possible to
         | perform the fundamental operations of arithmetic, addition,
         | subtraction, multiplication and division, and to generate
         | ballistic functions." - JOHN WOMERSLEY
         | (https://www.nature.com/articles/162085a0.pdf)
        
       | ulnarkressty wrote:
       | An experiment from an old physics textbook: trace a convex shape
       | on a piece of paper, wet its contour with a brush and drip some
       | water on it until it beads up. You then place the paper on a
       | still water surface and touch the surface of the bead with a
       | needle. The surface tension will move the shape under the needle
       | until it points at the geometric center of the shape.
        
         | itronitron wrote:
         | Am I correct in thinking that the wet contour is made within
         | the boundaries of the convex shape?
        
       | ithkuil wrote:
       | I always trip on the ability of English has to turn nouns into
       | verbs so after my first parse of the sentence I thought "w.t.f
       | does the verb to planimeter mean?". Then I realized that "can" is
       | not a verb here....
        
         | lupire wrote:
         | Right. Coke can can planimeter
         | 
         | What's the difference between a piano and a fish?
         | 
         | You can tune a piano, but you can tuna fish.
        
           | rahimnathwani wrote:
           | You can tune a file system, but you cannot tune a fish.
        
         | toast0 wrote:
         | I mean, we verb nouns all the time, but this is just a homonym,
         | can and can are different words that sound and spell the same.
        
           | ithkuil wrote:
           | Yes I was referring to the verbing of "planimeter" which
           | wasn't
        
         | HPsquared wrote:
         | Proper capitalization would have made it clearer.
        
         | veloxo wrote:
         | "Coke can" is a phrasal adjective here and ought to be
         | hyphenated, which removes the ambiguity: "Coke-can planimeter"
        
           | ajb wrote:
           | I don't think that's mandatory.
           | 
           | Noun phrases can be arbitrarily long in English and don't
           | require connecting words or hyphens. This can be very
           | confusing to people whose first language doesn't have this
           | feature. Classic example: "Heathrow airport customer car
           | park", a five word noun phrase (IE, noun noun noun noun noun)
           | that native speakers find completely normal.
        
       | NegativeLatency wrote:
       | This YouTube channel is worth a peek if you find physical
       | computation interesting: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisStaecker
        
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