[HN Gopher] Worklenz: Open-Source, All in one project management...
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       Worklenz: Open-Source, All in one project management tool
        
       Author : thunderbong
       Score  : 74 points
       Date   : 2024-05-18 10:08 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | sixhobbits wrote:
       | Looks nice but it is missing clarity on the pricing page about if
       | the premium features are also open source or not, or is this open
       | core?
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       | https://worklenz.com/pricing/
        
         | jorams wrote:
         | It's licensed under the AGPL, they welcome pull requests and
         | don't seem to require a CLA, so open core is not really
         | possible.
        
           | 2Gkashmiri wrote:
           | no no. the question is, pricing page says under pro
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           | - Everything in free plan - Resource management - Advanced
           | project reporting - Track team members' progress - Reports
           | exporting
           | 
           | are these available in agpl self-hosted version or not?
        
             | jorams wrote:
             | What I'm saying is that they will have to be as soon as
             | they accept an external contribution. The code they accept
             | will be licensed under the AGPL by the contributor. A
             | hosted-only version including both the contribution and
             | hosted-only features would be a derived work, and thus
             | require source disclosure under the terms of the AGPL.
             | 
             | (It is possible to keep stuff out of the "standard"
             | distribution and only disclose when asked, but that seems
             | like a whole lot of effort to maintain two identically
             | licensed code bases.)
        
               | roywashere wrote:
               | I worked for a company that had a GPLed product and
               | provided services around it. Then they got scared that a
               | big company might steal the product and SAAS it. Then
               | they changed to AGPL. Then they figured selling add ons
               | and hosting could be good business. By necessity our
               | plugins were AGPL. Our customers could have put our
               | plugins on GitHub but no one ever did (and there were
               | hundreds!!!)
        
           | remram wrote:
           | Is it? Where are the sources?
        
             | jorams wrote:
             | I'm not sure what to tell you other than to click on the
             | submission link, which goes straight to the GitHub
             | repository containing the source code.
        
               | remram wrote:
               | Weird, somehow I was on their website, and couldn't find
               | a link to GitHub. I wonder if I followed another link
               | from here and assumed it was the submitted one. Sorry and
               | thanks.
        
       | ngetchell wrote:
       | Once this has docker installation support, I'll give it a go.
        
         | zufallsheld wrote:
         | There are docker files in the front end and backend folders:htt
         | ps://github.com/Worklenz/worklenz/blob/main/worklenz-fron...
        
       | dbingham wrote:
       | This looks the exact same as every other project management tool
       | out there. What differentiates this?
       | 
       | Project Management is an incredibly crowded space.
        
         | dewey wrote:
         | Just like to-do list apps, everyone thinks the solution to not
         | being productive is a technical one.
        
           | janwillemb wrote:
           | And sw engineers feel very productive building a productivity
           | tool, which is just an elaborate procrastination technique
           | for sw developers.
        
         | Scipio_Afri wrote:
         | What are the top open source told would you say that compete
         | with this?
        
           | bogwog wrote:
           | There was another one on the front page recently called Plane
           | (https://plane.so)
        
           | remram wrote:
           | OpenProject, Taiga, Redmine, Focalboard, Plane, ...
           | 
           | Plus all the "knowledge management" apps (Affine, ...) plus
           | all the project hosting platforms (GitLab, Gitea, ...)
        
         | j45 wrote:
         | So crowded
         | 
         | And still not universally solved
         | 
         | Maybe generally but details don't get handled well
        
           | RussianCow wrote:
           | Maybe because there is no universal solution? Different teams
           | work in different ways and I don't believe one tool can solve
           | for all of them effectively without being mediocre at best
           | for all or most use cases. (Jira comes to mind.) You're
           | better off using simple, opinionated software that fits the
           | way your team works.
        
             | fellowniusmonk wrote:
             | I tend to think that the underlying issue is that
             | collaborative/group planning software usually isn't
             | starting from first principles but is just a list of
             | attributes people think they need or that are
             | memetic/familiar.
             | 
             | Based on my experience I think a universal solution will
             | have a starting point in the individual and will evolve
             | from something like obsidian or emacs (but it will probably
             | never evolve from a consumer hostile community/platform
             | like emacs)... and will eventually be akin to a full OS
             | replacement.
             | 
             | For any given universal interface you have to make it
             | extensible, interoperable and personal (for some given
             | definition of personal) and no software organized around a
             | group can get there without a fundemental rework.
             | 
             | Honestly, I think for large commercial players (products
             | like MacOs) it's more likely for us to get there after AI
             | conversational interfaces are fully synthesized and OS' are
             | fundementally reevaluated for production after they lose
             | their relevance in other general computing ways.
        
             | lowkey wrote:
             | The best highly-opinionated product management (not project
             | management) alternative to Jira is Linear.app - it is sooo
             | good I can't begin to do it justice.
        
       | walteweiss wrote:
       | Seeing .DS_Store in a git repository shows so much, I don't know
       | if any other comment after that is even necessary.
        
       | mukundesh wrote:
       | Does it have Gantt chart ?
        
       | rcleveng wrote:
       | I hope the secrets were updated after being removed.
        
       | nobrains wrote:
       | So, we have got the following project management software
       | (including worklenz.com) on HN main page in the last 48 hours:
       | 
       | - https://plane.so/
       | 
       | - https://www.openproject.org/
       | 
       | - https://worklenz.com/
        
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