[HN Gopher] On hoot, on boot
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       On hoot, on boot
        
       Author : davexunit
       Score  : 78 points
       Date   : 2024-05-16 21:18 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | nanomonkey wrote:
       | Is it me, or was there an attempt to inject words that rhyme with
       | hoot in every sentence?
       | 
       | But more to the point, I absolutely love how well Hoot works,
       | I've been playing with it for the last month and plan on doing
       | the next Lisp game jam with it.
        
         | saagarjha wrote:
         | An astute observation that would be hard to dispute.
        
           | Filligree wrote:
           | Reading this was definitely a hoot.
        
             | morkalork wrote:
             | Well ain't that just cute.
        
               | seanhunter wrote:
               | like you have a horn to toot, Or perhaps a flute?
        
         | euroderf wrote:
         | Second paragraph, the only candidate is "about", so I guess the
         | writer is Canadian.
        
       | jauntywundrkind wrote:
       | Side note but it is sad as hell that arguments.callee is gone (in
       | esm, a long with arguments in general), which was such an
       | excellent way for functions to take whatever bindings it has &
       | turn them into accessors. I miss like hell the JS world where
       | functions could easily show off some internals.
       | function add(a) {             return a + arguments.callee.amount
       | }         add.amount = 2         console.log(add(2)) // => 4
       | 
       | (In this simple eread-only example _arguments.callee_ could be be
       | replaced with _add_ , but if one is doing inline function
       | definitions or other cases that's not possible.)
       | 
       | And that was something devs explicitly had to do in their
       | libraries! But in guile there's some automatic capability to
       | expose your bindings.
       | 
       | > _Guile programs can use first-class accessors on the module
       | systems to pull out bindings._
       | 
       | In general, I strongly feel like the ability for the language to
       | let developers explore the bindings is like "the" missing piece
       | of programming language systems, is one of the primary gates to
       | good metaprogramming ever emerging. I wish the runtime would be
       | observable.
        
         | LegionMammal978 wrote:
         | You can still emulate this to an extent with a wrapper
         | function:                 function selfBind(f) {
         | return function g(...args) {               return f.call(this,
         | g, ...args);           };       }              let add =
         | selfBind(function (callee, a) {           return a +
         | callee.amount;       });       add.amount = 2;       /* ... */
         | 
         | Though obviously it isn't quite as straightforward as
         | 'arguments.callee'.
        
         | e12e wrote:
         | COMEFROM considered harmful?
        
       | Turing_Machine wrote:
       | Hoot looks awesome, but I've yet to get past the initial hurdle
       | of screwing around with guix. Frankly, I need another package
       | manager like I need a hole in the head.
       | 
       | It really needs someone to give other package managers some love
       | (Homebrew, apt, rpm...)
        
         | tripleo1 wrote:
         | Not actually true, those pm's need to be reimplemented in
         | nix/scheme.
         | 
         | But I get your point.
        
       | candeira wrote:
       | Cute!
        
       | riffraff wrote:
       | could someone explain the difference between r6rs modules and
       | guile modules? I may have been distracted by the cute
       | alliteration.
       | 
       | Is the difference that you can literally fetch some name defined
       | in a module at runtime vs it being a purely static thing a-la C
       | includes?
        
       | fatcow wrote:
       | Woot. JavaScript will be moot.
        
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