[HN Gopher] Aggregating all cinema showtimes in Germany with Clo...
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       Aggregating all cinema showtimes in Germany with Clojure
        
       Author : zonotope
       Score  : 99 points
       Date   : 2024-05-15 14:40 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | Tomte wrote:
       | > It's a website that shows every movie screening in every cinema
       | across the entire Germany.
       | 
       | Nope. The first two towns I tried (with cinemas, and not far from
       | his example Hannover) were missing. The third town I tried: also
       | missing.
       | 
       | I think it's obvious that there are more than the maybe 300
       | cinemas shown on the web page in all of Germany.
        
         | JaggerJo wrote:
         | The first two I checked are also missing.
        
       | shaunxcode wrote:
       | Glorious. I vote for IMDB to be deshitified next!
        
         | flotzam wrote:
         | https://github.com/digitalblossom/alternative-frontends#imdb
        
       | bun_terminator wrote:
       | but you still can't see where a particular movie is playing (not
       | just in your city), which would be the entire point
        
         | dewey wrote:
         | Is the use case of "people who are looking for a city to drive
         | to to watch a movie" really that big?
        
           | toast0 wrote:
           | Seems like it would be useful for movies that are in limited
           | release.
        
           | bowsamic wrote:
           | "to drive to"? This is Germany, we have (very unreliable)
           | public transport :)
        
           | bun_terminator wrote:
           | Yes. I live in the Ruhrgebiet, which is essentially a giant
           | area of mid-sized cities, connected by a fantastic train
           | network. The time to a neighbor city cinema is more or less
           | the same than to my own. And I was looking for a place that
           | plays the english version of LOTR for years now.
        
       | ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
       | > No ChatGPT/SEO generated bullshit.
       | 
       | Amen.
        
       | fewald_net wrote:
       | I know it says no SEO, but you could actually create preview
       | pictures for movies so that when a link gets shared the showtimes
       | show up directly in iMessage or any other messaging platform. Of
       | course only relevant until the showtimes change.
        
       | fareesh wrote:
       | is it viable to build a product on top of scraping?
       | 
       | seems like unpredictably any day you could find yourself out of
       | sync or with no data because of infrequent crawls or dom changes
       | or bot challenges and then you have to play cat and mouse
        
         | dewey wrote:
         | There's entire industries built on top of scraping, something
         | changes, you adapt. In this case where the data is actually
         | used to drive more traffic to the cinemas there will be little
         | protection. Very different to Linkedin protecting their user
         | submitted data as that's their value.
        
       | dewey wrote:
       | There's APIs like https://www.internationalshowtimes.com that
       | give you all that data for many countries. Have used it in the
       | past and it works well, with direct booking deeplinks to the
       | cinemas (select seat, next, pay, done).
        
         | input_sh wrote:
         | Do you know of any user-facing service using that API under the
         | hood?
         | 
         | I'm shocked to see my country included, but not shocked enough
         | to pay at least EUR150/month for the privilege.
        
           | dewey wrote:
           | There's a list of apps and sites that use is here (the
           | horizontal scrolling bit):
           | https://www.internationalshowtimes.com/showtimes-api
        
       | idlephysicist wrote:
       | Who else noticed the pointers websocket for displaying the mouse
       | pointers of other readers?
        
         | cyberlimerence wrote:
         | I hate that for some reason. Feels intrusive in a weird way to
         | me.
        
       | woodylondon wrote:
       | This is amazing! Have the same problem in the UK - would love a
       | site like this.
        
       | tschumacher wrote:
       | Congrats for building such a great site. I'm curious where OP is
       | pulling the data from. I particularly like the Citydome [1] in
       | Darmstadt, which is often showing movies in original language.
       | 
       | [1]: https://allekinos.de/?city=Darmstadt&cinema=Citydome
        
       | WA wrote:
       | Ok, but a very interesting part is missing: how did you scrape
       | the data in the first place?
        
         | spapas82 wrote:
         | That's the big elephant in the room... I read the whole article
         | trying to find out where he gets the data from but no mention
         | of that.
        
       | msavio wrote:
       | Niki, this is amazing, thank you for that!
       | 
       | I just discovered they play Terminator 2 at Babylon Berlin
       | tonight, thinking of going there, always wanted to see that on a
       | big screen :)
       | 
       | It seems like your list is not showing "OV", "OVmU" correctly at
       | Babylon. Both Terminator 2
       | (https://babylonberlin.eu/programm/festivals/scifi/7199-scifi...)
       | and the mentioned Matrix
       | (https://babylonberlin.eu/programm/festivals/scifi/7192-scifi...)
       | there are OVmU according to their website, but that doesn't show
       | in your list. I guess the data is provided wrongly.
       | 
       | As someone who only watches OV with (if not English or German)
       | English or German subtitles I would love to have one thing which
       | movie theatres don't get: A filter for "OV" (Original Version).
       | Thing is, they "have" it, but they exclude german OV's for a
       | reason I don't understand.
       | 
       | Example: Go to https://www.cinecitta.de/, and check the movie
       | screenings. You'll find "Andrea lasst sich scheiden", an Austrian
       | movie with original audio in German. But as soon as you go to the
       | menu and select "Original Versions + OmU" they don't show it
       | anymore, even though it is OV! I don't get that.
       | 
       | So, my wish, Niki: Can you identify original German movies played
       | in German as "OV" as well?
        
         | croisillon wrote:
         | and apropos Austria... could you add it to the website?
        
       | giovannibonetti wrote:
       | I wonder which DB is hosting all the data. My first pick would be
       | Clickhouse, which should shine with all the data denormalized in
       | a single table.
        
         | fnordsensei wrote:
         | The article says Datascript.
         | https://github.com/tonsky/datascript
        
       | Xplune13 wrote:
       | Hey, this is really cool and helpful.
       | 
       | I recently arrived in Germany and movie/cinema aggregation is a
       | huge issue and a hassle tbh, so I'll be using this frequently.
       | 
       | A suggestion, if I may, is to add language of the movie if
       | possbile? It'd be great if there's any way to fetch that info and
       | display it directly on your website instead of visiting every
       | multiplex website to check it.
       | 
       | Either way, thank you for this!
        
         | akie wrote:
         | In Germany they use these abbreviations for that:
         | 
         | OV = Original Version
         | 
         | OmU = Originalfassung mit Untertitel (original with German
         | subtitles)
         | 
         | DF = Deutsche Fassung (German version)
         | 
         | OmeU = Originalversion mit englischsprachigen Untertiteln
         | (original with English subtitles)
        
           | Xplune13 wrote:
           | Oh, ok. Didn't know about that. Thanks for the info!
           | 
           | But, I still think that it needs some more clarity. Does a
           | film listing not having any of these abbreviations default to
           | German audio?
           | 
           | Just a few things of this sort.
        
             | VonGallifrey wrote:
             | > Does a film listing not having any of these abbreviations
             | default to German audio?
             | 
             | In my experience, yes. The default is German without
             | subtitles. I have seen the OV and OmU abbreviations a lot
             | of times, but most showtimes don't have anything listed
             | which will mean German.
        
             | TillE wrote:
             | Yes, unfortunately the default is German dubbing. If it
             | doesn't say OV or OmU, that's absolutely what you're
             | getting.
        
       | Arjuna144 wrote:
       | This is nifty! I like it a lot. Would be nice, if smaller cities
       | are also included... I am missing "Detmold" for example
        
       | rafram wrote:
       | Google already supports this. No extra clicks or ad
       | interstitials. Just search "<place name> movie showtimes" or
       | "<movie name> showtimes". It works for every town I tried in
       | Germany.
        
         | tonsky wrote:
         | Yeah, except that it shows like only 20 movies and 4 showtimes.
         | I want to see everything
        
       | Archelaos wrote:
       | > It's a website that shows every movie screening in every cinema
       | across the entire Germany.
       | 
       | > And when I say EVERY screening, I mean it:
       | 
       | Well, I checked Heidelberg and only "Die Kamera" (1 screen) and
       | "Gloria" (2 screens) are listed, but "Karlstorkino" (1 screen)
       | and "Luxor" (6 screens) are missing. So for Heidelberg the site
       | covers only 30% of all screens.
       | 
       | The "Luxor" in Walldorf seems to be missing too.
       | 
       | I have not checked any other cities.
        
       | philshem wrote:
       | I found an entry for a city in Germany that I'm pretty sure
       | doesn't exist:
       | 
       | https://allekinos.de/?city=Bielefeld
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_conspiracy
        
       | elschneider wrote:
       | Nice effort and for a second I thought you had fixed a problem I
       | had, that most cinemas in my hometown have their own shitty sites
       | and hence their screening times can not be discovered through
       | Google, but turns out despite your bold claim this is not the
       | case. Unfortunately there is no mention of any of the admittedly
       | small cinemas in Tubingen. Your idea is still brilliant and I
       | would very much appreciate if it worked as intended
        
         | tonsky wrote:
         | Damn Tubingen! You are the _third_ person who tells me about
         | it! I'll find a better source soon, hold on
        
       | BryantD wrote:
       | Nice!
       | 
       | I built https://seattle-movies.innocence.com/ out of similar
       | motivations, although I limited my focus to arthouse/indie movie
       | theaters. I also produce an .ics calendar feed which for me is
       | the most useful feature; I like scanning upcoming movies on a
       | calendar app I already use all the time.
       | 
       | No DB under the hood, just a nightly scrape and process. Works
       | fine. Sometimes the format changes and updates break until I fix
       | them; not a big deal and the code is available in case I ever get
       | bored.
       | 
       | https://github.com/BryantD/film-calendar for the curious. It's
       | intended to be easy to adapt to another city.
        
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