[HN Gopher] Cyberattack forces US health care network to divert ...
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       Cyberattack forces US health care network to divert ambulances from
       hospitals
        
       Author : arkadiyt
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2024-05-12 16:59 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.cnn.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.cnn.com)
        
       | labrador wrote:
       | Since there are state actors attemting to sow public disorder in
       | the U.S. it seems increasingly like a bad idea to have hosptital
       | networks and the like on public networks accessible from around
       | the globe.
        
         | blackeyeblitzar wrote:
         | If these are state actors, then the US state needs to grow a
         | backbone and treat these as an actual act of war. China,
         | Russia, and the like need to face serious consequences or they
         | will only go further.
        
           | salad-tycoon wrote:
           | Many of us would like to not get blown up and to not blow up
           | other random strangers.
           | 
           | It's easy to say an eye for an eye but I think if you've seen
           | enough shell shock / ptsd the taste for war becomes bitter,
           | although in the pre conception/ fantasy phase the taste is
           | powerfully sweet and titillating.
           | 
           | Also, things tend to accelerate as they get towards the end.
           | So Oceania does X to us, we have to do x+y, then they do
           | x+y+z and on and on as overt escalation is normalized.
           | 
           | Serious consequences swings both ways. Maybe, just maybe,
           | there could be another way rather than getting shaken up and
           | angry.
           | 
           | I don't want my kids at the bottom of a ruble heap. I don't
           | won't yours there either.
        
             | ethanwillis wrote:
             | I think it's easy to say this when you're not needing
             | healthcare and another nation state has made your local
             | hospital unusable.
             | 
             | edit: and parent comment never said consequences would be
             | war.
        
             | libertine wrote:
             | So your suggestion is to shrug it off, and allow this
             | behavior to continue.
             | 
             | Like what happened with flight MH17, where Russia killed
             | 300 people, just send a very tough letter.
        
             | nitwit005 wrote:
             | It's meaningless to say you don't like violence when you
             | can't suggest an alternative.
        
           | jart wrote:
           | The U.S. doesn't even consider it a crime. Read
           | https://rewardsforjustice.net/rewards/foreign-malicious-
           | cybe... and notice how the USG only cares if the hackers are
           | acting under the direction of a foreign government. These
           | days ransomware is about as illegal as corporate raiding and
           | short selling.
        
           | nradov wrote:
           | Official US government statement: "When warranted, we will
           | respond to hostile attacks in cyberspace as we would to any
           | other threat to our country. We reserve the right to use all
           | necessary means - diplomatic, informational, military and
           | economic - to defend our nation, our allies, our partners and
           | our interests."
           | 
           | https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7AF02Y/
           | 
           | The problem is attribution. If a cyber attack is traced to an
           | IP address in Russia it's almost impossible to know for
           | certain that it was really sponsored by the Russian
           | government. It could have been some random kid in Australia
           | who pwned a vulnerable computer in Russia and used it to
           | launch an attack for the lulz.
           | 
           | Since deterrence is ineffective for cyber defense we need to
           | put our focus into hardening critical systems.
        
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