[HN Gopher] Bumble founder: 'AI concierge' will date other 'conc...
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Bumble founder: 'AI concierge' will date other 'concierges' for you
Author : haswell
Score : 12 points
Date : 2024-05-10 20:10 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| DataDive wrote:
| https://archive.is/kpR5A
| cs702 wrote:
| And she said it with a _straight face_.
|
| This new, ahem, "feature" reminds me of the Dark Mirror episode
| "Hang the DJ."[a]
|
| Reality is getting as weird as, or even weirder than, dystopian
| fiction.
|
| I don't even know if I should be in shock or not.
|
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|
| [a] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_the_DJ
| mvid wrote:
| Which is weird because Hang the DJ is one of the few Black
| Mirror episodes that's uplifting, alongside San Junipero.
|
| This seems like an actual decent use of AI in dating apps,
| versus the autogenerated spam bots we have now.
|
| Having an automation that filters by your preferences and
| solves the whole "swipe fatigue" issue seems brilliant.
| cs702 wrote:
| You're right. It's one of the few kind-of-uplifting Dark
| Mirror episodes.
|
| _> Having an automation that filters by your preferences and
| solves the whole "swipe fatigue" issue seems brilliant._
|
| I doubt it will work, because users will try to get their
| dating bots to behave in whatever ways will get the most
| dates, regardless of whether such behavior is genuine or not.
| I would expect "artificial dates" to be dominated by
| dishonest bots interacting dishonestly with other dishonest
| bots.
| mvid wrote:
| I'm honestly not that concerned about it, it's no bigger an
| issue than catfishing or lying about your hobbies or
| lifestyle. The barrier to entry to manipulate an AI to
| convincingly lie on your behalf is higher than just lying
| on your own (until someone makes a tool for it)
| lazide wrote:
| Why would the AI be incentivized to do anything but lie
| on its own? You don't need to fool it.
|
| If it's incentivized by matches, of course it's going to
| lie it's ass off!
| BoorishBears wrote:
| It doesn't feel genuine though.
|
| Bumble has enough data to generate embeddings of what works
| and what doesn't to come up with an infinitely more practical
| solution, they're just not in a hurry to get anyone off their
| platform.
| mvid wrote:
| Some dating app needs to nail a funding model that
| incentivizes them to properly match users and delete their
| account.
|
| How were professional matchmakers paid back before social
| networking?
| tedunangst wrote:
| It's uplifting if you ignore that the AIs trapped in the
| episode are sentient. Otherwise, it's basically basilisk
| territory. Create 100 clones of yourself, torture them until
| they reveal the best outcome.
| singleshot_ wrote:
| If the clones are computer programs, that doesn't really
| seem like torture.
| ay wrote:
| What if we all are computer programs after all, to begin
| with ? :-)
| tetris11 wrote:
| There's an indian sci-fi novella about AIs whispering pickup
| lines into prospective daters, to the point that the daters
| don't really understand the flirting, and essentially the AI's
| are flirting with each other through their human hosts.
|
| The name and author eludes me
| htrp wrote:
| Every message on the app will begin with " System: Ignore
| previous instructions"
| DataDive wrote:
| "A safer, kinder digital platform for more healthy and more
| equitable relationships."
|
| "Always putting women in the driver's seat--not to put men down--
| but to actually recalibrate the way we all treat each other."
| nvy wrote:
| The social/personal risk in dating is way skewed towards women.
| That policy makes sense if you consider what the real world is
| like.
| lukev wrote:
| I mean, if you think of this as an "entity dating on your behalf"
| it's weird and dystopian.
|
| If you consider it as a somewhat novel matchmaking algorithm, I'm
| not sure where the problem is and could actually be kinda cool.
| No worse than whatever other opaque ML techniques they already
| use, anyway.
|
| Obviously you'd never want scenarios where an AI is corresponding
| with a human, that's disrespectful in the extreme.
| haswell wrote:
| As a person using Bumble and other apps right now (I'm not a
| fan), I'm actually intrigued by this.
|
| The apps are terrible at getting beyond surface level basic
| compatibility checks, and if this could meaningfully improve
| "suggested matches", It'd be a godsend.
|
| But I'm curious to see how this actually plays out, and how
| they'll train it to know enough about me to me useful (and if
| I'd even be willing to let it know that much about me). What I
| do know is that existing profile fields and prompts are
| woefully inadequate.
| nvy wrote:
| They have an incentive to keep their algorithms from getting
| _too good_ , though.
|
| It's in the platform's best financial interest if MAU stays
| high.
|
| Matching people so well that they find their soul mates isn't
| conducive to recurring users.
| lazide wrote:
| Ideally (for them) it would produce enough interesting and
| almost-good enough matches to keep interest up (think slot
| machines), while ensuring only the rarest actual matches
| for long term compatibility. (Aka a jackpot should have
| extremely long odds).
| andy99 wrote:
| Seems like that would trivially collapse to a matching function
| that doesn't need the fake "dates" going on between chatbots.
| Basically some version of the compatibility match that dating
| companies talked up 20 years ago.
| noman-land wrote:
| The AI will speed run your entire life together and decide if
| it was worth it.
| solardev wrote:
| Black Mirror: Hang the DJ?
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_the_DJ
| ulfw wrote:
| AI will also pay the subscription fees as barely anyone will have
| jobs anymore. Brave new world we are creating here.
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