[HN Gopher] NSO vs. Citizen Lab: U.S. Court Battles over Pegasus...
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       NSO vs. Citizen Lab: U.S. Court Battles over Pegasus Spyware
       Investigations
        
       Author : clwg
       Score  : 33 points
       Date   : 2024-05-10 14:28 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (theintercept.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (theintercept.com)
        
       | Ahmd72 wrote:
       | Shouldn't this lead to a broader question of whether spyware
       | should be allowed to be sold to governments? Especially
       | repressive ones which will obviously use it for nefarious
       | reasons?
        
         | dlachausse wrote:
         | I'm not a lawyer, but at least in the United States at the
         | minimum probable cause and a warrant should be required prior
         | to their use per the 4th Amendment...
         | 
         | "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
         | papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and
         | seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue,
         | but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and
         | particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
         | persons or things to be seized."
        
         | dunekid wrote:
         | Which government would qualify as repressive though? Pegasus is
         | made in a place, where apartheid is the norm. The only
         | qualifying criteria for that regime is if the other government
         | is against them or not? And would they give pretty penny for
         | it?
        
         | JumpCrisscross wrote:
         | How would you define spyware in a way that doesn't require
         | state approval to have overseas users for any application or
         | service?
        
       | bingleboy wrote:
       | I'm half of the mind that the intercept like a lot of other
       | generic mainstream "alternative" news outlets just exists to
       | depersonalize or frustrate anyone that can see through their
       | shoddy reporting.
        
         | Georgelemental wrote:
         | The Intercept has gone through a lot of drama lately:
         | https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/why-im-resigning-from-the-...
        
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