[HN Gopher] English learners can now practice speaking on Google...
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English learners can now practice speaking on Google Search
Author : teleforce
Score : 55 points
Date : 2024-05-08 21:09 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| Vox_Leone wrote:
| Additional data points. Now Google also knows your vocal profile
| and any subtle stress factors -- or lack thereof -- emerging in
| the context of each topic/theme used in your practicing, as well
| as your proficiency level and your learning rate. Not bad.
| duringmath wrote:
| And what's the commercial application of all this stressed
| syllable data?
| cafed00d wrote:
| That's a bit too cynical. I agree the nefarious data guzzler of
| an ad machine is siphoning up that voice data but hey if that's
| all they wanted they had Google Fi/Voice etc.
|
| This definitely seems like a Google building products people
| will love. Let's just hope they don't kill it in 2
| days/weeks/months/years
| lxgr wrote:
| Really cool, but why on earth is this in Google Search and not
| Translate?!
| nicce wrote:
| To get wider audience? Don't know why they want that. Some
| audio data collecting?
| lupire wrote:
| Search, Assistant, Google, Gemini, ... It's all gSiri
| notarealllama wrote:
| "Do one thing well", a common Linux design philosophy, was
| blatantly ignored here. Search is not the place for this,
| sibling comment is likely right about trying to reach wider
| audience.
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| Claude.ai and chatGPT have become my go to for translation over
| Google Translate, they provide better idiomatic context. They
| aren't perfect for code, but I can chat with them in target
| languages (outside of English) and they're pretty fluent.
| jeffbee wrote:
| Better question is why the Google app exists. It's just a
| platform for kitchen sink projects that they could not be
| bothered to wrap a whole app around.
| atum47 wrote:
| In a way, I've been using Google tools to improving my english
| for a while now. A while back I was way more active on youtube,
| recording videos of my projects speaking english. I would then
| see the auto generated captions to see if the model had some
| trouble understanding what I was saying. Most of the time it was
| ok. Since I saw the model misunderstanding native english
| speakers as well.
| hu3 wrote:
| That's one way to gather massive amounts of high quality audio
| data to train their own Whisper AI.
|
| I like it. It's a win win in my book.
| daniel_reetz wrote:
| Exactly as they did with GOOG-411, which was used to build a
| huge phoneme database.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOOG-411
| jeffbee wrote:
| Why would you want to collect training data from English
| learners?
| lb4r wrote:
| Because a lot of English is spoken by non-native speakers.
| mhh__ wrote:
| ... they own youtube
| alanzhuly wrote:
| Beautiful, practice acting when?
| anArbitraryOne wrote:
| I used to use google's voice recognition a lot when learning
| Chinese. I would whip myself when it didn't understand me.
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| So my horrible pronunciation is probably in the training data.
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