[HN Gopher] Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team
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Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team
Author : starwin1159
Score : 81 points
Date : 2024-04-30 18:44 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| gnabgib wrote:
| Ongoing discussion [0] (71 points, 8 hours ago, 91 comments)
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| [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40209382
| yifanl wrote:
| Curiously, linked discussion has been downranked to Page 19 at
| time of posting.
| ra7 wrote:
| This happens to almost every post that's somewhat negative
| about Tesla. They mysteriously disappear from the front page
| within minutes even after getting a lot of engagement.
|
| I'm pretty sure some nefarious flagging is happening and I
| hope dang takes a look at it.
| nikcub wrote:
| Same on twitter. My timeline is full of this story yet it
| isn't in trending.
| RIMR wrote:
| Amazing that you think Elon Musk wouldn't actively be
| censoring news unfavorable to his companies. Doubly so
| that you think he's capable of shame.
| elcritch wrote:
| HN's ranking algorithm penalizes potential flamebait
| stories as I understand it.
|
| If you watch, you'll see stories with more comments than
| points will quickly fall off the front page.
| altairprime wrote:
| No need to hope; just email him! hn@ycombinator.com.
| pie420 wrote:
| a lot of terminally online people have a lot of money
| invested in tesla
| m463 wrote:
| I found this on page 1. I wonder if it is because:
| Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team
|
| is more clickbaity than: Tesla conducting
| more layoffs, including entire Supercharger team
| altairprime wrote:
| Sounds like the flamewar detector algorithms reacted to it.
| Happens for a lot of Apple posts too. Y'all could email the
| mods to have them merge the dupes, and to review the post to
| make sure it isn't being brigaded by Tesla fans or whatever.
| Contact link's in the footer.
| tahoeskibum wrote:
| Is this really true or just clickbait being bandied about?
| Tiktaalik wrote:
| folks on twitter seem to be reporting that they've been laid
| off. Seems legit.
|
| https://x.com/willjameson/status/1785304036545315065?s=46&t=...
| Reubend wrote:
| It's true.
| bboygravity wrote:
| Very legit question that everybody should ask themselves when
| reading anything Musk related in 2024.
|
| In this case it seems true.
| qarl wrote:
| HEH. Never heard of "The Financial Times", eh?
|
| It's not clickbait.
| LeoPanthera wrote:
| Many of the recently-fired team has been posting on Reddit
| about it.
| Tiktaalik wrote:
| Remarkable thing here is that other vendors such as Rivian and
| Ford just joined up to the supercharging network, and now we have
| to wonder: if the majority (entirety?) of the supercharging team
| has been laid off, is this infrastructure that Rivian and Ford
| presumably paid to access going to start failing and
| (figuratively) rusting away?
| xhkkffbf wrote:
| It could be the opposite. Ford, Rivian and other third parties
| will be building to this standard. Tesla no longer needs to
| jump start the marketplace, so to speak.
| powerbroker wrote:
| Frankly, if Tesla continued in this way, it would soon raise
| antitrust issues. Would you want all your gasoline coming
| from the same company? Standard Oil was trust-busted a
| century ago for something similar.
|
| Expect the Supercharger team to reconstitute itself with
| funding from several automakers and/or VC. It seems to me
| that the 'just works' feature that we love about
| Superchargers is going to get some level of
| competitiveness/innovation soon... like who thought it was a
| good idea to expose these chargers to rain (awnings seem like
| a big plus for a competitor to grab share).
| blackeyeblitzar wrote:
| I wonder if this has something to do with his China visit. Like
| is he outsourcing this to someone else like BYD?
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe]
| nightshadetrie wrote:
| I wonder if someone on their team angered Elon, or if it's just
| related to a new strategy.
|
| Elon will properly rehire those he needs from the team via extra
| compensation as needed.
| vishalontheline wrote:
| Tesla's charging standard is now the standard that everyone's
| going to use. There are other companies building out chargers.
| Demand for EV's in general seems to be dropping, so Tesla's
| EV's will be the biggest beneficiaries of new EV chargers built
| by everyone else.
|
| Given all of that, Tesla no longer needs to be in the
| supercharger game.
| pie420 wrote:
| Yep, maybe 10-15 will need to be rehired at double salary. It
| should be an incredibly formalized process in terms of building
| new superchargers. Maintaining old superchargers likely
| requires only 4-5 managers and 40-50 technicians globally,
| although they might be contractors. Building out a new
| supercharger is likely incredibly formalized, with permiting,
| design, architecture, and electrical work all done via thrid
| parties. No need to have 500 people around.
| anonymousab wrote:
| That may all be true, if you want to throw away the quality
| reputation that the superchargers built up and let the
| chargers and related travel experience sink as low as it is
| for the alternatives today.
| browningstreet wrote:
| "New strategy" ..how long ago was this strategy hatched?
| tayo42 wrote:
| Wasn't this one of the things going well for tesla and
| positioning to actually not just be a car company?
|
| When does SpaceX go to shit now and all that tax money
| subsidizing it go to waste?
| oniony wrote:
| A few years ago I fully expected Tesla to pull out of the
| vehicle game and focus on drivetrains, self-driving software,
| charging network and home/commercial battery banks.
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