[HN Gopher] Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to...
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       Show HN: I made a privacy friendly and simple app to track my
       menstruation
        
       Hey HN, after the app I actually used to track my period wanted me
       to log in and save my data in the cloud, I decided to write my own.
       Most apps in this area are based on a subscription model and
       display far too much information anyway.  For me, a simple calendar
       is enough where I can add a few notes if necessary.  So that is the
       result of my work - a simple design and the data is only saved on
       the smartphone.
        
       Author : stormqueen
       Score  : 98 points
       Date   : 2024-04-29 15:35 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | lionkor wrote:
       | That's awesome, thank you! So many of the existing women's health
       | related apps are creepy like that (cloud).
        
       | fransjorden wrote:
       | Very good! These apps are really valuable in a world where many
       | of these apps get really bloated
        
       | gary_0 wrote:
       | To help drive home the privacy angle, you might consider open-
       | sourcing it and also making it available on F-Droid. Also, why
       | does it say "in-app purchases"? If this is a simple calendar I
       | don't see why any purchasable extras should be necessary.
       | 
       | (While many in the HN crowd lack the requisite equipment to make
       | use of your project, we do have girlfriends, wives, sisters, and
       | daughters who might benefit from a privacy-respecting app like
       | this.)
        
         | gowld wrote:
         | What's the status of trustworthy reproducible build systems for
         | deploying open source code to apps on Android?
        
           | 1oooqooq wrote:
           | well, zero. just like apple. since there's no convenient way
           | for the user the validate anything they are installing other
           | than "the app store said so"
        
         | RIMR wrote:
         | The in-app purchases are a dealbreaker. Not only is there no
         | reason for it, but it necessitates the integration of Google
         | Play Services.
         | 
         | If the goal was to be privacy-centric, it already fails at that
         | for this alone.
         | 
         | And if the goal was to profit off of women's need for privacy-
         | centric period tracking, then there is absolutely no reason not
         | to find a proper FOSS alternative that cares about its users
         | more than making passive income for the developer.
        
           | dangus wrote:
           | An in-app purchase is an automatic dealbreaker? Doesn't that
           | depend on what it actually is?
           | 
           | It could be an in-app purchase for themes or something like
           | that. It can be a "thanks for supporting the app" cosmetic
           | badge, completely optional, just there to buy a coffee for
           | the author. But you're dealbreaking it before you even see
           | it?
           | 
           | In-app purchase != data collection
           | 
           | Also, regarding FOSS alternatives, you should know that FOSS
           | does not mean "free from payment." It technically doesn't
           | even mean "free from data collection." It just means that the
           | source code is available under a free and open source
           | license. FOSS isn't necessarily "free as in beer" and the FSF
           | explicitly defines it that way. It's more important that
           | you're offered the freedoms of the open source license and
           | ability to get the source code. Whether or not you pay is a
           | separate issue entirely.
        
             | 1oooqooq wrote:
             | it is the moment google allows you to target who have spend
             | on that app.
             | 
             | but yeah, you already have:
             | 
             | - system apps for play service which run all the time and
             | can access all apps' storage.
             | 
             | - all apps can ask the OS for a list of other
             | installed/recently open apps. whats app request that list
             | every minute.
             | 
             | - etc. not going to list all the crap you can use to target
             | individuals on apple and android. there's plenty.
             | 
             | my point is, in the end. apps with purchase option are the
             | least worse from the official stores. chill.
        
               | dangus wrote:
               | Are you responding to the right comment? What you're
               | saying seems completely unrelated to what I was
               | responding to RIMR about.
               | 
               | If your issue with this app being posted to HN is the
               | mere existence of the app on the Play Store (including
               | all of the store and the OS' existing flaws), I don't see
               | how that's supposed to be a constructive or useful
               | discussion relevant to this app.
        
               | nozzlegear wrote:
               | Don't tell someone to chill just because they take an
               | opposing viewpoint. It's disingenuous and attempts to
               | paint them as emotional and irrational.
        
           | distalx wrote:
           | It's unfair to expect someone to work for free. In-app
           | purchases are a common and reasonable way for programmers to
           | sustain themselves while providing a valuable service to
           | users. After all, programmers, like everyone else, need to
           | make a living.
        
         | analog31 wrote:
         | Indeed, given the legal complications of reproductive health in
         | some states, privacy would be at the top of my mind if
         | considering to use an app like this.
        
         | felsokning wrote:
         | OP seems to embrace Google Analytics, as stated on their own
         | site.[1] So, you might be barking up the wrong "if you want
         | true privacy, avoid Google" tree, here, sadly.
         | 
         | (I agree with you but OP probably thinks/feels differently
         | about Google - itself.)
         | 
         | [1] - https://www.siekmoeller.com/ladylog/impressum.html
        
       | simple10 wrote:
       | Well done! It's great to see more female developers building apps
       | for women. I agree with other commenters that you'd get a lot of
       | mileage out of open sourcing it and doubling down on the privacy
       | / local storage angle. It would help you get press coverage if
       | you want to grow the user base.
        
         | sshine wrote:
         | > _you 'd get a lot of mileage out of open sourcing it_
         | 
         | I'm not sure. Maintaining an open source project requires even
         | more time than a closed source project. You can have a
         | community-oriented closed source project, too.
         | 
         | > _and doubling down on the privacy / local storage angle_
         | 
         | Yeah!
        
       | kristianp wrote:
       | This is cool, I always thought ovuview was a little too public,
       | with its notifications. Are you planning on features that track
       | likely ovulation time for fertility purposes?
        
       | grey_earthling wrote:
       | If you want to avoid Google, F-Droid also has options:
       | https://search.f-droid.org/?q=period
        
       | d--b wrote:
       | Congrats! Adding 2 cents here: my wife only used a menstruation
       | tracker when we were trying to conceive. Having the app
       | predict/notify the ovulation day was useful.
        
         | LouisSayers wrote:
         | The opposite can also be true - at least for knowing the
         | relative risk of getting her pregnant.
        
       | infodrop157293 wrote:
       | Other options that are open source include:
       | 
       | drip. https://dripapp.org/
       | 
       | Bluemoon https://gitlab.com/ngrob/bluemoon-android
       | https://www.nilsgrob.ch/work/bluemoon
       | 
       | Periodical https://arnowelzel.de/en/projects/periodical
       | 
       | Log28 https://github.com/wildeyedskies/log28
        
         | russdill wrote:
         | Sorry to hijack a bit here, but have any good links to open
         | source baby tracking apps that allow sharing between partners?
         | The popular options out there on the app stores are a privacy
         | dumpster fire.
        
           | infodrop157293 wrote:
           | No experience but Alternativeto.net might help.
           | 
           | The sharing part makes that a little less common.
        
           | warunsl wrote:
           | I used this for our newborn recently and was very impressed
           | with how flawlessly the partner sharing worked -
           | https://mangobaby.app It is not open source. But didn't look
           | suspicious like the other apps on the store. The privacy
           | labels on the iOS App Store seemed acceptable too (for us).
        
           | sshine wrote:
           | I'd recommend FindMy, but it only works for iBabies.
        
         | yahayahya wrote:
         | My wife is a big fan of Euki which is privacy focused and
         | developed by a non-profit.
         | 
         | https://eukiapp.org/
        
       | politelemon wrote:
       | I think it's such a great name, simple and endearing. Thanks for
       | sharing it I'll be sure to have a look.
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | Doing necessary work. How can one sponsor or otherwise provide
       | compensation for this work? https://buymeacoffee.com/,
       | https://ko-fi.com/, https://github.com/sponsors, etc.
        
       | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
       | Planned Parenthood produces one too
       | 
       | https://www.plannedparenthooddirect.org/spot-on-period-track...
        
       | pelagicAustral wrote:
       | > _In-app purchases_ > New account > Show HN but not open source
       | > Eldrazzi, indestructible, cannot be countered, female developer
       | trope...
       | 
       | Mmmmkey...
        
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