[HN Gopher] ArcaneDoor - New campaign found targeting network de...
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       ArcaneDoor - New campaign found targeting network devices
        
       Author : voisin
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2024-04-27 17:42 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (blog.talosintelligence.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (blog.talosintelligence.com)
        
       | buildbot wrote:
       | It's interesting how it always the big vendors that seem to
       | suffer attacks like this - is it the more positive angle that
       | simply nobody important uses stuff like opnsense? Or more
       | negatively, not enough people paying attention to catch these
       | attacks?
        
         | hn_version_0023 wrote:
         | I think its that anyone important has significant money on the
         | line, and hence wants or requires support contracts for their
         | technicians and engineers. That wildly narrows the range of
         | acceptable choices to pretty much just enterprise vendors
         | (IMO), with the result being a greatly reduction attack
         | surface?
        
         | er4hn wrote:
         | If this were to happen to an OSS product it would likely get a
         | CVE, but it's less likely to get a report on the controller's
         | behind this and a well written page with pretty graphics unless
         | a security researcher wanted to bolster their credentials.
         | 
         | Cisco has enough money to fund their own security company which
         | lets them also investigate issues and issue statements of the
         | form: We are so significant that nation-states target our
         | equipment. We are also so dedicated to security we will write
         | up these reports to show this dedication.
         | 
         | Part of it is it makes them look cool. Part of it is if they
         | don't they risk the govt dragging them through the mud, like
         | CISA did for the MSFT email breach. CISA already releases a lot
         | of alerts on Cisco as it is.
        
           | m000 wrote:
           | > We are so significant that nation-states target our
           | equipment.
           | 
           | Maybe if they didn't lobby so hard, they would have been
           | spared and Huawei would have been targeted instead. /s
           | 
           | > they risk the govt dragging them through the mud
           | 
           | Lol. Chances are they're probably already in bed with all
           | sorts of 3-letter agencies for things we'll never learn.
        
       | _wire_ wrote:
       | "espionage-focused campaign found targeting network devices"
       | 
       | Nice copy.
       | 
       | --"multiple vendors" = Cisco and Microsoft... and others
       | 
       | "these devices need to be routinely and promptly patched; using
       | up-to-date hardware"
       | 
       | Contact sales at xxx...
       | 
       | "Cisco's position as a leading global network infrastructure
       | vendor gives Talos' Intelligence and Interdiction team immense
       | visibility into the general state of network hygiene. This also
       | gives us uniquely positioned investigative capability into
       | attacks of this nature."
       | 
       | --Is this a security bulletin or a prospectus? When is a
       | liability an asset? You decide
       | 
       | "Early in 2024, a vigilant customer reached out to both Cisco's
       | Product Security Incident Response Team (PSIRT) and Cisco Talos
       | to discuss security concerns..."
       | 
       | --More fine copy.
       | 
       | "Cisco Secure Firewall (formerly Next-Generation Firewall and
       | Firepower NGFW) appliances such as Threat Defense Virtual,
       | Adaptive Security Appliance and Meraki MX can detect malicious
       | activity associated with this threat."
       | 
       | --ABC: Always Be Closing!
       | 
       | "This threat demonstrates several techniques of the MITRE ATT&CK
       | framework, most notably..."
       | 
       | --Several = 15
       | 
       | --List of 100s of vectors and effects over years
       | 
       | "As a part of our ongoing investigation, we have also conducted
       | analysis on possible attribution of this activity. Our
       | attribution assessment is based on the victimology..."
       | 
       | --We still don't know what's going on or why. Order now!
       | 
       | --Re Talos: back in 2008 there was a little upset in bank
       | derivatives due to the standards and practices of a little sector
       | of the bond market called The Ratings Agencies.
       | 
       | --In the tech sector Cisco stock rose sharply on HW sales surge
       | after a critical vulnerability in government systems was exposed
       | in existing HW...
       | 
       | THANK YOU THANK YOU I'LL BE HERE ALL WEEK TRY THE VEAL
        
       | robocat wrote:
       | > While we have been unable to identify the initial attack
       | vector, we have identified two vulnerabilities (CVE-2024-20353
       | and CVE-2024-20359)
       | 
       | So update but probably remain vulnerable - there is no reason to
       | think CISCO has fixed the original vulnerability.
       | 
       | Irrelevant aside: CISCO could have just reported a couple of
       | zero-days they already knew of. Maybe vendors will start
       | stockpiling zero-days ;-P
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _Cisco says hackers subverted its security devices to spy on
       | governments_
       | 
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40174207
        
       | GartzenDeHaes wrote:
       | Might be off topic, but has Cisco ASA improved much in the past
       | four or five years? The one I had years ago was not much use for
       | anything other than basic access rules.
        
         | tsujamin wrote:
         | There's a whole load more checks for "../" patterns in the web
         | code since the bugs around 2020 :)
        
       | zmgsabst wrote:
       | Could this kind of attack be used to intercept a WebEx call, say
       | between German generals?
        
       | _obviously wrote:
       | This attack is very sophisticated and still the root cause is
       | undiscovered.
        
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