[HN Gopher] How I search in 2024
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How I search in 2024
Author : exolymph
Score : 35 points
Date : 2024-04-26 20:20 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| tarkin2 wrote:
| For me LLMs feel like a lecture where you understand all the
| words and ideas but once you leave you realise you really haven't
| understood anything new but you perhaps have some new avenues to
| explore. More of an advanced exploratory tool.
| zikzak wrote:
| I tried Kagi and even signed up for the basic plan but ultimately
| cancelled. If the basic plan included twice as many searches per
| month, I'd be all in. However, I find Startpage results are "just
| as good" and free. I didn't use a lot of the other Kagi tools.
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| So make it cost less or offer more and I'm in Kagi!
| GoldenRacer wrote:
| I've been using kagi and that's my biggest complaint. Upgrading
| from the basic plan seems like a lot of money but being on the
| basic plan, I have mental friction every time I do a search
| because I have anxiety about running out of searches. I
| actually haven't ran out in the 3 months I've been using it for
| but I don't like the anxiety 300 searches/month creates for me
| and maybe I would run out if I didn't have the anxiety limiting
| me
| jerhewet wrote:
| Keyword search without SEO trash is EXACTLY what I want, and
| Marginalia sounds like it might fit the bill. Looking forward to
| seeing how well it performs over the next couple of weeks!
| Zambyte wrote:
| Definitely not to detract from using Marginalia directly, but I
| think it's worth noting that Kagi actually uses them as one of
| several external sources[0]. I think the Small Web filter leans
| on their results.
|
| [0] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-
| sources.htm...
| gabev wrote:
| Interesting to see Kagi on this list. One of our users for
| Zenfetch specifically requested the option to see their Zenfetch
| articles alongside their search results, so we naively developed
| that feature to appear beside Google SERPs...
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| Turns out, he was a Kagi power user. Not the worst mistake on our
| end, though pretty neat to see it in the wild
| kytazo wrote:
| I make heavy use of after:2023 type of filter in google
| elteto wrote:
| Isn't most SEO content constantly tweaked and updated?
| Presumably to keep itself "fresh" to the crawler. What does
| after:2023 get you?
| sira04 wrote:
| Similar, on Youtube you can type before:2025 (any future year)
| and it'll show better results.
| jszymborski wrote:
| I've been using Brave Search[0], and I have to say I've been
| quite impressed. I don't know if it will be enshitified going
| forward, but for now they run their own index and have been doing
| quite well for my purposes.
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| I'd use Kagi, but I really dislike the idea of my searches being
| linked to my credit card and home address for privacy reasons.
| It's a shame, because I do believe that paying a reasonable price
| for services is often more sustainable and, paradoxically,
| consumer-friendly than the alternative.
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| [0] https://search.brave.com/
| AlexErrant wrote:
| I've been using GitHub code search a lot to get examples of how
| people use APIs or designing features. It's quite good.
|
| I recently did this to figure out how to insert JSON into
| Sqlite's FTS5 https://github.com/brouberol/5esheets/pull/292
|
| I didn't use AI because for these things because for some things
| (database design, constructing a grammar) you _really_ want to
| understand your code completely, and I don't want to deal with
| hallucinations.
| xnx wrote:
| 18 hours ago. 5 comments.
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40165994
| layer8 wrote:
| One tip for Google Search is to add `tbs=li:1` as a query
| parameter to your search shortcut to activate verbatim search.
| You can also use `num=100` to get more results at once.
| loginx wrote:
| Does that do the same thing as simply putting quotes around
| your search term?
| layer8 wrote:
| No, it does the same thing as selecting Tools > [All results
| >] Verbatim.
|
| Putting quotes in addition is still necessary when searching
| for a phrase, or when you have multiple search terms you want
| all to appear in every hit (though that's still not 100%
| reliable).
| pentaphobe wrote:
| Entirely off topic, but I hope referring to AI art as "generative
| art" doesn't catch on
|
| There's such a great and rich world of generative art
| (explorations of algorithmic aesthetics, not AI generated) which
| is probably already endangered by the influx of the recent AI
| boon - would be a shame for it to be further buried by naming
| overload
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