[HN Gopher] Camus, Albert and the Anarchists (2007)
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Camus, Albert and the Anarchists (2007)
Author : TotalCrackpot
Score : 58 points
Date : 2024-04-26 17:45 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| spxneo wrote:
| Camus and his views remind me of a certain political spectrum in
| Western society that is very popular.
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| > _a certain political spectrum_
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| Which one would that be?
|
| Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qT-C-0ajI
| hn_version_0023 wrote:
| Please be direct and name what you're referring to?
| reocha wrote:
| I had no idea Albert Camus was an anarchist, I've read some of
| his work (The Myth of Sisyphus and The rebel) and it shouldn't
| really surprise me to find out he is a socialist of some form.
|
| Edit: If it isn't clear Camus is a fantastic writer and you
| should definitely check out some of his work, and more articles
| from https://libcom.org/ if you have the time!
| ughitsaaron wrote:
| At the very least, even if you haven't read Camus, I expect
| that any programmer of any experience should already have some
| intuitive sympathy with "The Myth of Sisyphus."
| reocha wrote:
| One must imagine Sisyphus happy working within an extremely
| obscure and undocumented micro services architecture
| VelesDude wrote:
| Fixing one bug only to find the fix reveals another bug.
| Repeat til the end of time.
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| If staging is sometimes debugged in sorrow, it can also take
| place in joy, for the struggle itself to release to prod is
| enough to fill a dev's heart.
|
| Lagniappe: https://existentialcomics.com/comic/29
| wcarron wrote:
| Really? I think he was very open in his admiration for some of
| the anarchists mentioned in The Rebel, calling Kaliayev & co,
| 'men of the highest principles' and refers to other anarchists'
| "profound considerations for the lives of others".
| reocha wrote:
| I either forgot about them or didn't make the association,
| its been a while since I've read it.
| lordleft wrote:
| Camus famously broke with the french left over (certain aspects)
| of Algerian Liberation, for the simple reason that his mother
| continued to live there. He famously quipped:
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| "At this moment bombs are being planted in the trams in Algiers.
| My mother could be on one of those trams. If that is justice, I
| prefer my mother."
|
| ...which won him no small amount of censure. I always think of
| this moment when I am asked to co-sign, wholeheartedly, the
| measures endorsed by certain movements.
| omeze wrote:
| Yes, generally people side with their family and loved ones
| over principles. My fathers family had their house aerial
| bombed by the french, so a few tram bombs just sounds par for
| the course of an independence uprising. But your main point is
| correct - violence is always ugly, and we have to be careful
| when rationalizing it to achieve pragmatic goals.
| jhonof wrote:
| He also was Algerian so meant that quote literally rather than
| figuratively, and consequently he had a lot more skin in the
| game when compared to Parisians like Sartre.
| freedomben wrote:
| Tangential, but one of the things I am most excited about as AI
| gets "human level" good at audio book narration is the ability to
| turn things like the Anarchist Library into audio books. There
| are _so many things_ that I want to read that I just don 't have
| time for (there and other places) but are far too obscure to ever
| get a professional narration. And yes Librivox has quite a few of
| them, but the quality is ... a little distracting (or at least
| was in the late 10s when I last checked).
| dotsam wrote:
| Me too. I've been impressed with some essays I've listened to
| via Open AI TTS. Much better than the librivox ones I've
| occasionally suffered through, and it's only going to get
| better.
| anaccount342 wrote:
| Well, he met Gaston Leval, who wrote about CNT's economic
| successes within the Spanish civil war/revolution (primarily in
| the books called "Collectives in the Spanish Revolution" and
| "Collectives in Aragon"). Anyone who has read those accounts in
| good faith can not help but seriously consider those ideas as
| their own.
| anaccount342 wrote:
| Well, he met Gaston Leval, who wrote about CNT within the Spanish
| civil war/revolution (primarily in the books called "Collectives
| in the Spanish Revolution" and "Collectives in Aragon"). Anyone
| who has read those accounts in good faith can not help but
| seriously consider those ideas as their own.
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