[HN Gopher] DayLight Computer
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DayLight Computer
Author : luu
Score : 59 points
Date : 2024-04-25 06:36 UTC (1 days ago)
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| system2 wrote:
| So, he disassembled the screen and made it 50% useful?
| micw wrote:
| I'd say 30% or less. Works not at light, works bad at non-
| homogenous daylight. And you need to look against a window to
| look into the screen.
| actionfromafar wrote:
| Also, Picasso wasted a lot of paint which could have been put
| to good use painting fences.
| ReleaseCandidat wrote:
| And canvas! Just imagine how many trousers could have been
| made out of the canvas needed for Guernica!
| actionfromafar wrote:
| Army trousers, of course.
| micw wrote:
| Just googled the painting. I do agree with the "painting
| fences" argument.
| bayindirh wrote:
| Somebody should tell Citroen about this.
|
| They have won a couple of awards with their translucent C4
| dashboard LCD which uses daylight when it's available.
| dist-epoch wrote:
| But 10 times more valuable since now it's art.
| nyx wrote:
| On today's episode of "Hacker News critiques art"...
| bayindirh wrote:
| I mean, who needs art when we use 80x24 terminals all day. /s
|
| Now, if you pardon, I need to fine-tune my color scheme and
| touch up my welcome banner ASCII art.
| austinjp wrote:
| She: "Basak Tuna develops, rethinks and reproduces a project
| she called DayLight Computer".
| hazn wrote:
| 1.) The artist is a she [0]
|
| 2.) Almost every new technological idea starts with a worse
| product than the older technology. It's clearly not meant to be
| a product, but a conversation starter on how we interact with
| screens in and outside of daylight. I consider this problem not
| to be solved and would love to see more art projects (and
| ultimately, products)
|
| [0] https://basaktuna.com/Contact-and-Bio
| martinlexow wrote:
| I love the idea behind it, and understand that the solution shown
| --which is more of an artistic installation rather than a real
| alternative for screens--is meant to serve as a conversation
| starter. How about, in the next step, developing an app based on
| this idea that uses the light sensor typically integrated in
| screens in combination with the local time of day and the
| respective sunrises and sunsets to regulate screen brightness?
| I'd be interested in how many users would engage in this
| experiment.
| lloeki wrote:
| Mac laptops have been doing the light sensor thing for the
| longest time.
|
| More recently TrueTone also does tone mapping to adjust for
| colour perception from the environment. Not to be confused with
| Night Shift, which "merely" biases the colour profile based on
| time of day.
|
| Lunar.app aims to bring all of this to external
| displays/clamshell mode. It can use an external sensor.
|
| https://lunar.fyi/sensor
|
| So the experiment is kind of out there already :)
|
| Controlling brightness means there is brightness to control,
| IOW there's a flashlight pointing at your eyes. The post's
| experiment removes the flashlight altogether. The above tries
| to make the flashlight less impactful on the eye, but it's
| still a flashlight.
| woodrowbarlow wrote:
| this makes the device more usable in low-light conditions.
| the DayLight Computer is deliberately un-usable in low-light
| conditions.
| jader201 wrote:
| The post you're replying to was responding to the question
| posed in the above comment:
|
| _> How about, in the next step, developing an app based on
| this idea that uses the light sensor typically integrated
| in screens in combination with the local time of day and
| the respective sunrises and sunsets to regulate screen
| brightness?_
|
| Basically saying that what the above post was asking for
| already exists.
|
| They weren't trying to improve on the DayLight computer.
| danielpetrica wrote:
| Saw a Ltt video about a sunscreen monitor. Isn't it the same
| thing?
| LorenDB wrote:
| Not quite. The monitor LTT reviewed works on the same
| principle, but it was manufactured as an ambient light monitor
| rather than being retrofitted later on.
| hasoleju wrote:
| My schedule in the past years was not linked to daylight at all.
| But that changed recently. I have a new window where the first
| sunlight in the morning now enters the room.
|
| Since I have that window I'm very aware of the time the sun rises
| every day and how that time shifts a few minutes every day. At
| least in the location where I life. (South of Germany)
| ar-jan wrote:
| The name will be confusing, https://daylightcomputer.com/ is a
| fast e-ink tablet.
| robxorb wrote:
| This is strange. I could find no information on that page.
| Searching online I found a few light articles about it, some of
| which pointed to two YouTube videos put out by the company.
| However, both videos have been removed (by the uploader).
| actionfromafar wrote:
| If it's about e-ink and it's _not_ strange, it 's even
| stranger. It's like _all_ e-ink products are intentionally
| obfuscated and generally not available unless it 's a hacked
| Kindle.
| ar-jan wrote:
| Indeed there's little information available, but there have
| been demos and I've seen some shots on their twitter
| (@daylightco).
| spondyl wrote:
| Despite the common confusion, it's not e-ink but rather a
| reflective LCD (rLCD) screen. It's the same principle as the
| original Game Boy where instead of using a backlight, the LCD
| reflects light instead.
|
| There's an early review available here for anyone interested:
| https://arun.is/blog/daylight-tablet/
| ar-jan wrote:
| Ah, good to know and thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that
| yet.
| m0llusk wrote:
| Seems like it would be way better to use a Fresnel lens and some
| fiber optics to put this light where ever it might be useful.
| greenbit wrote:
| Not for Linux users. Forces you to open windows first.
| WillAdams wrote:
| Things such as this make me miss the transflective display on my
| Fujitsu Stylistic ST-4110 and wish that there were computers
| available with such a display now (which weren't intended, and
| priced, for military and maritime usage).
|
| It really is nice to have a screen which works in full, bright,
| direct sunlight with no need to fuss with angles or seek shade.
|
| Interestingly, Lenovo recently announced a prototype laptop with
| transparent display:
|
| https://www.gadgets360.com/laptops/news/lenovo-transparent-l...
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| which I think has a lot of potential:
|
| - it would be amazing for repair work
|
| - similarly for instruction --- hold up the device to compare the
| current state with what the screen displays
|
| and I'm surprised that they didn't try pairing this with some
| sort of multiple display setup such as on the Yoga Book 9i (which
| I'd buy if it just had Wacom EMR).
| nivertech wrote:
| OLED screens work fine during the daylight, but the problem is
| that I afraid to increase the brightness in order not to burn the
| screen.
| lawlessone wrote:
| I was expecting a digital sundial, but I like this.
| utopcell wrote:
| This already exists as a product:
| https://www.sunvisiondisplay.com/rE-Monitor
| lucb1e wrote:
| "a computer screen that works in front of a window or on a sunny
| day instead of using the embedded electric light. A desktop
| screen that is resistant to function at night times. [...] The
| screen's light source is now the environmental light or
| daylight."
|
| Ah, a gameboy! Why didn't you say! This brings back memories
| thyselius wrote:
| How would one go about converting an old screen?
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