[HN Gopher] It's OK to feed wild birds - here are some tips for ...
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       It's OK to feed wild birds - here are some tips for doing it the
       right way
        
       Author : dnetesn
       Score  : 58 points
       Date   : 2024-04-22 04:47 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | Vicinity9635 wrote:
       | None of this applies to crows. They're very happy to eat our
       | rotting corpses and day old vomit. So feeding them can be an
       | adventure if you try hard enough.
        
         | sva_ wrote:
         | I tried that once. I fed a bunch of crows some walnuts while
         | sitting by a river, and it was fine. The next day I came back,
         | I fed crows at the same spot, and soon a murder of other crows
         | came and attacked the crows I just fed. Not even just lightly
         | nabbing them, but hacking down on them continuously until I
         | broke up the fight.
         | 
         | Didn't try feeding any since then.
        
           | lagniappe wrote:
           | You're supposed to use McDonalds fries, and some light rock-
           | throwing toward the opposing faction. Traditionally this is
           | how murder-crows have been trained since at least 2013. Total
           | process is a few weeks.
           | 
           | Source: https://imgur.com/f50IZJS
        
           | HenryBemis wrote:
           | Probably territorial disputes. I bought a feeder and I'm
           | hanging it right outside/below my balcony (so birds can eat
           | without pooping on my balcony). I buy hulled sunflower seeds,
           | 10kg, every month just for the feeder. My typical 'customers'
           | are House Sparrows that I try to keep alive through the
           | winter. The (three) crows on my block are cool with them, and
           | let them live around here. When pigeons fly in though, or
           | once we had some ducks resting and trying to feed on my
           | feeder, OH BOY, the crows no-like-big-birds.
           | 
           | Sidenote: because of the weird position of my feeder, only
           | one bird can eat at-a-time. House Sparrows being smart and
           | loving do the following.. one goes to my feeder and
           | shoves/throws down seeds, so he/she eats straight from the
           | feeder, and a bunch of others eat the seeds falling on the
           | sidewalk.
        
           | gerdesj wrote:
           | Whomever came up with that nonsense about cockroaches
           | inheriting the smoking remnants of the earth we leave behind
           | have no idea.
           | 
           | "If its a rook its a crow ..." Crow are mostly singletons,
           | rooks are the social largish, black corvid. By social, I mean
           | bird form of Peaky Blinders.
           | 
           | In the park opposite my house there are many large, mature
           | trees. Several of them are home to rival gangs of rooks.
           | There are also many magpies and some jays and some crows. The
           | magpies seem to spontaneously form mobs but mostly couple up
           | and do small scales raids on smaller birds if they run out of
           | other food or for the hell of it. Jays tend to be more
           | circumspect and I rarely spot them being nasty. I suspect
           | they are more like assassins.
           | 
           | Corvids are extraordinary birds. They don't have the weaponry
           | of hawks, so seemed to have developed intelligence and a
           | really strong stomach instead.
           | 
           | Mind you the seagull (herring gull) is an even larger "crow"
           | with amphibious capabilities. I lived in Plymouth (Devon) for
           | some years and worked on the Barbican, so dealt with a lot of
           | seagulls. I never got crapped on and never had a burger or
           | chips stolen from me.
           | 
           | Wind forwards a fair few years. I'm doing an IT related job
           | and am in Bristol Parkway railway station, on platform
           | munching sandwiches during a lunch break. A gull swoops in
           | from behind me and grabs a sarnie from my hand.
           | 
           | The skill and precision of the steal was remarkable. I've
           | also seen them glide in, slow up and briefly hover over a
           | victim, drop down and grab with their beak and then fly
           | vertically upwards and escape. You have to admire the sheer
           | strength of these birds. They are largely designed for
           | soaring and gliding. Look at the aspect ratio of their wings
           | - they are long and quite thin - more like a glider than a
           | fighter. I suppose their association with the sea and fishing
           | has encouraged evolving strength. Pulling a fish out of the
           | sea is hard work. They can furl those gliding wings for
           | bursts of speed and they have the sheer strength to do VTOL.
           | Unlike a hawk, they do not have talons, nor a hooked beak to
           | grab, rip and tear. Their beak instead is designed to cut
           | things in half or cut bits out.
           | 
           | I could, but won't, witter on about the peregrine falcon.
           | They are quite fast and successful.
           | 
           | Pigeons (rock doves) will probably have the final say after
           | Armageddon and will clean up any corvid, and seagull waste.
           | Including those that found cockroaches unpalatable.
        
       | sologoub wrote:
       | Didn't see this in the article, but having a thriving bird
       | population is great for pest control as well! They keep all kinds
       | of bugs in check, so less need to spray stuff, etc.
        
       | greenie_beans wrote:
       | just plant native plants that have seed heads and don't dead head
       | them once they're done flowering. your neighbor will think your
       | garden is ugly, but they won't have many birds in their garden.
        
         | hammock wrote:
         | can you deadhead but just leave them all in one spot in the
         | yard for the birds to find?
        
           | greenie_beans wrote:
           | idk, try it and let us know how it works out.
        
         | EvanAnderson wrote:
         | We plant sunflowers and zinnias to get lovely visits from
         | hummingbirds (and bees and butterflies) in the early to mid-
         | summer and jays and finches coming for the seeds in the fall.
        
         | goda90 wrote:
         | Don't spray pesticides either. A lot of birds eat insects.
        
       | smcleod wrote:
       | Tip for New Zealand bird feeding - native birds feed on nectar
       | (sugar/honey water) and not seeds which are primarily consumed by
       | introduced / invasive species.
        
         | soperj wrote:
         | I thought Kiwis eat, roots, shoots and leaves?
        
           | smcleod wrote:
           | You're not going to be feeding kiwis in your average back
           | yard, also - as they don't fly, they'll struggle to reach
           | most bird feeders.
        
           | davidhyde wrote:
           | You're confusing, pandas with marsupials ;)
        
             | 867-5309 wrote:
             | there's a Lynne Truss joke in there somewhere..
        
           | observationist wrote:
           | Only the ones with guns and shovels.
        
       | robjwells wrote:
       | Narrowly on the matter of "clean feeders", I'd recommend people
       | (particularly of interest to those in the UK) check out Finches
       | Friend. They make feeders designed to avoid the spread of disease
       | (primarily trichomonosis) and their blog posts are full of
       | related information.
       | 
       | https://www.finchesfriend.com/
        
       | kingsloi wrote:
       | One of the best things I've done recently was install bird
       | feeders that hang from the soffits of my house. My main level is
       | on the the top floor, and seeing all the birds while I'm at work
       | or on the sofa is such a joy. They keep me, my cats, and toddler
       | entertained... but having to refill every week gets expensive
        
         | soperj wrote:
         | > but having to refill every week gets expensive
         | 
         | Less spent on cat toys though...
        
       | mysterydip wrote:
       | For those interested, Lazy Game Reviews (LGR) recently started a
       | live bird feeder cam which runs daily: (edit: fixed)
       | https://www.youtube.com/live/fd-2D_Qabqk?si=buJg480KK3VJI_PD
       | 
       | Also, if you're curious what birds are coming into your yard, I
       | recommend the Merlin Bird ID App from Cornell University:
       | https://merlin.allaboutbirds.org/
        
         | stn8188 wrote:
         | Was the link an ad intentionally? Or was it a copy/paste error?
        
           | mysterydip wrote:
           | Copy paste error. It was the live feed, I'll see if I can fix
           | it.
        
       | Aaronstotle wrote:
       | I feed my neighborhood crews peanuts pretty regularly, they know
       | me and my girlfriend and are quick to show up in the morning when
       | we have the bag of peanuts. Its fun
        
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