[HN Gopher] Cindy Lee might be the future of music
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Cindy Lee might be the future of music
Author : b0ner_t0ner
Score : 89 points
Date : 2024-04-20 09:01 UTC (1 days ago)
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| b0ner_t0ner wrote:
| Related: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/cindy-lee-diamond-
| jubil...
|
| And the GeoCities website: https://www.geocities.ws/ccqsk/
| Springtime wrote:
| _> "Diamond Jubilee" is not available on Spotify/Apple/Bandcamp
| etc. Digital WAV album files only available to DL via this
| website._
|
| It's curious they exclude their music from Bandcamp, which is
| very different among those other platforms listed and indie-
| friendly (not to mention far more attractive for customers who
| want to buy and own lossless music). Yet they then link their
| entire album for free on Youtube.
| saulpw wrote:
| Bandcamp was acquired by Epic Games in 2022 and then by
| Songtradr in 2023. Its ownership and management has become
| less different from those other platforms, and it's no longer
| seen as indie-friendly by people who pay attention to these
| things.
| jrajav wrote:
| And yet they still regularly hold Bandcamp Fridays (0%
| commission) and haven't shown any signs of reducing or
| locking down functionality. The acquisitions are certainly
| worrying in theory, and it's worth keeping a close eye on
| their operations, but for practical purposes they're still
| one of the best distribution venues for artists in terms of
| 'bang for buck' (buck being your fans' attention).
| stavros wrote:
| Grooveshark was the future of music, too bad it got shut down.
| wakeupcall wrote:
| It definitely was for me too, and because it had _everything_,
| thanks to piracy. I started listening mostly mainstream bands,
| because that's what I knew, and within a few months I was
| listening to absolutely random authors, genres and "things" I
| didn't know existed. And by that I mean stuff like old sega
| genesis video game music somebody uploaded - without even
| knowing what the genesis was.
|
| I never _BOUGHT_ so much music since. It was eye opening for me
| how little I cared about radio /mainstream music after that.
|
| The closest I've found so far is soundcloud. Thanks in no small
| part due to the barely-working recommendation engine, which
| doesn't get stuck in a local maxima, frequently going offtrack
| in pleasant unexpected ways.
| cageface wrote:
| Soulseek is still pretty good.
| shermozle wrote:
| And the future of text is definitely not having an autoplay video
| of something completely unrelated follow you as you read down the
| page.
| klyrs wrote:
| No, I'm afraid that _is_ the future of text. I 've been
| complaining about this phenomenon for several years and it's
| only getting more popular.
| 8organicbits wrote:
| Fix your user agent. I'm using this one (on desktop at least)
| so I can open links directly in reader view using the right
| click context menu.
|
| https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reader-view/
| neuronic wrote:
| Something about this just really struck a nerve with me this
| Sunday morning. The music itself, which is phenomenal but also
| opening this GeoCities site. What a beautiful little gem today :)
| injidup wrote:
| I have zero interest in going to a geo cities website to burnish
| my non existent hipster musical credentials. It's just a
| marketing stunt and evidently successful.
| defrost wrote:
| If it's working for the artist and returning more than the
| micro pennies of streaming plays more power to them.
|
| I'll continue to get my music via snail mail pianola rolls.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZTrXAxZ-g
| 48864w6ui wrote:
| The difference between hipsters and hobos is that a hobo
| spends two hours of pushing broom for their four-bit room.
| PopAlongKid wrote:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_the_Road_(song)
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| if you all like picking, here's a contemporary
| interpretation of the tune:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwwAdB1Wl9U
|
| (I am slightly disappointed that it didn't get covered in
| Me First and the Gimme Gimme's _Love Their Country_. Back
| in the day, my father tells me, the reefer cars were the
| best because (a) they used sawdust and hay to insulate
| the ice, providing a comfier ride than most wagons, and
| (b) the view, while sitting in the loading hatches, was
| panoramic)
| bitwize wrote:
| It's okay. You won't even get an opportunity to hear the best
| music. All that stuff is distributed by hand to DJs you've
| never heard of, who play it once at parties you'll never
| attend, and then put it into their collection never to be heard
| again by anyone.
| injidup wrote:
| The idea that there is "best music" is nonsense. There is
| music you like and there is music you don't like. Good or bad
| is subjective. I know composers who will wax lyrical on the
| genius of some piece and to me it sounds like two tortured
| cats in a sack but give me some great Cuban rhythms I can
| dance to and those same composers will look at me like I'm
| daft. We agree to disagree. The concept of "best", "new" and
| "original" is a teenage thrall to marketing. I assure that
| there is enough depth on Spotify to satisfy any taste but if
| it's only important to you to virtue signal then good luck
| with that.
| whstl wrote:
| I think you're both agreeing here. Bitwize's answer was
| sarcastic, and definitely not aimed at you.
|
| People really like to romanticize those things.
| bitwize wrote:
| Yeah, there was literally a Hackernews a few years ago
| who pretty much said what I said, but unironically: that
| there was music out there better than you've ever heard,
| but you'll never hear it because it's only released in
| print runs as few as one copy, and that copy is owned by
| a DJ who will never let it be heard again, and that this
| was by design because a wide listening audience would
| spoil the goodness of this impeccable music. I can't be
| arsed to find this comment just now, but I remember
| reading it.
|
| See also: Prince's Vault (from which I believe his estate
| is now compiling material to be released).
| Projectiboga wrote:
| Here is another example of exclusives from the old
| soundclash culture. A dubplate is an
| acetate disc usually of 10 inches diameter, traditionally
| used by studios to test recordings prior to mastering for
| the subsequent pressing of a vinyl record, but pioneered
| by reggae sound systems as a way to play exclusive music.
| They would later become an important facet of the
| jungle/drum and bass, UK garage, grime and dubstep music
| scenes.
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubplate
| dpflan wrote:
| But this phenomenon is real among music purists. There is
| not irony in the real act of exclusively guarding the
| sharing of music that is known to put the listener into
| the state of mind of musical enjoyment unlike anything
| one has heard before. I would argue that is the a main
| point of music, and replaying the same sounds at every
| concert can work but what if the audience had no idea
| what to really expect? Their minds cannot predict and
| hence the stimulus hits different. But again, some minds
| may not want that.
| ecocentrik wrote:
| People usually complain about mid and late stage hipsters. The
| late actors, imitators and wannabes and that keep repeating the
| same behavior to signal ingroup inclusion. But that has more to
| do with the commodification of hipsterisum by millenials
| (hipsters), boomers (hippies) and generations before them.
|
| I'm not really sure what the basis of you complaint is. Has
| anyone else been releasing albums on GeoCities?
| greenie_beans wrote:
| luckily for all the nerds, it's available to listen on youtube:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LJi5na897Y&feature=youtu.be
| jnovek wrote:
| Is someone forcing you to? Blink twice if you need help.
|
| I see this take all the time on HN and Reddit -- trashing
| something in the most cynical way possible because _you
| personally_ don't enjoy it. Things that an outspoken poster
| dislikes are always "marketing" or "karma farming" or "bots".
|
| Why not live and let live? Why not accept that people have
| different tastes and interests? What is their enjoyment taking
| away from you?
| injidup wrote:
| If it were an article that simply was a link to a cool band
| that would be different. The article sets itself up as click
| bait claiming to be "the future music" and making the absurd
| suggestion that we will all soon be getting our music from
| random Geocities sites. It's akin to the claim that we will
| all soon be getting all our calories from home produced
| organic food. As a marketing stunt for one or two bands it's
| great but it doesn't solve the issue of distribution and
| monetisation that most artists have. One has been able to buy
| CD's direct from band sites since ever. The only notable
| thing in the article is the mention of "Geocities" which
| seems to be a trigger word around here for the golden days of
| never were.
| jnovek wrote:
| The impression I got from the article is that some bands
| are experimenting with different distribution media because
| they're not happy with the discoverability or pay from the
| big names like Spotify.
|
| The bit about it being the "future" is mad hyperbole but, I
| dunno, I think it's kinda interesting that people are
| experimenting with distribution methods that they control.
| One of the things that frustrates me about the modern web
| is that it's become such a monoculture dominated by these
| giant vendors like Spotify and Meta. It's pretty rad to see
| people say "no" to that.
|
| I don't know if it's an experiment that will work beyond
| Cindy Lee (it reminds me of Radiohead's "pay what you want"
| distribution of _In Rainbows_ which didn't really work for
| anyone else) but I'm glad they tried.
|
| Also re Geocities: It triggers some rose-tinted nostalgia
| for some of us in a certain age range. E.g. for me I
| learned HTML as a teenager in the late 90s so I could put
| up my own sites on Geocities. It was a formative part of my
| career in tech. It was definitely a mess, though.
| IncreasePosts wrote:
| Upset about discover ability and pay...so choose a method
| that is undiscoverable and no built in method for payment
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| > It's just a marketing stunt
|
| Man, you need something these days. Good for them.
| r721 wrote:
| "Diamond Jubilee" album is currently ranked as "#1 for 2024" on
| RateYourMusic:
|
| https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/cindy-lee/diamond-ju...
| Loughla wrote:
| And this is yet another moment when I learn that musical taste
| is very personal and wildly different between individuals.
|
| Because I just listened to part of that album on YouTube
| (granted I only listened to the first half hour or so).
|
| And I hated it. It's boring, repetitive, and not that good.
|
| But that's my tastes.
|
| Musical taste is always so fascinating, and I legitimately
| believe the best way to get to know someone.
| squigz wrote:
| What does one's musical tastes tell you about one's
| personality?
| gizajob wrote:
| Everyone thinks they have good taste in music... because
| they only like what is to their taste.
| gorgoiler wrote:
| Ariel Pink's _The Doldrums_ -- another anthology of anachronistic
| nostalgia pop down sampled to AM radio quality -- was released
| nearly 24 years ago. It is surprising to not see his work
| mentioned but maybe I'm not looking hard enough, or his
| cancellation has been too thorough?
| whstl wrote:
| True. There's a revival of this kind of music/asthetic that
| happens every 10 or so years, people keep rediscovering it.
| Which is fine. But you can't mention this if you want to make
| it sound fresh.
|
| Either way, the lede here is the web 1.0 website and not the
| music per se, despite the article's title.
| HDThoreaun wrote:
| Ariel Pink is completely done as far as music journalism is
| concerned. After that tucker interview you wont hear about him
| again from critics I think
| joshstrange wrote:
| > "But where I'm at now, in my mind," Flegel said, "you just need
| some regulars. Some people who've got your back, are into what
| you're doing."
|
| This reminds me of "1,000 true fans" [0]. A concept I've always
| liked and been drawn to. The internet has made that more possible
| than ever with things like Patreon. There are a couple podcasts
| in way behind on that I still pay for simply because I like the
| hosts and want to support them, I'd love to see more of that.
|
| [0] https://kk.org/thetechnium/1000-true-fans/
| Valodim wrote:
| So how many things can one person be a true fan of, and what
| does that tell us about how many people can statistically have
| 1000 of them?
| twoodfin wrote:
| Americans spend on average about $3,500 annually on
| entertainment. If we benchmark success of the "true fan"
| model at $100k, that's a $100 annual bar to be a true fan,
| which means the average American could be a true fan for a
| reasonable number of artists.
|
| What "reasonable" means determines the answer to the second
| question, but since we're basically talking about the cost of
| a streaming service, 4 seems like a reasonable number that
| maps closely to today's consumer behavior in that similar
| space.
|
| That's about 1.2 billion aggregate "fanhoods", which leaves
| room for 1.2 million artists if fans are distributed
| uniformly.
|
| But that's extremely unlikely. Typically, this kind of
| interest and attention follows a power law curve, so the real
| number would be much, much lower. Hundreds, most likely.
|
| https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cesan.nr0.htm
| hinkley wrote:
| I would be shocked if the answer to this is not tied up in
| Dunbar numbers. But whether it's proportional or cumulative I
| cannot say.
|
| Could a person who is a true fan of World War I era postage
| stamp lore and still retain a full complement of social links
| or is there a quick point where the obsessions subtract from
| the total number of human contacts a person can sustain? Or
| is it like Sherlock Holmes whom Doyle made afraid of useless
| knowledge for fear of crowding out "important" things like
| the scent of every brand of smoking tobacco and the color and
| texture of every muddy spot in the United Kingsom?
| nutshell89 wrote:
| I'm not quite sure I get it, the album itself is kind of...mid?
| It's 2+ hours of an aggressively boring take on the previous
| decade's music ideals desperately in need of an editor.
|
| Honestly, it solidifies the ideal that with the vast quantity of
| new music released today, that if damn near every song isn't
| worth the listener's time, those songs don't belong on an album,
| they don't belong on a remix album, they don't belong on a deluxe
| edition, they really only have a place in live shows,
| livestreams, or anthologies when you're dead.
| greenie_beans wrote:
| what do u think of this song?
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59XYOjU1Hs&t=170s
| deepspace wrote:
| Not the person you are replying to, but that sounds like an
| attempt to combine Billy Eilish with Godspeed You Black
| Emperor, while not managing to capture the essence of either
| particularly well. The result is utterly uninspiring and
| boring.
| nutshell89 wrote:
| I'm not sure why you set the track playback to the middle of
| song, but it feels very literal. There's the "suffering"
| starting from 2:50 or so from the distortion of the guitars
| -- I guess it reminds me of 56k modems, maybe?
|
| But because that distortion fades completely by ~ 5:00, and
| the track ends at 7:30, it feels like 90 seconds of "dead
| space" so it feels incomplete if that makes any sense. It's a
| song which places its emphasis on the dead center of the
| track, but because it doesn't build on the distortion or play
| off of it -- it kind of overstays it's welcome.
| throwingrocks wrote:
| That's fine. Not everyone needs to "get it". Some like it. Some
| don't. Cool.
| jnovek wrote:
| OMG this. Why do people get so upset because someone else
| likes something that they don't? It's OK to like different
| things.
| MichaelZuo wrote:
| Since when does calling a piece of music or artist mediocre
| indicate 'upset'?
|
| It seems perfectly normal for a large portion of passing
| readers to simply not care that much either way.
| jnovek wrote:
| That's fair. GP doesn't really seem that upset, they just
| don't like the record.
|
| When I wrote this I was coming off another comment where
| the commenter seemed _genuinely_ upset over the
| distribution medium. I think a little bit of my sentiment
| about that post dribbled through.
|
| Even so, I wish people were more live-and-let-live about
| very subjective things like music. It's a big world and
| art is not zero-sum.
| Barrin92 wrote:
| >Why do people get so upset
|
| Probably because of the extraordinary reception mentioned
| in the article and the claim that's being made? This is
| apparently the highest rating Pitchfork has handed out in
| half a decade and it's supposed to be an indicator of a
| major shift in the music industry.
|
| That's quite a lot and after having listened to it I have
| to agree with the original poster, I don't really get it
| either. I expected the next Bowie after those reviews.
| sdenton4 wrote:
| Sadly, pitchfork has recently been gutted. Wouldn't be
| surprised if the new masters are doing this purely for
| PR...
| jnovek wrote:
| Pitchfork was already past its prime in recent years, but
| seeing it gutted by Conde Naste is a bummer.
|
| Have you found a good alternative?
| voidfunc wrote:
| It's always the people who like something that have a
| persecution complex when someone says their thing sucks.
| Maybe look inward for your answers.
| warcher wrote:
| I mean didn't you just describe every performing artist
| ever?
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| Thirty-two tracks.
|
| No real barrier to the distribution of music might just mean
| we're getting less curation from the artists. There was a
| "discipline" that 12" of vinyl imposed that I miss.
| troyvit wrote:
| I was going back through Pink Floyd's discography the other
| day and was reminded that The Wall was a four record album!
| And yeah I do think that exception proves your rule. They
| coulda trimmed that up a wee bit.
| mondobe wrote:
| *four sides, two records. And "only" 80 minutes (not
| derogatory, it's my favorite album).
| mrbluecoat wrote:
| Perhaps Taylor Swift chose a middle ground by releasing both
| a curated set of 16 tracks, then an anthology of 31 tracks.
| wahnfrieden wrote:
| That is a decision about streaming money.
| heresie-dabord wrote:
| Here is discussion about a recent work that impressed me _as
| art_.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39930463
| HDThoreaun wrote:
| Its a concept album that celebrates the last 60 years of music
| history. Understandably a lot happened in those decades and
| cramming all that onto a single LP would lead spirit of the
| beehive style insanity. I think a double LP makes tons of sense
| here, the album is only 2 hours long so not like the length is
| absolutely insane. Obviously its not the tightest, but I think
| that lets the influences shine even more.
|
| Music critics also love concept albums, I think because they
| spend all day listening to music so something unique is
| especially intriguing to them.
| gizajob wrote:
| Seems to only celebrate a tiny little slice of those 60 years
| of music history to my ears.
| ikesau wrote:
| I've loved Pat's music for 15 years now. There's an obsessive
| passion in the people who are into him, trawling for bootlegs and
| demos on soulseek, binge watching old Women live shows on YT. my
| friends excitedly recount the email conversations they've had
| with him, and hell yeah, wavs up for free e-transfer him if you
| can.
|
| Regardless of whether you like the music, I think the larger
| object of his art and our reaction to it is terrific and I wish
| more people could create, discover, and relate to art this way.
| ssfrr wrote:
| Oh man, soulseek brings back serious nostalgia for me. Is it
| still pretty active?
| squigz wrote:
| I've only been using it for a few years, but it's pretty
| great for finding and discovering music.
| msephton wrote:
| I got caught up in this hype when this album hit number one of
| the year so far on rateyourmusic (think of it as letterboxd but
| for music).
|
| So I downloaded it, converted it to a format I could add to
| Music.app and play on my iPhone (for this reason alone it's not
| the future of music), listened to it, was distinctly unimpressed,
| so deleted it. It sounded too derivative.
|
| Since I've heard new music by other artists that did a lot more
| for me.
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| > Since I've heard new music by other artists that did a lot
| more for me.
|
| Feel free to drop names. I'm all ears (ha ha).
| msephton wrote:
| My favourites of the year so far...
|
| album: Yo Irie "Love Affair"
|
| single: LAGHEADS "Your Light"
|
| most anticipated album: Hazel English
|
| A playlist from last year:
| https://blog.gingerbeardman.com/2023/12/31/japanese-music-
| re...
| indigodaddy wrote:
| I mean, like he said, it's kind of alright, but not what I'd
| call great music (I'm listening now and I'm going to have to
| try really really hard to call it good).
|
| Here's some great bands/artists to check out (not saying they
| are in whatever category Cindy Lee wants to be):
|
| Islands (Nick Thorburn/Nick Diamonds/The Unicorns/Mister
| Heavenly)
|
| The Growlers
|
| Blonde Redhead
|
| Bill Callahan
|
| Cat Power (the older stuff especially)
|
| Molly Nilsson
|
| Lady Lamb
|
| Big Thief
|
| Andrew Bird
|
| Chastity Belt
|
| Thao
|
| WHY?
|
| Mark Ribot y los postizos cubanos
|
| Intergalactic Lovers
|
| Felice Brothers
|
| Goran Bregovic
|
| Kevin Morby
|
| Hurray for the riff raff
|
| Cherry Glazerr
|
| Michael Kiwanuka
|
| Hamilton Leithauser
|
| M Ward
|
| Khruangbin
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| Since you're going older, you missed Grandaddy and Jason
| Lytle's solo stuff.
|
| Also Luluc, Courtney Barnett.
| gwill wrote:
| I'm in my early thirties and grew up in the midwest, so i
| feel that plays a bit into my music tastes but Petey has been
| my favorite artist lately. both of his albums are fantastic
| front to back, but i'd start with USA.
| politelemon wrote:
| > for this reason alone it's not the future of music
|
| The opposite - it is a future that your platform hasn't caught
| up with yet.
| msephton wrote:
| I mean I can play FLAC on my iPhone if I want to...but I'd
| rather just drop some files that I don't have to post-process
| in some way onto an app and have them magically appear on all
| my devices. That's the future and we have it today.
|
| Even Bandcamp figured this out and gives me the option to
| choose the type of download that best suits me, and I buy
| much music from there. If Cindy Lee had put this album out on
| their Bandcamp page on a Bandcamp Friday, with the included
| choice of formats, it would be better for everybody. But of
| course that wouldn't have garnered any press about an
| unorthodox method of distribution.
|
| All that to say: a zip of FLACs on a no-frills website is
| definitely not the future of music, regardless of "platform".
| xil3 wrote:
| You think this is the future of music?
|
| https://youtu.be/AG8fJ50sxR8?si=jTsAS_siwnvXCLj2
| abathur wrote:
| They mean this: https://youtu.be/_LJi5na897Y
| ksherlock wrote:
| I'm disappointed that this wasn't a rickroll.
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| Did anyone pick up vibes here of Pattern Recognition from William
| Gibson?
|
| The use of old web1 web sites, small quirky art pieces being left
| on back corners of internet to only be appreciated by small group
| 'in the know', the 1000 true fans.
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| If that's web1, what might the other integers be?
|
| web0: blue/purple links in black text on grey, with occasional
| HRs
|
| web-1: MacPaint/Hypercard
|
| web-2: -=> T E X T f i l e s <=-
|
| web-n: illuminated parchments
|
| web-2n: cuneiform tablets
|
| web-3n: bullae labels
|
| web-4n: cave paintings
| FrustratedMonky wrote:
| Maybe add Printing Press. Gutenberg Bible.
|
| I'd vote for Printing Press to be some 'zero' point.
| ricokatayama wrote:
| Jack Conte was very spot on in his SXSW talk this year
| https://youtu.be/5zUndMfMInc?si=2SqvZIyYi7QLKqmV
| msephton wrote:
| TL;DR recommends using Patreon and avoiding platforms with
| algorithmic feeds (disclaimer: the speaker is the creator of
| Patreon)
| mynegation wrote:
| The music itself sounds more like the past than the future of
| music and I guess indie is just not my cup of tea, but as a fan
| of some other obscure bands and styles, I can relate. Even then I
| do not think it is the future of music distribution, more like
| marketing gimmick. I am a software developer and I still dread
| the idea of making downloaded files available on my iPhone. If it
| is not on Spotify it may just as well not exist.
| Semaphor wrote:
| It's a bit different, but Indian extreme metal label Transcending
| Obscurity has had several bands release two days early on
| bandcamp (I know for sure about Vorga [0] and Replicant [1]), and
| indie black metal band Adon [2] simply decided to stay bandcamp
| exclusive for a week before releasing on streaming platforms.
|
| I very much appreciate those :)
|
| There are, usually big-ish and famous-ish, bands who do the
| opposite, only release on streaming, leaving me no way to buy the
| album, also those only releasing on something like Amazon (which
| then requires me to get the disk to rip it myself, raising the
| buy-rating for me from 3.5 to 4/5), and of course also Japanese
| artists who often don't seem to care about western audiences at
| all with their music only available on Japanese sites.
|
| [0]: https://vorgaband.bandcamp.com/album/beyond-the-palest-star
|
| [1]: https://replicantband.bandcamp.com/album/infinite-mortality
|
| [2]: https://adonmetal.bandcamp.com/album/adon
| evo_9 wrote:
| These comments are embarrassing. It's a landmark album and being
| recognized as such by critics and us lifelong hardcore music
| fans. You see it's not for any of you, or rather very few. It's a
| sort of love letter to me and my ilk, aka those of us that
| started collecting records when we were teens and went on to own
| indie record stores in the 80/90s and early 2000 before most of
| them were shuttered. There are hints of Spacemen 3, Velvet
| Underground, hell even some more obscure nods to forgotten bands
| like Boo Radley, Crime and The City Solution and many many more.
| If you are not steeped in musical experience this record will not
| land with you. But for me and about 6 of my oldest collector
| friends (all in our 50s now) this is a towering achievement by a
| single person that wrote nearly every note on the record. On top
| of all that there is the utterly brilliant GeoCities website with
| its decidedly Twin Peaks vibe and oh so much fun to blade runner
| zoom around. Brilliance like this shines only a few times in life
| and us ex NeptureRecords and Play It Again forgotten staff and
| friends of those great record stores are having the time of our
| lives listening to the entries 2+ hours daily.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| I hear you. For example, I literally cannot find anyone I
| interact with who has even heard of this band called Islands
| (Nick Thorburn), but they are probably my favorite band of all
| time.
| evanelias wrote:
| I was initially surprised to read this sentiment, since his
| prior band The Unicorns was relatively popular in indie rock
| circles. Then I realized that was a full two decades ago, and
| I suddenly felt old...
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Imo Return to The Sea is a masterpiece, but also confess to
| live all subsequent Islands albums.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_the_Sea
| raincole wrote:
| ... People expressing their preferences are "embarrassing"?
| People _have to_ like something because critics say so?
| greenie_beans wrote:
| it's been interesting to see the public reaction to this album.
| i'm excited they're finally getting some well-deserved
| acclaimed.
|
| all the haters are so fascinating. everybody chiming in about
| this artist, somebody they didn't know anything about until
| last week. like how everybody became an epidemiologist in 2020,
| financial expert in 2021-2022, ai expert 2023, bridge expert
| 2024, war strategist in 2022, etc.
| jrflowers wrote:
| This is an excellent point. People have been discussing the
| album and music industry trends and have neglected to broach
| the most fundamental topic at hand here: that evo_9 is the
| poster that is best at listening to music
| indigodaddy wrote:
| It's interesting music. Two tracks through, I'm not exactly sure
| how/what to think about it, but I'll keep listening for now.
| Maybe Beck meets Lord Huron meets Bill Callahan?
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Today's a great day - what a delightful 2000's throwback on all
| fronts. I wonder if there's any connection between this article
| and the rumored Pitchfork -> GQ reorg.
| m3kw9 wrote:
| In the pre-streaming era, Radio Heads In Rainbow is one of the
| best albums and it was distributed as a pay what you want.
|
| It's a cut the middle man move, it may be more trouble than it's
| worth because the distribution channel is a pain to setup
| sandyarmstrong wrote:
| Yeah, that was really cool. A couple of years before that,
| Harvey Danger (yes, the Flagpole Sitta band) literally released
| their album Little by Little on BitTorrent. I loved that move,
| and it also happened to be a great album.
| m3kw9 wrote:
| In the future if artists can get their way, they would release
| this as an exclusive for 2 weeks on a site then release it on
| streaming. 1. People would pay to listen to it first. 2. People
| will still use stream to listen subsequently as it is easier.
|
| Negative side is that streaming service may not like it, and
| people will spin it as a rip off even if it technically isn't.
| solomonb wrote:
| I feel strongly that the future of media content will be a search
| for human authenticity buried under an ocean of generic generated
| content.
| coldtea wrote:
| > _I like Diamond Jubilee and am happy to pay for music, but
| downloading files and loading them onto my iPhone feels archaic
| and time-consuming._
|
| Then perhaps you don't care for music (or for that music) as much
| as you think, you value conviencece more?
|
| Watch some cat videos, they'll readily available for streaming
| from everywhere.
| aqme28 wrote:
| This is, I think, the same idea that has given vinyl such a
| strong resurgence in the last few years.
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