[HN Gopher] ISPs can charge extra for fast gaming under FCC's In...
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ISPs can charge extra for fast gaming under FCC's Internet rules,
critics say
Author : pseudolus
Score : 35 points
Date : 2024-04-16 20:54 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| ado__dev wrote:
| RIP Internet of old. The Internet is truly going to shit from all
| angles. Squeezed by ever rising costs to get on the net.
| Bombarded by ads on every single page (trying to browse the net
| on a mobile device and most sites take up 40-50% of screen real
| estate on ads). Subs on top of subs for every single service. We
| really are entering a dark era.
| tester756 wrote:
| Consider using Firefox + some kind of adblock
| screamingninja wrote:
| Try NextDNS: https://nextdns.io/
| gamepsys wrote:
| We must be on different internets. The one I'm on is having a
| golden era.
|
| * My current ISP offers greater than 1000/1000 fiber for a
| smaller monthly payment than my first home broadband connection
| in 2003. Adjust for inflation it's probably 1/2 the cost while
| being over 50 times better. It's incomparable to the dial up
| before then.
|
| * I don't see a lot of ads on the internet. If I see an ad on a
| website I either upgrade my adblock or I stop going to that
| website.
|
| * I don't have a ton of subscription services. If you were to
| tally my subscription services and weigh them against what I
| previously used for competing services I am saving a ton of
| money. Cable TV, DVDs, and CDs were expensive.
|
| * It's so casual and fun to jump on a voice call with a group
| of friends to play a game, or someone shares a screen of an
| anime and we have a little movie night. It's so easy to see
| what games my friends are playing. It's so easy to watch any
| movie I want, or listen to any song that I want, or play any
| game I want. The tools to have fun online are way better than
| ever.
|
| * It's possible to learn about anything I am curious about. You
| can do everything, from getting a highschool level lecture to
| read the latest research from the top researchers. I often find
| experts willing to answer my questions, even though I am coming
| in as a complete stranger.
|
| * I absolutely love the move towards more independent
| publishing. The number of interesting people I follow on
| twitter, or youtube, or watch on twitch is insane. Before the
| internet media felt like a monoculture with everyone watching
| the same 40 channels on TV every night. I'm subscribed to indie
| newsletters instead of magazines. I'm watching Starcraft 2
| tournaments instead of the superbowl. Some of this was around
| before the internet, but it's much more now and the long term
| trend is looking great.
|
| * I can get involved in so many interesting conversations, and
| I rarely have problems finding interesting conversations to
| listen in on or join in on. People from all walks of life, with
| all kinds of perspectives.
| ZoomerCretin wrote:
| This opens the door wide enough for extortion and the end of net
| neutrality, and for this to happen again:
|
| > Second, that the company repeatedly promised reliable, "no
| buffering," "no lag" internet, especially to services like
| Netflix or to online games like League of Legends, but was in
| fact purposefully letting the interconnections between TWC and
| outside companies degrade to an alarming degree -- unless the
| companies, like Netflix, were willing to start paying for access
| to TWC customers.
|
| > https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/02/time-warner-cable-la...
| transpute wrote:
| Which service tier would apply to ssh/vpn traffic?
| ronsor wrote:
| Premium Max Business Plus tier only, starting at $399/month for
| 50GB of uncapped speed data
| dartos wrote:
| I remember having a cellphone in 2009 too.
| Jhsto wrote:
| The title seems to not include that this is about 5G. The next
| question then is how many gamers really use mobile broadband in
| the US? Ericsson making the claim that people are willing to pay
| more for low latency might be the case in the Nordics where
| uncapped mobile broadband starts from 3 euros/m and fiber is not
| always available.
| xyst wrote:
| There used to (currently?) be a revolving door between bank
| regulators and banking industry.
|
| Bank regulators would "retire" after a deregulation push then
| banking industry would so happen to hire that same person as some
| midlevel executive or director. GS was infamous for this [1]
|
| Wonder if we see the same between telcos/major ISPs and FCC
|
| [1]
| https://web.archive.org/web/20140220160810/http://www.nytime...
|
| [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolving_door_(politics)
| wmf wrote:
| Ajit Pai went from DOJ antitrust to Verizon back to DOJ and
| then to the FCC.
| 0xcde4c3db wrote:
| I find NN to be a tricky issue because the devil is very much in
| the details, and the history of "platforms" and "networks" in the
| abstract is a rich text (especially _viz._ some pretty obnoxious
| examples of brinkmanship where multiple parties were all
| convinced that they were the pivotal gatekeeper to the audience
| /customer base, e.g. [1]) .
|
| I don't think there's necessarily a problem with having multiple
| service tiers where low latency/jitter or high throughput is only
| _guaranteed_ on a higher tier. But if the network is rigged so
| that low-tier customers get a bad experience even in low-demand
| conditions, there 's almost certainly some unethical fuckery
| going on. Basically, there's probably some point where "best
| effort" needs to be imposed as a baseline rather than a premium
| option.
|
| [1] https://www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/company-town-
| blog/sto...
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