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       AI-Startup Launches Ever-Expanding Library of Free Stock Photos and
       Music
        
       Author : nen-nomad
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2024-04-13 16:42 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | naiv wrote:
       | I wonder if these images might still get you in trouble if they
       | show copyrighted work like the Eiffeltower at night, the opera
       | house in Sydney or Atomium in Brussels
        
         | UberFly wrote:
         | Yea. The first front page image I see is Batman. More "AI
         | democratizing art" , but really just more IP stealing.
        
       | anonymous344 wrote:
       | awesome project, might not last long if server costs arise.
       | 
       | but where are the images from ? scraped or self generated? how
       | can i make sure that they are not copyrighted?
        
         | binarymax wrote:
         | Completely obvious they are generated. Just zoom in on anything
         | that has text and it's easy to notice.
        
         | jazzyjackson wrote:
         | machine generated works cannot be copyrighted, but its a legal
         | gray area as to whether creating the images violates copyright
         | (in my opinion it is not fair use, as it displaces the market
         | value of the work it is a derivative of)
        
           | nadermx wrote:
           | But the use of each work is very minuscule in sum and is
           | generally, if not always, an original new work. How is a Mona
           | Lisa in the style of Van Gho a violation of the copyright of
           | Mona Lisa or Van Gho? It is a new and unique work. Makes it a
           | legitimate use. In fact, in certain cases the entire work can
           | be used and is considered fair use.
        
             | sebastiennight wrote:
             | Americans do pronounce his name "Venn Gho", but it is
             | spelled Van Gogh!
             | 
             | Interestingly enough, there are many pronunciations of Van
             | Gogh's name [1] (we French people say "Gog" rhyming with
             | "dog"), but the rarest one is probably the one from his own
             | native Brabant dialect.
             | 
             | [1]:
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_van_Gogh#cite_note-5
        
               | nadermx wrote:
               | I was more so talking about Van Gho the music artist[0],
               | mixed with a bit of Mona Lisa the band[1]. But to each
               | their own
               | 
               | [0] https://www.facebook.com/VanGhoMusic/ [1]
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa_(band)
        
             | jazzyjackson wrote:
             | I agree that images produced are not derivatives of any
             | particular copyrighted work, instead they are derivative of
             | all copyrighted work. I don't think OpenAI et al should get
             | a free pass for finding a way to rip everyone off at once,
             | but it's certainly a new frontier in law, hence the gray
             | area.
        
       | dvh wrote:
       | I typed "Fly Fisher releasing chub" and it found nothing. I don't
       | get it.
        
       | gmuslera wrote:
       | The images are generated, but the training set may be argued or
       | not that they had some rights attached, even it they were the
       | ones that the social network where they were posted and scrapped
       | from had.
       | 
       | There are is money to be made in a way or another, same with
       | music, wouldn't be surprised if this kind of projects get hit
       | directly or indirectly because of this.
        
         | andy99 wrote:
         | Yeah it's going to be a lightning rod for copyright trolls if
         | it gets popular. Ultimately that's a good thing. There's
         | precedents that need to be worked out, and if they go the wrong
         | way, consequences that will need to be lived with that
         | hopefully restore common sense. It's not that different from
         | the Napster days other than an infinitely weaker case for the
         | copyright trolls.
        
       | abraae wrote:
       | I'm working on a golf startup atm, so this is relevant.
       | 
       | These are certainly generated, as virtually every golf club has
       | an insane and unworkable head, just like Midjourney. AI doesn't
       | seem to focus on that level of detail. Take this one for example
       | which would launch the ball somewhere into the sun:
       | https://stockcake.com/i/golf-swing-action_656275_515716
       | 
       | Others look something like a soup plate attached to a stick, and
       | it is common to see right handed players using left handed clubs.
        
         | jazzyjackson wrote:
         | that's quite an uncomfortable pose, makes me feel similar to
         | stock photos of someone holding a soldering iron like it's a
         | pencil
        
           | genter wrote:
           | Umm, isn't that how you're supposed to hold it? At least
           | that's how I do.
        
             | jazzyjackson wrote:
             | I don't know how to hold a golf club but if you mean the
             | soldering iron, I don't hold a pencil from 6 inches off the
             | paper. Google "soldering iron stock photo" to see the
             | alternative. As a friend of mine says, "if you smell cooked
             | chicken, you're holding it wrong."
        
         | jsheard wrote:
         | I'm no golf expert but I don't think this is how you do it
         | 
         | https://stockcake.com/i/golfers-perfect-swing_656278_515716
         | 
         | They have some very specific niches covered though, such as
         | "soldier petting a dog with both right hands"
         | 
         | https://stockcake.com/i/soldier-embracing-dog_655559_294061
         | 
         | And "cat space adventure, wait, oh god we accidentally
         | overfitted the model on dogecoin memes"
         | 
         | https://stockcake.com/i/cosmic-cat-adventure_353671_432927
        
           | csa wrote:
           | You haven't seen me play.
        
         | tveita wrote:
         | It mushes all the concepts together into very recognizable AI
         | soup.
         | 
         | Let's see how it does with Native American
         | 
         | https://stockcake.com/i/historical-handshake-moment_626739_3...
         | 
         | https://stockcake.com/i/historical-handshake-moment_626741_3...
         | 
         | These could cause some upset... If you have to do this maybe at
         | least avoid publishing anything tagged "History"?
         | 
         | https://stockcake.com/i/reindeer-caravan-march_309941_464989
         | 
         | Northern natives all have horns, right?
        
       | dulvui wrote:
       | I checked out some pictures and some human hands have only 4
       | fingers. Did they use the Simpons as training set?
        
       | abound wrote:
       | I quickly perused StockCake's website to see where their training
       | data/models came from, but couldn't find anything.
       | 
       | Depending on the licenses of the content it was trained on, this
       | could be an elaborate way of "laundering" commercial stock photos
       | and other content.
       | 
       | Of course, the legality of such things is being very actively
       | litigated, will be interesting to see where it lands.
        
       | anonymous344 wrote:
       | Must add that even if this is is not 100% quality, it is a HUUUGE
       | threat to paid stock photos... I mean for 0 dollars why wouldn't
       | you lower your bar little bit... or with some photos you get much
       | better results with ai.
       | 
       | I'll bet Adobe or similiar will buy this 0,5 mil and just delete
        
       | sebastiennight wrote:
       | Wish they offered an API, this way they could commoditize two
       | industries (stock photo and AI image-gen) in one fell swoop!
        
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