[HN Gopher] Untergunther - Restoration of the Pantheon clock (2007)
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Untergunther - Restoration of the Pantheon clock (2007)
Author : louismerlin
Score : 101 points
Date : 2024-04-10 05:10 UTC (2 days ago)
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| lb1lf wrote:
| Stories like this restores my faith in humanity.
|
| Using skill and irreverence for the common good, making the
| restoration basically a piece of performance art in itself.
|
| I'd buy the UnterGunthers a beer.
| IncreasePosts wrote:
| Lacking historical pizzazz, but you might enjoy this:
| https://thelandmag.com/richard-ankrom-guerrilla-public-servi...
|
| A man created a "fake" highway sign in LA because he saw how
| confused the lack of signage made motorists, and it took a long
| time for anyone to tell it wasn't actually real.
| lb1lf wrote:
| I remember this got posted to HN some time, and absolutely
| loved it - particularly as the sign was for all intents and
| purposes perfect and flew under the radar even of the
| authority which would normally have been tasked with putting
| it up for months - heck, they even left it in place after
| having found out it was a guerilla piece!
|
| His observation that if you look the part, you can get away
| with just about anything matches my experience, though - when
| in university, the students' union I belonged to had all
| sorts of hi-vis vests and hard-hats which were used if we had
| planned any shenanigans - worked every time.
|
| You'll get farther with a hi-vis vest with a reasonable logo
| on it and a smile than with a smile alone. Bonus points if
| you also carry a clipboard and a VHF radio.
| seabass-labrax wrote:
| I think it's wonderful that people are restoring public objects
| of historical value, but nowhere does the article explain why
| this has to be clandestine.
|
| The article says that Monum's leadership didn't want to publicise
| the repair, but why would they? It would be a tacit admission
| that illegal entry into protected historical sites is justifiable
| for the purpose of 'guerilla restoration' - wherever such a
| position is valid or not, endorsing it would indeed compromise
| Monum and similar organisations. Monsieur Jeannot was surely
| right in this regard.
|
| That leaves me wondering why simply asking wasn't an option. Are
| Monum really so resistant to offers of restoration that a few
| phone calls and a press release couldn't have done the job,
| saving both sides a lawsuit?
| lb1lf wrote:
| I believe it is a fair assumption that 'simply asking' would
| entail all sorts of red tape the UnterGunthers simply weren't
| interested in; after all, Monum would want all sorts of
| assurances that the restorers wouldn't mess up things,
| insurance would have to be organized, assessments made &c
| (Which, don't get me wrong, are all not just reasonable
| demands, but really what any responsible authority SHOULD do in
| such cases.
|
| I suspect that would simply take all the fun out of it. So,
| Monum's stance is definitely valid, as is, in this particular
| case, at least, UnterGunther's.
|
| And the less is spoken of the guerilla gorilla Jesus [0], the
| better.
|
| [0] https://news.artnet.com/art-world/botched-restoration-of-
| jes...
| blkhawk wrote:
| I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it would take the fun
| out of it even tho thats undoubtedly true. I think they had
| no reasonable chance of matching any requirements on paper
| and it would just end up keep getting neglected. Its a
| situation without good outcomes as long as you stay inside
| the guiderails.
|
| And as for that Botched restauration I think the less
| politically correct term for it was "monkey with down
| syndrome" at the time. :)
| addaon wrote:
| > I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it would take the
| fun out of it even tho thats undoubtedly true.
|
| It's hard to think of a more justifiable situation in which
| to jump to a conclusion than one in which the conclusion is
| undoubtedly true.
| blkhawk wrote:
| People do unfun things if they belive the results are
| worth it. I get the vibe here that it was simply
| impossible to get this done above board because of a
| deadlock situation.
| scintill76 wrote:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecce_Homo_(Garc%C3%ADa_Mart%...
| comes to mind as a reason to deny offers of free restoration
| from small groups.
| userbinator wrote:
| Thank you for providing my dose of humour today.
|
| _In the year following the failed restoration, tourist
| activity generated 40,000 visits and more than EUR50,000 for
| a local charity_
| basementcat wrote:
| 2012 Wired magazine article about the group.
| https://www.wired.com/story/the-new-french-underground/
| rawling wrote:
| Presumably related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39976483
| codezero wrote:
| Caltrain officials built those for personal benefit. The
| article here is about a restoration for public good.
| hunter2_ wrote:
| Indeed, a comment on that submission yesterday contains the
| same link as this submission:
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39977574
|
| Quite likely that OP found it, and decided to submit it, based
| on that comment.
| DontBreakAlex wrote:
| The leadership of the monument changed in 2018 and they hired the
| guy to finish the restoration:
| https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/12-ans-apres-sa-res...
| (In French)
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