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Libgourou: A Free Implementation of Adobe's Adept DRM on ePub/PDF
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Author : gorky1
Score : 80 points
Date : 2024-04-10 18:49 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (forge.soutade.fr)
(TXT) w3m dump (forge.soutade.fr)
| edent wrote:
| I've used this several times to read books I've legally
| purchased. An indispensable bit of software.
| kstrauser wrote:
| I adamantly believe that this is morally and ethically OK in
| all situations. If you buy a copy of a book, it's your right to
| read it on any device of yours you want, even ones that haven't
| been manufactured yet. I bought a copy of Stephen King's "The
| Stand" 30 years ago and it's still on a bookshelf here ready
| for me to read at any time. If I'd bought an ebook copy of it
| instead, I'm just as ethically permitted to read it however and
| whenever I choose.
|
| Before anyone bothers "correcting" me with nonsense about
| buying a license instead of a copy, don't bother. As we speak,
| the Amazon page for that book says "buy now", not "buy a
| license now", or "license now". By any reasonable
| interpretation of reality, I'd be buying a copy of it. That
| doesn't mean it would be OK to share that copy outside my
| household, any more than I could photocopy a physical version
| and pass it around. It's impossible to convince me that it's
| wrong to share a copy with my wife, any more than it'd be wrong
| to lend her my physical copy after I'm done reading it.
| WolfeReader wrote:
| (Devil's advocate here)
|
| When you made an Amazon account, and each time you purchase
| one of their ebooks, you agree to their "Terms of Service",
| which states that you won't do some of the things you want to
| do with your ebook. Amazon wouldn't sell/license you the book
| if you told them you were going to break the DRM and read it
| on a Kobo.
|
| In effect, you're lying to Amazon in order to use their
| property in a way they specifically don't want you to.
|
| (Devil's advocate done)
|
| Can I ask you to consider buying your ebooks from a better
| vendor? Kobo is a good choice; they state whether or not a
| given book is DRM-free or not; if it's DRM-free, that's a
| clear win - and even when they do include DRM, it's Adobe, so
| you can load it on any e-reader (except Kindle (except if you
| use KOReader)). Google Play Books are basically the same as
| Kobo, but they don't state up-front if a book has DRM or not.
|
| Also, it's pretty common for technical books and some fiction
| presses to sell e-books directly on their site, and those
| never have DRM in my experience.
|
| On the other hand, supporting Amazon is supporting a company
| who wants to promote DRM aggressively. And you can almost
| always find the same books elsewhere.
| VS1999 wrote:
| Whenever someone invokes the "terms of service" I just get
| annoyed. I live in the US where we have absolutely no
| consumer rights and every company can put anything they
| want in the ToS or EULA, and if it violates the law they
| aren't punished (such as illegal warranty restrictions).
| Most EULAs even have a clause that says something like "if
| any part of this contract is illegal, ignore it and the
| rest is still enforced". If companies can put anything they
| want into it and aren't punished for breaking the law, it's
| 100% up to consumers to ignore the ToS and ignore the EULA
| as much as possible.
|
| And if you're really paying for a limited license to use
| their property, they should have to call it that. Amazon
| calls it a "store" where you "buy" the books. They'd make a
| lot less sales if the "buy now with 1 click" button said
| "purchase a limited license to access this book for some
| period of time".
| kstrauser wrote:
| The devil doesn't need an advocate. You think he's running
| low on lawyers?
|
| But I agree with you about buying from Amazon. I haven't
| bought an ebook from them in at least many years, perhaps
| not ever that I remember. I've never owned a Kindle and I'm
| not sure I could even load one of their books on my Kobo
| (or the Nook I owned way back when). I buy most of my books
| from Kobo's store, but also check out a lot from my library
| via Libby. I recently bought a bundle of Cory Doctorow's
| books from Tor (through Humble Bundle), and I downloaded
| plenty from Standard Ebooks.
|
| If there's a book I'd like to read that's _only_ available
| from Amazon, I haven 't stumbled across it yet.
| szundi wrote:
| Is it stealing when someone buys a book legally and then
| downloads it drm-free to save it for future use? (As should be
| normal)
| reaperducer wrote:
| In the United States, possibly not because of _Sony vs.
| Universal Studios._
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Uni...
| .
|
| In other countries, your mileage will most definitely vary.
|
| (IAtotallyNAL)
| imzadi wrote:
| Apparently it IS illegal to bypass access controls but not copy
| controls.
|
| https://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/circumventing-copyright-con...
| Quarrel wrote:
| This entirely depends on your local jurisdiction.
|
| Even in the US, not all of this is settled law.
| aidenn0 wrote:
| Definitely not stealing. Maybe illegal, depending on your local
| laws.
| kstrauser wrote:
| Stealing: absolutely not.
|
| Legally OK: depends on jurisdiction, I imagine.
|
| Morally OK: 100% of the time, as long as the ebook is identical
| to the physical one other than its format. That is, if you
| could scan and OCR the physical book and end up with the same
| result as the ebook, yes. If the ebook comes with extra content
| that you would not have access to without buying it in that
| format, I would say that's not OK. (Table of contents and
| indexes that link directly to a page rather than just listing
| its page number don't count in my opinion. Those are just the
| electronic equivalents of the paper indexing system.)
| alwayslikethis wrote:
| Is downloading ever copyright infringement? I was under the
| impression that it is the uploading, i.e. distributing that is
| illegal, not receiving the copy.
| GaggiX wrote:
| It wouldn't be stealing if you just pirated it, at least in
| court.
| milianw wrote:
| I managed to read some books rented via the Berlin library system
| (voebb onleihe) using this software, really great work!
| brunoqc wrote:
| Is it the same program that was removed from github because of a
| DMCA claim?
| mdaniel wrote:
| apparently the answer is "yes and no," with yes
| https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=libgourou+site%3Agithub.com...
| and no because those are still in place. That said, I _think_ a
| DMCA only catches forks, not "git push" clones as a lot of
| those appear to be
| gorky1 wrote:
| I'd say this doesn't bypass anything, it's just some kind of
| virtual device? I'm using it to read legally purchased books on
| unsupported hardware.
| criddell wrote:
| Would it be the same as using an emulator to play a Nintendo
| game on your PC?
| gorky1 wrote:
| That would be totally illegal if Nintendo was making the
| laws, but yes, pretty much.
| sshine wrote:
| I'm probably reading this wrong, but "gourou" (Gou Rou ) is dog
| meat in Chinese.
| WolfeReader wrote:
| https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/gourou
|
| Given that the hosting site is on a French domain, I'm guessing
| this is the intended meaning.
| sedivy94 wrote:
| Isn't the pinyin for "Rou " typically "ro"?
| strongly-typed wrote:
| No, it's rou
| RobotToaster wrote:
| Is this for lcpl files like those "borrowed" from archive.org?
| nfw2 wrote:
| I've been trying to get access to Adobe's RMSDK for months, but
| their email is just a brick wall. A dev I know who works at Adobe
| said he can't find any internal docs for it either. Does anyone
| know what's going on with it?
|
| Anyway, this is a godsend, so thank you!
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