[HN Gopher] Udio: Generate music in your favorite styles with a ...
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       Udio: Generate music in your favorite styles with a text prompt
        
       Author : gk1
       Score  : 113 points
       Date   : 2024-04-10 18:10 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | politelemon wrote:
       | I can't see past the first post in that Twitter link. Might be
       | better to link straight to their site.
       | 
       | https://www.udio.com/
        
         | rajko_rad wrote:
         | that is the only place they launched, no blog post or anything
         | like that on the website!
        
         | UncleOxidant wrote:
         | I wish I could downvote submissions that are only xitter links.
         | Do you ever get enough karma on HN to be able to downvote
         | submissions? Seems they can only be upvoted.
        
           | ziddoap wrote:
           | Submissions do not have downvotes. Some people use the flag
           | feature as a sort of super-downvote.
        
             | geuis wrote:
             | Yeah but don't do this. Flagging is not a downvote, its
             | intended to mark an item for review. Using it as a downvote
             | leads to losing the ability to flag.
        
       | og_kalu wrote:
       | Dune the broadway musical -
       | https://www.udio.com/songs/eY7xtug1dV6hbfCDhyHJua
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       | You get 1200 free songs per month. I'd say it's a lot better than
       | Suno v3. Sound quality and vocal variations are especially
       | better.
        
       | diydsp wrote:
       | No option to create an account w email(!)
        
         | devin wrote:
         | Yeah, I was sad to see that. It's in beta so here's hoping they
         | provide another option at some point.
        
         | fairramone wrote:
         | Was disappointed about this myself.
        
         | gwern wrote:
         | Suno doesn't do that either. I think it may be an anti-
         | spam/leech mechanism - outsource sybil prevention to
         | Google/Discord.
        
       | IBCNU wrote:
       | This one feels like it's going to be disruptive, good luck, very
       | impressed with the lyric generation compared to others I've
       | tinkered with, jukebox, musicgen, surprised personally to see it
       | move so fast :bow:
        
       | conormdurkan wrote:
       | Hey everyone, Conor from the founding team here. We're delighted
       | to launch today, and are very much looking forward to seeing what
       | people create!
        
         | chillingeffect wrote:
         | We've been paying a content team of 3 people with a 4th req
         | open. If the generation time of Udio goes down once the initial
         | rush of publicity passes, I can cancel hiring that 4th
         | musician.
        
         | zaptrem wrote:
         | Neat! Is this a diffusion model, language model (e.g.,
         | SoundStorm from your former colleagues), or something else?
        
         | saaaaaam wrote:
         | Curious to know how you trained this... did you licence all the
         | songs and recordings that you used?
        
         | IanCal wrote:
         | Looks like you're hitting some issues with a big influx, would
         | like to try things but I'm getting errors and songs entirely
         | unrelated to what I've entered, is there a status page to check
         | on to see when it's worth coming back to?
        
         | 999900000999 wrote:
         | So here's my feature request.
         | 
         | Let me upload beats, and have the AI rap or sing over it!
         | 
         | I will have no problem paying for that.
         | 
         | Also, while we're talking about pipe dreams, generate a lyric
         | video for me too so I can upload it to YouTube!
         | 
         | Edit: For the pro option give us stems!
        
         | artninja1988 wrote:
         | Great work and I'm excited to see more competition in this
         | space.The vocals do seem more impressive / less wooden than
         | Suno. Would really love to see a future of more controlability
         | and separating out the different audio tracks for vocals etc.
         | Best of luck and hope the corporate landlords and RIAA Golems
         | don't come after you, haha
        
         | JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote:
         | Are the TOS legal in your country, especially the part about
         | the
         | 
         | > Section 9 [which] contains an arbitration clause and class
         | action waiver
         | 
         | It's strange seeing this.
        
         | UncleOxidant wrote:
         | Make it so we can setup an account with email.
        
         | geuis wrote:
         | This should link to your site, not a Twitter post.
        
         | velcrovan wrote:
         | Whose music did you use to train this thing?
        
         | mandmandam wrote:
         | This is genuinely awesome. As others have said, I didn't expect
         | AI music to get so far this quick. You guys have even done a
         | nice job on the interface, though the tags are a little warped
         | (Firefox on Mac).
         | 
         | I expect this to be a global phenomenon by next week, so,
         | slightly premature congrats!
        
         | Reubend wrote:
         | Any plans to support stem export, or at least do instrumentals
         | without the vocals?
        
         | RomanHauksson wrote:
         | Hey Conor, congrats on the launch! Will there be an API any
         | time soon? I'm currently working on a hobby project that uses
         | an unofficial API for Suno, but would love to switch it to Udio
         | if possible.
        
       | hummusFiend wrote:
       | Is the name a reference to Rdio[1]?
       | 
       | [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rdio
        
         | beardyw wrote:
         | Possibly audio without the 'a'.
        
       | mellosouls wrote:
       | Example styles on the site:
       | 
       | Gospel:
       | 
       | https://www.udio.com/songs/uUjAaApMbjmMqBoj6Z6dsd
       | 
       | Barbershop
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       | https://www.udio.com/songs/282ZPSyaunNC8GjegZ1LD1
        
       | ericra wrote:
       | This looks great, and your examples seem very high-quality.
       | 
       | I'm curious to play with it, but I'm always weary of signing into
       | things with my Google / other accounts. Any plans to have the
       | option to just make an account for your site (unless I'm missing
       | it)?
        
         | UncleOxidant wrote:
         | Same. I'm not going to connect my Google or Discord accounts to
         | this and I don't have a Xitter account.
        
       | jaggs wrote:
       | Service is completely slammed. Taking upwards of 40 minutes and
       | counting to generate any tracks. Suno does it in 10 seconds or
       | so. Early days...
        
       | bauerd wrote:
       | Says "background processing error" for everything I submit
       | eventually
        
       | henriquecm8 wrote:
       | The search doesn't seem to work very well.
       | 
       | For example, I searched for "Hard techno", term which was
       | included in the title of a song I listened in the platform.
       | 
       | It returned several unrelated songs, the first result is a
       | country song that doesn't contain the word "hard" or "techno"
       | anywhere in the lyric or the prompt, and the song I listened
       | before was the last on the list.
        
       | bravura wrote:
       | Sorry, where did we all get the idea that we want to use text to
       | generate music? That thought really has never entered my head,
       | despite many people trying to shove this UX down my throat. Is it
       | just that we don't have creative thinking about what a
       | transformative music creation UX should be?
       | 
       | "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."
        
         | cqqxo4zV46cp wrote:
         | I highly doubt that anyone cares about you, specifically,
         | enough, to be 'shoving this down your throat'. Plenty of people
         | have been enjoying this category of software. Sorry to hear
         | that you don't like it. That doesn't mean that the world agrees
         | with you.
        
           | bravura wrote:
           | Look, I know I am coming across a bit of a prick.
           | 
           | "Plenty of people have been enjoying this category of
           | software." Really? I ask sincerely. Because it seems to me
           | that this category of software is mostly a curiosity /
           | novelty. Are there actual publishing musicians who have used
           | text-to-music as part of their workflow?
           | 
           | My perception is that no one actually uses these tools for
           | real music creation. Hence my point that they are novelty and
           | not actually impactful.
        
             | bravura wrote:
             | And just to contribute to the discussion in a meaningful
             | way:
             | 
             | The problem with text-to-music isn't really that text is a
             | poor UX for music description, but also that it's almost
             | definitely a one-shot process. And any sort of turn-taking
             | with the user isn't really co-collaborative, it's really
             | just being forced to accept or reject what the AI has
             | generated, with little feedback or control possible.
             | 
             | That's why I think rethinking the entire UX from a musician
             | centric perspective (rather than: "what's the easiest thing
             | for me to specify as a tool-builder? I know, text to
             | music") is such an overlooked endeavor. I'm much more
             | bullish about things like the anticipatory music
             | transformer, where there is novel contribution on the UX
             | and not just the ML:
             | https://crfm.stanford.edu/2023/06/16/anticipatory-music-
             | tran...
        
             | bongodongobob wrote:
             | Oh they are definitely using it, but no one is going to
             | admit it.
             | 
             | You misunderstand the workflow. I'm not trying to create a
             | text prompt that generates hits. It's a way to get ideas
             | and find interesting stuff rather than doing it manually
             | with a guitar or on the piano. Then you have to walk away
             | for some time to clean your sonic pallette and try again.
             | 
             | As a lifelong musician I am absolutely loving all the
             | conversation around this stuff. Musicians steal everything,
             | all the time. The idea of some genius that sits down and
             | pops out a hit in 30 minutes that comes deep from within
             | their soul and has all the meaning attached to it is a
             | myth. We're trying to make things people can connect with.
             | Yes, some musicians are doing it for the sake of art, but
             | not most, and even with a lot of those, it's just an image
             | they project.
             | 
             | When you hear a song, it has probably gone through half a
             | dozen different versions and was worked on for months.
             | These new AI music generation tools will churn out 100
             | different ideas from you to borrow from and cut the
             | revisions down quite a bit I think.
        
             | glimshe wrote:
             | I would _love_ to use it if I can add enough variation to
             | the song and it can generate a good backing for the lyrics.
             | I 'm not a "publishing musician", but the music market is
             | much bigger than music performers - for instance, music for
             | advertisements, presentation, video backing tracks etc.
        
         | subpixel wrote:
         | Nobody ever said "this store could use some soul-sucking Muzak"
         | but that didn't stop progress!
        
       | supdudesupdude wrote:
       | AI: generate a punk rock anthem that speaks out against garbage
       | AI music generation software and praises the DIY punk ethos.
        
       | nerflad wrote:
       | Some of the jazz examples are apparent to me to have been trained
       | on texts like Roots & Herbs, Sonny Side Up, classic post-bop
       | records.
       | 
       | Apropos of nothing: one frustration with being a recording jazz
       | artist is that most of the canon is property of UMG.
       | 
       | [0]: https://www.udio.com/songs/dAJrkDePXbVLonnuxDkzz5
        
       | labrador wrote:
       | I welcome the new era of human/AI music collaboration. I think
       | people will get bored with pure AI music, but humans will take
       | these songs as starting points to make them original
        
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