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       Live NASA telescope feed for today's solar eclipse [video]
        
       Author : revicon
       Score  : 94 points
       Date   : 2024-04-08 17:08 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | ck2 wrote:
       | also https://eclipse-explorer.smce.nasa.gov/
        
       | hyperorca wrote:
       | Here is the NASA stream with commentary:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MJY_ptQW1o
        
       | doakes wrote:
       | Is it just coincidence that from our point of view the moon looks
       | like it's the exact same size as the sun? Or is there something
       | else going on?
        
         | atonse wrote:
         | Yes it's an absolutely crazy coincidence that the moon is the
         | correct proportion to its distance that results in perfect
         | total eclipses.
         | 
         | I remember learning this fact in an astronomy class and that
         | we're not aware of this happening anywhere else in our solar
         | system.
        
           | eichin wrote:
           | It's also "temporary" (moon's orbital radius increases
           | ~4cm/year)
        
             | doakes wrote:
             | Interesting! I wonder how long ago (if ever) eclipses
             | weren't even possible
        
               | pie420 wrote:
               | it's the opposite, a long time ago eclipses were "bigger"
               | and happened more often, as the moon drifts farther away,
               | it seems smaller to us and will no longer be big enough
               | in our sky to block the sun one day.
        
               | doakes wrote:
               | Thanks for clarifying
        
               | piptastic wrote:
               | Estimates suggest that total solar eclipses could cease
               | to occur in about 600 million years from now, give or
               | take, depending on the precise nature of lunar recession
               | and changes in Earth's rotation. This timeframe is long
               | enough that many other changes on Earth and in the solar
               | system will also occur, making the cessation of total
               | solar eclipses just one of many transformations.
        
               | Lerc wrote:
               | Then we will have to endure a few million years of people
               | arguing whether or not it should be called an eclipse or
               | a transit
        
           | mturmon wrote:
           | Part of that is that Earth's moon is quite large compared to
           | other moons like Phobos.
           | 
           | Here's a nice pic of Phobos and Deimos as seen from the mast-
           | camera of Curiosity, compared with Luna.
           | 
           | I remember reading an Asimov piece many years ago where he
           | was (typically) spinning out a kind of what-if about how the
           | large size of the moon, and the consequent majorly-obvious
           | eclipses, influenced the importance of ancient astronomy. Not
           | to mention other effects like tides and moonlight.
        
             | atonse wrote:
             | Nice, I'd love to read that.
        
             | basementcat wrote:
             | Is this the link?
             | https://www.universetoday.com/166028/perseverance-sees-
             | phobo...
        
             | phinnaeus wrote:
             | He uses the "planet with a giant satellite" description of
             | Earth as a plot point in Foundation (I think the final
             | novel).
        
         | make_clean wrote:
         | I recall reading that is a remarkable and fortunate
         | coincidence. Cannot find citation at the moment.
        
         | netcraft wrote:
         | check out this minutephysics video that explains and also talks
         | about other eclipses in the solar system
         | https://youtu.be/CikPFdZdY4k?si=NXpXHz06X3nZklt4
        
         | theodorejb wrote:
         | From my perspective it's one of many evidences that our planet
         | was intentionally created by God. I think He wanted us to
         | experience these rare and spectacular events and use them to
         | make astronomical discoveries.
        
           | 11101010001100 wrote:
           | why can't it be 'accidentally' by God?
        
             | aquova wrote:
             | "It's a feature, not a bug" ~ God, probably
        
           | m0rdoor54 wrote:
           | Although I do not consider myself to be a very religious
           | person I have to say, that is a very beautiful thought. It's
           | exceedingly rare these days that any topic brought up on
           | religion will actually give me pause and for a moment make me
           | wonder if there is something beyond scientific coincidence.
           | It just really goes to show how all the fanfare behind a
           | natural phenomenon as simple as an eclipse can be such a
           | worthwhile human experience to share.
        
           | atonse wrote:
           | I just want to say that I don't understand why this is being
           | downvoted. I'm an atheist and still see it as a wonderful
           | (and different) way to interpret this fact. Even I am in awe
           | of that fact, and it's only natural for crazy coincidences to
           | feel "intentional"
        
         | exitb wrote:
         | It's not the same size BTW. Depending on a particular
         | configuration, the moon can be between 10% bigger and 10%
         | smaller than sun.
        
         | lambdaba wrote:
         | Yes, this is the strangest coincidence of this entire setup to
         | me, it doesn't seem related to enabling the development of life
         | (besides, when life arose, the position of the moon was quite
         | different), but it was instrumental in verifying the theory of
         | relativity, just in time for humanity to discover it.
         | 
         | And here's the backstory about verifying relativity:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_May_29,_1919
        
         | nicklecompte wrote:
         | The whole idea of an annular solar eclipse is that the size is
         | not actually exact :)
         | 
         | I think part of the perception that a total eclipse "perfectly"
         | blocks the sun is that the corona has a fuzzy edge but the
         | surface does not, so when the moon is actually larger than the
         | sun in the sky you still see the same eerie coronal glow. In
         | particular there's little perceptible difference between
         | blocking 100% of the sun and blocking 105% of the sun, compared
         | to 100% versus 95%.
        
       | xandrius wrote:
       | That was absolutely amazing and it was "just" a video. I wish I
       | could get to see it again (saw it only once as a kid).
        
         | sva_ wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_August_12,_20...
        
           | pavel_lishin wrote:
           | I'm planning on taking my family to Reykjavik - we went
           | earlier this year, and it was great, and it'll be greater
           | still with a total eclipse!
        
           | rootusrootus wrote:
           | And a couple years later there is another one making a nice
           | path all the way across Australia. Might be time to visit
           | down under...
        
       | davely wrote:
       | If you want to what the Moon's shadow looks like as it crosses
       | Earth, from space, I highly encourage you to check out NOAA's
       | GOES Image Viewer! As of this moment, you can see a very dark
       | circle crossing over the central United States.
       | 
       | Even better, the website will animate the last 24 or so images
       | (captured every 10 minutes). It's awesome! [1]
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/goes/fulldisk_band.php?sat=...
        
         | BurningFrog wrote:
         | This shows the last 4 hours, which looks great right now.
         | 
         | Is there a way to "permalink" to these four hours in the
         | future?
        
           | fragmede wrote:
           | there's a download link. could upload that to, eg imgur
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | Sitting under the cloud cover just praying that some of the
         | gaps in the clouds would buddy up and make bigger gaps, I found
         | myself looking forward this view of being able to distinctly
         | see the shadow racing across the cloud tops prevent the
         | terrestrial views. While the moment of totality was reached was
         | obscured so that I barely made out the diamond ring effect, the
         | majority of totality was behind very thin clouds.
         | 
         | As luck would have it, within minutes after totality completed,
         | it was blue sky with pretty much no clouds. I swear the gawds
         | hate me or someone in my town!
        
       | xyst wrote:
       | Kind of cool to see it. But a bit overhyped.
       | 
       | Just a small distraction that keeps us "united" for a moment in
       | time.
        
         | cjaybo wrote:
         | Small?! Actually, despite how small it looks from here on
         | Earth, the sun is very large!
        
           | throwup238 wrote:
           | Very large?
           | 
           | I've covered that glorified fire ball with my thumb!
        
             | qup wrote:
             | Once covered up today, it revealed its true color: pink.
             | Hardly the raging fireball they make it out to be.
        
         | BrianHenryIE wrote:
         | Did you experience totality?
         | 
         | I saw the 2017 eclipse and found it was way better than I
         | expected.
        
           | xyst wrote:
           | yea - I was in the path of totality. Just another
           | "experience" I checked off the ole "bucket list".
           | 
           | People really got emotional about it though. People were
           | screaming, crying. Almost a mass hysteria event.
        
             | dotnet00 wrote:
             | And that's despite our scientific understanding of the
             | phenomenon, really explains why people who lacked that
             | understanding viewed eclipses as a bad omen.
        
         | sophacles wrote:
         | You're totally right. This was obviously just a nasa conspiracy
         | where they sent the moon on a different trajectory for a little
         | bit to keep us all from noticing the aliens!
        
         | sourcecodeplz wrote:
         | Nah, when I saw it as a kid it was amazing.
         | 
         | It got cold & pitch dark in the middle of a summer day.
         | 
         | Chickens went to sleep.
        
         | pavel_lishin wrote:
         | I just saw it. It felt like the exact correct level of hype.
         | Incredible, and easily worth driving six hours for.
         | 
         | The image of the corona around the sun is seared into my memory
         | now, and I want to see it again - I see why some people become
         | "eclipse-chasers", and travel the world to experience this
         | again.
        
         | staplers wrote:
         | I hope you are able to find joy in this universe. Don't let
         | others ruin your chance at a fulfilled life.
        
       | remoquete wrote:
       | TIL that eclipses have supersonic shadows that generate
       | gravitational waves. https://www.livescience.com/61279-moon-s-
       | supersonic-shadow-c...
        
         | EForEndeavour wrote:
         | Where in that article are gravitational waves mentioned?
        
         | pdonis wrote:
         | _> gravitational waves_
         | 
         | You mean gravity waves [1], which are not the same thing as
         | gravitational waves [2].
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave
         | 
         | [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave
        
         | saganus wrote:
         | The article mentions "waves in the ionosphere", not
         | gravitational waves.
        
       | lenerdenator wrote:
       | Y'know, seeing two of these now, I totally get why a peasant in
       | the olde times would freak out about this. It suddenly gets cold,
       | your animals are freaking out, and the thing that makes your food
       | grow is disappearing. Yeah, that's a problem.
        
         | pavel_lishin wrote:
         | Not only does it disappear, but it suddenly grows a lot of
         | weird glowing hair!
        
         | chasd00 wrote:
         | I live in Dallas TX and this is the first total eclipse i
         | remember. When totality got closer my shadow on the ground
         | become strange, i can't put my finger on it but something about
         | my shadow seemed different. The last minute or so increased the
         | darkness very fast, it got wayyy darker than i was expecting.
         | The streetlights came on, all my neighbor's porch lights came
         | on, and I could see a star/planet next to the sun.
        
           | pests wrote:
           | During partial coverings the ambient light is reduced which
           | makes shadows sharper and clearer.
        
             | NortySpock wrote:
             | Also the reduced light means your eyes have less light to
             | discriminate color with, resulting in ordinarily bright
             | colors being muted or gray-ish.
        
               | dylan604 wrote:
               | Yeah, the severe color change was an interesting
               | experience. I didn't bother trying to image it, as the
               | fakey fakeness of the enhancing software would have
               | "corrected" it.
        
             | function_seven wrote:
             | Not only that, but the light source that's creating the
             | shadow gets smaller (in terms of arc length), so the shadow
             | becomes more crisp.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | Hi neighbor! Even with the clouds covering at the critical
           | moment, the experience was just so one of those things you
           | must experience yourself as you'll never get a sense of it
           | from just someone else describing it to you. I had been
           | reading and watching content from people that had previously
           | experience eclipses, and even though what they describe
           | happening happened, it's just totally different in person. I
           | used to say this about seeing the Grand Canyon for the first
           | time after seen pictures/video of it, but the eclipse was at
           | least 10x that experience.
           | 
           | I'm thankful for the clouds clearing enough for the
           | experience, but I really felt that the totally clear skies
           | within minutes of totality ending was really just a slap in
           | the face from the universe!
        
             | acwan93 wrote:
             | > I used to say this about seeing the Grand Canyon for the
             | first time after seen pictures/video of it, but the eclipse
             | was at least 10x that experience.
             | 
             | I said the same thing about seeing Tunnel View in Yosemite
             | for the first time. It's the closest thing that I can say
             | that describes the experience and the eclipse eclipses
             | (heh) that.
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | https://electrek.co/2024/04/08/solar-eclipse-impact-us-grid-...
       | ("Watch the solar eclipse impact the US grid in real time")
        
       | barfard wrote:
       | shadow puppets - nobody cares
       | 
       | moon shadow - everyone loses their minds
        
         | staplers wrote:
         | If only shadow puppets could cast astronomical radioactive
         | plasma profiles onto a 100 mile wide audience..
        
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