[HN Gopher] Boeing 737-800 makes emergency landing after its eng...
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Boeing 737-800 makes emergency landing after its engine cowling
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Author : elorant
Score : 24 points
Date : 2024-04-07 20:48 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| rwmj wrote:
| BBC story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68758088
| paxys wrote:
| Boeing is justifiably facing the heat but I hope people's
| attention starts to turns to the airlines as well. They have been
| cost cutting on maintenance, personnel and basic training for far
| too long, and now the results are plain to see.
| spydum wrote:
| 100% this, I know several folks in the aviation maintenance biz
| for the big airlines, and they were shocked at how much they
| started cutting back, I want to say it started in 2017/2018. A
| lot of the older experienced folks had enough and just retired.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| Many US air carriers outsource maintenance to MROs in El
| Salvador, Mexico, or other low labor cost geographies.
|
| https://elsalvadorinenglish.com/2024/02/19/el-salvadors-
| aero...
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| https://aviationweek.com/mro/safety-ops-regulation/new-
| bill-...
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| https://www.fastcompany.com/90384118/disaster-waiting-to-
| hap...
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| https://arsa.org/samsa/
| wkat4242 wrote:
| That doesn't have to imply lower quality though.
|
| Apple phones are made in ultra low wage China but quality
| control is not an issue.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| It doesn't have to, but until proven otherwise, it is
| safe to assume corners are being cut and there is no
| accountability. If you meet developed world standards,
| prove it. If you're unwilling to prove it, we should not
| trust you.
|
| > Apple phones are made in ultra low wage China but
| quality control is not an issue.
|
| I don't fly in an iPhone at ~500MPH and 36k feet MSL. I
| want my government to have "a throat to choke" when
| people die due to corporate cost savings using this
| arbitrage. The 737 MAX killed 346 people, and the
| recourse was...not impressive.
|
| This is no different than the video where an exec is
| asked to drink the glass of water if fracking fluids are
| safe. Is it safe? Okay, prove that it is, and maybe
| regulators allow it to continue.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0HL4L6Pa-4
| wkat4242 wrote:
| Yeah cowlings are removed very regularly for maintenance and
| this plane is the previous model so it's bound to be a number
| of years old. That cowling will have been taken apart many
| times. Maintenance is more likely, or perhaps some foreign
| object impact.
|
| The MCAS issues and the poor QC on those plug bolts are
| unforgivable but it's too early to point the finger at Boeing
| for this.
| whalesalad wrote:
| Are these incidents happening more often or is society and the
| media just giving it more attention?
| johnea wrote:
| Maybe both?
| carabiner wrote:
| 10% former, 90% latter.
| johnea wrote:
| Another, non-twit-verse, link:
| https://bnonews.com/index.php/2024/04/southwest-boeing-737-l...
| janice1999 wrote:
| The pilots initially reported that crew thought it was a
| birdstrike. You can listen to the audio here:
| https://youtu.be/GBQkk4RcidA
| joezydeco wrote:
| Isn't this a CFM or SWA problem? Boeing doesn't make the engines
| or maintain them.
| wkat4242 wrote:
| Not the engines but they do make the cowlings afaik. Also they
| sell the plane as a whole so they're responsible for it even if
| they didn't make every part in house.
|
| But yeah it's really unlikely to be a Boeing issue and much
| more likely a maintenance or external issue.
| michelsedgh wrote:
| As these accidents happen, I just hope nothing major happens. It
| just goes to show how well engineered these are and a lot of
| airplanes can land safely with one of the engines. Still the
| build quality in everything has gone down and airplanes aren't an
| exception apparently.
| WheatMillington wrote:
| >It just goes to show how well engineered these are
|
| What an absolutely wild statement
| xyst wrote:
| maintenance issue with airline or yet another manufacturing
| defect from the worst airplane manufacturer?
|
| Honestly, hard to say at this point. Maybe open up short
| positions on both.
| howard941 wrote:
| Another site's coverage. Facts are thin right now.
| https://avherald.com/h?article=51721379&opt=0
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