[HN Gopher] US braces for cicadas by the trillion as two broods ...
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       US braces for cicadas by the trillion as two broods of periodic
       insects coincide
        
       Author : vinni2
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2024-04-07 10:36 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theguardian.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theguardian.com)
        
       | leipert wrote:
       | So time to invest in Sesame futures?
        
         | fnordian_slip wrote:
         | In case anyone needs the reference:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUxMY77i0q4
         | 
         | On-topic: I don't know why, but the videos of masses of cicadas
         | always seemed so overwhelming to me, I mean I just cannot
         | imagine walking through an effected area. Nature can truly
         | produce incredible phenomena.
        
           | piva00 wrote:
           | I'd include locusts as well, I cannot fathom the experience
           | of being in the path of a insects swarm extending for
           | hundreds to thousands of kilometres.
        
         | bdjsiqoocwk wrote:
         | In the real world, by the time this reaches the news it's
         | already priced in.
        
           | chrisgd wrote:
           | I upvoted you, but would say - Only if you assume markets are
           | perfectly efficient. It seems there is often some money to be
           | made.
        
       | mensetmanusman wrote:
       | Times nicely with the Armageddon of 2024.
        
       | jjtheblunt wrote:
       | Fun math in action here: these two broods emerge every 13 and 17
       | years, respectively. Those two numbers are coprime, so their
       | least common multiple, the next time a multiple of one will
       | coincide with a multiple of the other, is 13 * 17 = 221, which
       | subtracted from 2024 is 1803, when Thomas Jefferson was president
       | and the previous time the broods emerged in the same year.
        
         | soared wrote:
         | Thats from the article
         | 
         | The simultaneous appearance of the two cicada broods - known as
         | Brood XIX and Brood XII - is a rare event, not having occurred
         | since 1803, a year when Thomas Jefferson was US president
        
           | jjtheblunt wrote:
           | Right but the article didn't explain the calculation
        
             | lisper wrote:
             | Also to the point: the reason that the breeding cycles of
             | these species are prime numbers of years is that it makes
             | it less likely for a successful predator to evolve. To be a
             | successful specialized predator of these species, your
             | feeding cycle has to be a multiple of their breeding cycle
             | which in practical terms means, since the cycles are so
             | long, it has to be a exact match.
        
               | jjtheblunt wrote:
               | The 13s also get 17-1 breeding iterations without shared
               | food competition from the 17s, etc, during the breeding
               | days. The coprime periods effect strong attraction to the
               | involved prime periods.
        
               | lisper wrote:
               | True but that's less of a factor because the two species
               | don't have a lot of geographic overlap.
        
               | cyanydeez wrote:
               | Crypto mating will eventually be a human endeavour
        
         | TulliusCicero wrote:
         | I'm really curious how the broods 'know' when to pop out.
        
           | NewJazz wrote:
           | Tiny clocks.
        
           | anon84873628 wrote:
           | https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-do-
           | periodical...
           | 
           | Some how they keep track of the growing cycle of the trees
           | they feed on.
        
         | crucialfelix wrote:
         | When I schedule periodic tasks I always use prime numbers for
         | the loop time. That way it's less likely that tasks will be run
         | at the same time.
         | 
         | It's not really that important, but I do it as a form of
         | tribute to the cicadas.
        
       | seydor wrote:
       | Peter Gregory is pleased
        
         | esafak wrote:
         | Time to load up on sesame seed futures.
        
       | gosub100 wrote:
       | Take notice if you're a motorcycle rider. If you see a swarm,
       | pull over and drive at minimum speed because crushed bugs en
       | masse can absolutely de-bike you.
        
       | autoexec wrote:
       | > The two broods may only overlap slightly in a small area of
       | central Illinois, meaning there mostly won't be a larger-than-
       | normal boom in numbers in any one place
       | 
       | It's too bad that for all the headlines making this sound like a
       | biblical plague the reality will be that this summer won't be
       | much different from normal unless you actually care to get to so
       | up close and personal with these bugs that you'll notice
       | differences in species.
       | 
       | I'm hoping that they'll at least sound different enough that I
       | can appreciate the variety since I almost never see them crawling
       | or flying.
        
       | robotnikman wrote:
       | I remember last time the 17 year brood emerged I was living in
       | Illinois. I remember riding my bike to school and it was
       | impossible to not run over a bunch of cicadas. Also a nearby zoo
       | was paying people to bring in buckets of them which they would
       | use to feed animals there.
        
         | nharada wrote:
         | Yeah I remember this, it was pretty gross in a fascinating way.
         | You'd walk outside and every step was crunchy.
        
         | fbdab103 wrote:
         | What is the going rate for a bucket of cicadas?
         | 
         | The logistics of transportation sound tricky. Am I scooping up
         | dead cicadas? If live, transporting the bulk intact is going to
         | be fun. I am imagining broke teenagers balancing squirming
         | buckets on a bike handlebars.
        
       | cheese_van wrote:
       | Is the US really "bracing" for this event? Girding their loins to
       | brace in anticipation of this event? Bracing their bodies or
       | their minds? Will the Walmart people make runs on toilet paper?
       | If I want to properly brace, what do the experts say?
       | 
       | Brace, brace, brace. Brace for bugs.
        
       | hollywood_court wrote:
       | My family and I just arrived in Dallas to see the eclipse since
       | it's on the same day as my son's 5th birthday.
       | 
       | Where should we travel to see the cicadas?
        
         | schoen wrote:
         | You have a chance to see them in northwestern Lousiana or
         | western Arkansas:
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodical_cicadas#Map_of_broo...
         | 
         | You might want to double-check with a local. The ones closest
         | to you in Dallas would be Brood XIX, the light blue ones on the
         | map.
        
       | tedunangst wrote:
       | Cicada broods only come out infrequently, but people freaking out
       | about cicadas is closer to an annual tradition.
       | https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/05/11/cicadas-resta...
        
       | geetee wrote:
       | Isn't it Brood XIII, not XII?
        
       | cosmin800 wrote:
       | Are they edible? We should eat them, protein powder.
        
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