[HN Gopher] Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom
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Porn restrictions are leading to a VPN boom
Author : geox
Score : 116 points
Date : 2024-04-06 20:18 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| CapitalistCartr wrote:
| Anyone here recommend a VPN, for personal information safety and
| security rather than hiding porn?
| readyplayernull wrote:
| Tor Project.
| vorticalbox wrote:
| The tor network is really not built for streaming and you
| slow it down for everyone else when you do.
| jamesponddotco wrote:
| A VPN so you can hide your IP address and whatnot? Mullvad.
| thih9 wrote:
| How are these two use cases different? Are there vpn services
| that let you do one and not the other?
| netsharc wrote:
| Presumably GP's fear is that there are a lot of VPN
| providers, and they all claim to offer security, etc (or if
| you google for a "$VPN_provider_name review" there'll be
| dozen of shill sites saying how secure this particular VPN
| provider is, click here to get a discount using our referral
| code), so it all feels like shady business.
|
| For bypassing Sharia-state firewalls like Texas', any VPN
| provider should be good enough, but GP is asking for
| recommendations for providers who can be trusted to ensure
| privacy.
| kmfrk wrote:
| Mullvad is the best, but last I saw, they had to disable port
| forwarding due to bad actors ruining it for everyone else.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36113215
|
| They also work with Tailscale which makes per-device setup
| easier: https://mullvad.net/en/blog/tailscale-has-partnered-
| with-mul.... Tailscale was using a bit too much of my iPhone
| battery last I tried it out, but they're at least aware of it.
| DefineOutside wrote:
| After mullvad disabled port forwarding, I switched to AirVPN
| and it works fine. I trust it slightly less than Mullvad but
| I'm avoiding copyright trolls, not three letter agencies.
| dotnet00 wrote:
| I've been using AirVPN for a few years now, seems fairly
| trustworthy so far.
| LadyCailin wrote:
| Not to sound snarky, because this is a genuine question,
| but what does that even mean? Unless you've been brazenly
| selling child porn over the VPN and been getting away
| with it for years, I don't really know how you would
| establish a VPN is trustworthy vs you just haven't been
| targeted for your minor torrenting, or whatever.
| raggi wrote:
| (Tailscalar here) I identified a big chunk of the background
| drain on iPhone recently, and so drain just for being on in
| the background is much reduced now. There's still more to do,
| and we still end up with accounting for dns if you force dns
| via us, but things are much improved.
| heavyset_go wrote:
| What are you trying to protect yourself from?
| belorn wrote:
| If the need is for passively visiting a few handful of websites
| a week, I would recommend tor browsers. Takes a bit work to
| learn when to refresh routes, and how to handle websites that
| blocks public vpns, but easy to get started with. Pretty good
| when visiting websites that deal with medical information since
| tracing data from those are exceptional valuable to data
| brokers.
|
| If it is for more regular use or if the occasionally
| slowness/vpn blocking is too much, I would likely pick mullvad
| but I have not used their services. They do seem to spend some
| money on pro-privacy activism, so that is at least a point in
| their favor.
| pokstad wrote:
| iCloud private relay
| artsi0m wrote:
| I use VPN for bypassing blocks created either by government of
| the country I currently live in or established as a sanctions
| by another governments.
|
| I set up wireguard and unbound on VPS in Amsterdam and share
| with 10-15 people by posting wireguard config in private
| telegram channel.
|
| Ironically enough, but I block porn access using StevenBlack
| hosts converted into Unbound config by awk script, so porhhub
| dot com will return REFUSE dns response from unbound.
|
| I know, that is not impressive idea of how to utilize computing
| power of the VPS, but I also used it for running tor snowflake
| (disabled because of eating too much ram), running tor
| obfs4_proxy (would also eat much ram, but that can be adjusted,
| I don't remember clearly why I disabled it at one point) and I
| used it as a server for Postgres that I tried to use for uni's
| coursework on databases.
|
| Maybe I am too lazy to setup tools like zapret for bypassing
| deep packet inspection locally on my laptop or on router. But
| still there should be a ton of things that can be done on the
| same vps.
| wallstthrowaway wrote:
| PIA
| worik wrote:
| Tor?
| jupp0r wrote:
| They are usually equally suitable for both. Are you asking for
| a friend?
| PicassoCTs wrote:
| Hardening societal infra-structure against democratic governments
| collapsing back into autocracies. Good times.
| brink wrote:
| Porn is not a liberating force. It's like being mad at the
| government for making it hard for you to smoke cigarettes.
| exe34 wrote:
| Cigarette causes lung cancer and a bunch of other things.
| johannes1234321 wrote:
| Especially also for bystanders. Porn is consumed mostly
| privately.
| p00b wrote:
| Right, but also porn is often a commercial engine for tech
| innovation (even if indirectly, as in this case), which in
| turn can be leveraged as a liberating force.
| tavavex wrote:
| Porn also doesn't give you cancer. It's pretty transparent
| that the restrictions on it originate from hyper-religiosity
| and conservatism, rather than some genuine concern about
| public health.
| tennisflyi wrote:
| Liberating force is a bit too far but it's not the demon
| people seem to think. It's about all things in moderation.
| Porn = dopamine. Fast food = sugars/fructose and the ilk. SM
| = dopamine. Loot boxes = dopamine. Ad nauseam...
| thriftwy wrote:
| Can I get a socially approved amount of porn then?
|
| Would there be porn rations?
| kibwen wrote:
| Just like other addictive things (sugar, caffeine, video
| games, gambling), the "socially approved amount" is
| determined by a given individual's own limits on what
| they can consume while remaining a functioning member of
| society.
| tennisflyi wrote:
| Some where in between not talking about it with your mom
| and dad but chopping it up with a friend briefly about
| whatever models is so attractive and had a great scene on
| whatever website
| andy99 wrote:
| s/cigarettes/weed/ and watch how many people suddenly get
| angry.
|
| The problem is the government telling people what to do,
| period.
| Der_Einzige wrote:
| It is a canary in the coal mine litmus test for if you live
| in a free society or not.
|
| It is _absolutely_ a liberating force.
|
| It's uniquely liberating right now since over half of all
| free/open sourced AI models have an NSFW or unaligned focus
| (nearly the majority in the diffusion model world).
|
| Without the power of Waifus/booru websites ran by hentai
| aficionados, a solid amount of the generative AI revolution
| in the context of text to image models simply would not have
| happened.
| keybored wrote:
| People would be mad at the government for the exact same
| reason if they made selling cigarettes illegal.
| halfcat wrote:
| _"democratic governments collapsing back into autocracies"_
|
| I feel this statement in my bones.
|
| We have one side making all the laws, the other side doing away
| with laws, both of them acting solely for political points.
|
| No one in the middle is "radical" enough (by definition) to
| push back. Hard to see how that doesn't end in major conflict
| with a single winner, as you say.
| f6v wrote:
| But the kids!
| b8 wrote:
| Usenet, DDL, and torrenting are alternatives too. I wonder if
| Cloudflare's free VPN would bypass state based blocking.
| jimcsharp wrote:
| Surely it's overkill to pay for a whole month of constant vpn
| use. You could cook something up that provides access for a short
| session aaand we've circled back to dialers.
| phillc73 wrote:
| Short session? The month is good.
| winwang wrote:
| OP just needs a couple minutes of VPN
| zamadatix wrote:
| It's <$5 per month. The economics start to be more about the
| general cost of managing transactions, accounts, and customer
| service than about paying for how much VPN you actually use.
| 14 wrote:
| 4 or 8tb storage isn't even that much these days. You could
| torrent thousands of gb of porn and just store it until later.
| Heck if you lived somewhere that was getting really stupid and
| cracking down you could even sell cheap dvds with porn in a
| weird black market. The world gets dumber by the day
| ndriscoll wrote:
| > experts told PopSci platforms also oppose the laws because they
| don't want to be responsible for collecting and maintaining
| torrents of sensitive users' data that could pose a ripe target
| for cybercriminals.
|
| Good thing these laws specifically ban them from storing that
| information that they don't want to store.
|
| The implication here is so strange. Kids generally don't have a
| way to buy VPN services (I suppose they could mail cash to
| mullvad), so mission accomplished?
|
| > Some of the anti-porn laws, like the one enacted in Utah,
| already possess language explicitly prohibiting online platforms
| from letting minors "change or bypass restrictions on access."
|
| That's a social media law, not a porn law, and it's about
| parental controls that the parent set up on an account that's
| been marked as a child account (so only the parent account can
| modify controls on the child account: duh!).
|
| Absolutely garbage article. Didn't even link to the actual laws.
| And people complain that no one will pay for "journalism" like
| this.
| goalieca wrote:
| Well they can learn to use tor but most likely they'll get
| sucked into shady free VPN services and suffer worse.
| tennisflyi wrote:
| No way you're streaming anything via Tor
| InvertedRhodium wrote:
| I used to leave porn downloading overnight over 56k in the
| mid 90s. They'll just have to get a little more organised
| about it.
| bradly wrote:
| Also it is extremely common in middle and high school to use VPNs
| to get around school network restrictions.
| miki123211 wrote:
| That must be a US thing, over here in Europe, most people just
| use hotspots (or cellular data) instead.
|
| That was a thing even back in my day, when LTE availability was
| not a given and cellular packages were much less generous.
| cayde wrote:
| Tethering is idiot expensive in USA. Every provider will DPI
| and block it or throttle it. It's awful.
| ranger_danger wrote:
| very easy to bypass simply by increasing TTL by 1
| jowea wrote:
| And what's the very easy way to do that?
| vel0city wrote:
| My $15/mo plan in the US can pull hundreds of megabits at
| 20ms latency to most sites tethered. Tethering is baked
| into most phone plans and from my experiences not throttled
| any more than the regular phone data. Most plans have it,
| even the cheap prepaid options.
| phillc73 wrote:
| Maybe it's also a generational thing. In the 90s, I remember
| running my own squid proxy on a remote shared box somewhere,
| in order to circumvent "things."
|
| Granted, today, if it was just getting around general network
| restrictions via blacklist, then tethering is very
| convenient.
| chgs wrote:
| Ssh -D is quite handy
| lelandfe wrote:
| Back in my day, it was about obscure web proxies. I remember
| one that was called something like abelincolnfacts.com, which
| looked like a blog about Lincoln. But clicking an icon of his
| face in the top right revealed a web proxy interface to browse
| the web unfettered.
| jwells89 wrote:
| Though, circumvention of these things isn't always even that
| involved, depending on the competency of IT.
|
| At the religious private high school I attended, all it took to
| make a student a "hacker" was popping open Internet Options on
| the computer lab's XP boxes and disabling the proxy they were
| using. Had to sneakily do this sometimes not to view blocked
| stuff, but to just have a working internet connection to
| complete assignments with because the proxy service was
| provided by some terribly run local company that must've been
| three Staples special Celeron Compaq Presarios and a Linksys
| router in a shack somewhere, because they were constantly
| having outages.
| willcipriano wrote:
| "Start using cgi proxy"
| thriftwy wrote:
| > sexual material harmful to minors
|
| As a minor I have accessed sexual material all the time and I can
| assure you I was not harmed.
|
| I wonder why fake news regulations do not cover claims like
| these.
| nanocode wrote:
| What you wrote sounds a bit like "As a minor I have lived in
| asbestos building and I can assure you I was not harmed". How
| do you know?
|
| As far as I know, there are many scientific studies that
| disprove what you've said - and that porn has, in fact, a
| harmful effect on young minds. Of course there are many other
| harmful things that we nevertheless accept, like alcohol, cars
| or cigarettes. So maybe we can, as a society, decide that
| letting kid watch porn is OK and not worth the alternative
| (privacy intruding regulations). But arguing that it's not
| harmful at all is not, I believe, scientifically justified.
| thriftwy wrote:
| Living in asbestos building is definitely better than not
| living in any building. Porn was the only kind of sexual life
| available to me for a while.
|
| It is my internal state, I find your ideas that you may be a
| better judge of it than myself revolting. WTH are you?
| moonchild wrote:
| Respectfully:
|
| 1. I think censorship laws are abhorrent
|
| 2. It can be very difficult to tell what effect media has on
| you, and just because you do not (say) find yourself
| traumatised or find that your perceptions have been overtly
| altered does not mean you have not been negatively affected.
| And you will certainly never be unaffected by anything you
| experience or do. This is something that I've become _more_
| sensitive to and aware of as I 've gotten older. And further,
| it is _only_ through this sensitivity and awareness, and
| acceptance of the fact that I cannot just decide by fiat how
| things will affect me, that I have gained some measure of
| control.
| thriftwy wrote:
| Why is it my problem that you, a different human being, have
| control issues? Perhaps your hardware is faulty and should be
| selected away from the gene pool. Why is that a reason to
| make _my_ life worse?
|
| Anyways it's better to get you hooked up on porn than on
| drive-by shootings or almost any other anti-social behavior.
|
| It is not provable that I was negatively affected by
| perceptions of I say I wasn't.
| samus wrote:
| Nor is it provable that you weren't. Which is the point of
| the previous comment. Anyways, enjoy the nosebleed
| material...
| rrr_oh_man wrote:
| Anecdote: I stayed in the Airbnb of an (obviously gay) couple in
| the South-Eastern very conservative Turkish city of Mersin many
| years ago.
|
| The absolute _joy_ they had when I showed them how to set up
| 1.1.1.1 on their Android TV, phones, and laptops... so they could
| watch unrestricted gay porn in their heavily censored and state-
| controlled slice of the World Wide Web...
|
| I still get a virtual greeting card from them once in a while.
| not_a_dane wrote:
| UK is also censoring porn sites...
| 77pt77 wrote:
| At this point Turkey is probably more free than the UK.
| levidos wrote:
| Can you elaborate please? The UK isn't blocking gay porn
| sites for example.
| sph wrote:
| Only with crappy ISPs like Virgin, which has court-mandated
| DNS bans for many websites (like ThePirateBay)
|
| I use Zen which has no such restriction. Though for safety
| all my illegal activity is done via VPN because this is still
| a Five Eyes country.
| gambiting wrote:
| Friendly reminder that all ISPs in the UK are required to
| store your entire browsing history for a full year, and 17
| government agencies, including the Department of Agriculture,
| can access it without a warrant. Snoopers Act has been passed
| and lives on for years now, and I'm yet to meet a person who
| is even slightly bothered by it.
| chgs wrote:
| Except that's not right
|
| https://decoded.legal/blog/2021/06/must-all-uk-internet-
| acce...
| chpatrick wrote:
| That way the ISP still sees what you're doing though.
| acchow wrote:
| Only the DNS lookups. Not the content of what you're viewing
| over https. Everything after domain name is encrypted
| freedomben wrote:
| The DNS lookup are often enough. You can try to claim you
| were shopping for new shoes on pornhub.com, but not many
| people will buy it
| nurettin wrote:
| There is no law against going to pornhub.com, the law is
| only concerned with dns blocking.
| heavyset_go wrote:
| Set them up with some form of DNS over TLS.
| samatman wrote:
| Reminds me of a... peculiarity in Turkey. Men are required to
| serve a mandatory term in the military, but are exempt if
| they're homosexual. However, to prevent this being used as a
| loophole to evade service, the men in question must prove that
| they're gay.
|
| This has resulted in the Turkish military having a very large
| collection of amateur gay porn.
| leeoniya wrote:
| this is basically that family guy episode where Quagmire
| tries to get out of his marriage to a hooker.
| superb_dev wrote:
| So they're forced to choose between military service or
| having sex on camera? I'm not sure I'd call that "amateur
| porn" if it's not consensual
| Dylan16807 wrote:
| Wanting to get out of a pre-existing obligation that every
| man has, and most don't get out of, should not qualify as
| lack of consent.
| noman-land wrote:
| The obligation itself already lacks consent so anything
| you feel forced to do to get out of it is similarly non-
| consentual.
| Dylan16807 wrote:
| If by "similarly" you mean "equally bad at most", then I
| can agree with that.
|
| But I think most people would rate non-consensual sex as
| _significantly_ worse than a non-consensual day job.
|
| So if you say the sex on camera is not consensual, you're
| implying a very different kind of consent violation than
| is actually happening.
| archon1410 wrote:
| Apparently it doesn't happen anymore.
|
| > The system has been undergoing change for the past few
| years: Lambda Istanbul's lawyer Firat Soyle stated in 2012
| that the rectal examinations, and the photographic evidence
| of anal intercourse have been dismissed as requirements when
| they gained worldwide and national media attention.
|
| -- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_certificate
|
| But from when it did happen, it sounds... bad.
|
| > "With the picture it was a bit difficult. The face had to
| be recognizable as well as the penis and the ass. To put all
| this into a square was a bit complicated. Twice I got cramps
| because of the position. [...] I also got humiliated at the
| selection, before they announce it [the final diagnosis].
| There are about 12 military people, big ones, with uniforms
| and everything. [...] They all looked one by one at the
| pictures and I had to bring ten pictures, ten different
| positions there. This is the difficulty of course, but I
| managed to do it. And at every single picture they looked and
| compared it with me. I was standing in the middle. And then
| they asked me questions. For example which positions I like
| and if I use this position they see regularly. Questions like
| that." -- Irlenkauser, Julian. "Gender Identities and the
| Turkish Military." Thesis. European University Viadrina /
| Istanbul Bilgi University, 2012.
| noman-land wrote:
| This story is oddly wholesome.
| kornhole wrote:
| Configuring 1.1.1.1 is a great option for people outside the US
| whose countries are unable to pressure Cloudflare for
| information. A better option for those of us in the US is to
| run our own DNS resolvers. My DNS resolver runs on a little
| PFSense box that also has DNS blocking and a ton of other
| features.
| mvkel wrote:
| How did the industry get away with calling proxies "VPNs" anyway?
| Brainspackle wrote:
| Proxies and VPNs are different, that's why?
| donatj wrote:
| Yes, they are, and what gets sold to consumers as VPNs these
| days are just proxies.
| nanocode wrote:
| I think we can split hairs and nitpick this a lot but...
| Nowadays most often setup is that you join a VPN (a very
| isolated one), and you use it for the same purpose as you
| would proxy. But from your machine's point of view, you're
| using a separate network for your default gateway. Using
| proxy is usually more involved, and you can configure it in
| your application. In fact, you can do both and sometimes it
| makes sense (like using tor socks proxy over vpn).
| Dylan16807 wrote:
| When you add the word "just", you make that statement
| false.
| paxys wrote:
| No, they are VPNs. They also include proxies in the same
| bundle, and sometimes it is easier to just use proxies
| rather than install an entire VPN client on your machines,
| but VPN (powered by Wireguard or OpenVPN) is what they are
| selling.
| ranger_danger wrote:
| I think the distinction should be that if a private IP
| address is allocated for you, and hence this "tunnel" is
| forwarding layer3 packets or lower, then it's called a VPN.
| A proxy would not forward IP packets directly, but
| something at layer4 or higher.
| Nifty3929 wrote:
| The major problem here is that our government is turning us all
| into criminals. Using a VPN doesn't make it legal for you to
| consume anonymously, even if doing so makes it harder to enforce,
| at least for now. Soon VPN use will be illegal in some states.
| Once again, hard to enforce. But these are things which, if for
| some reason the gov't decides to target you (in which case they
| can/will spend the effort to discover), can be used against you.
|
| This is not a technology problem, it's a legislative one. It's
| another example of some of us are using the power of the
| government to constrain other people's behavior.
| worik wrote:
| Yes
|
| That is the problem with vice laws
|
| Tough times
| zarathustreal wrote:
| Isn't "constrain(ing) other people's behavior" kinda the point
| of law? If you're trying to make a point you're gonna have to
| be more specific. Preventing rape, theft, and murder are all
| instances of "behavioral constraint", without any qualifiers
| you're artificially inflating the magnitude of the situation
| dijit wrote:
| The issue is that for a large portion of the population, porn
| consumption is not considered immoral or even if it _is
| immoral_ ; not an offence worthy of calling someone a
| criminal over.
|
| We all know that laws are not a good indicator of morality,
| but society is better when we try to align laws over time
| with our moral code.
| ndriscoll wrote:
| The laws aren't against porn consumption or even anonymous
| porn consumption. They're about distributing porn to
| children, which most people are in alignment that we don't
| want to allow.
|
| These age verification laws all mandate that no identifying
| information be kept. The Texas law has a $10,000 penalty
| _per instance_ for record retention. It 's still perhaps
| not the best way to do it, but people are being very
| disingenuous in their characterization of these laws. It's
| not that much different from requiring people to show ID at
| the door of an adult store.
| paxys wrote:
| "Our government" isn't doing it, some very specific ones are.
| And the people they represent are 100% behind all such laws.
| This is the democratic process working exactly as intended.
| braaileb wrote:
| If they did this for all social media I might pick up guitar
| kibwen wrote:
| Unfortunately, the suggestive manual gesticulations required to
| finger your fretboard have caused guitar-playing to be banned
| in the state of Texas.
| paulpauper wrote:
| VPNs: $12/month if you sign up for 200+ months for blocked IPs
| and slow servers and service. awesome.
| aegypti wrote:
| Reality: EUR5/month if you sign up for 1 month, blocked IPs,
| ~10% reduction in Mbps
| 77pt77 wrote:
| For $12 a year you can get a VPS and just put OpenVPN there.
| paxys wrote:
| And who is going to pay for the bandwidth?
| 77pt77 wrote:
| Those VPS come with like 1 TB a month of bandwidth.
|
| It's storage and CPU that are kind of a premium.
|
| Bandwidth is cheap.
| karaterobot wrote:
| Which one are you using? It's overpriced and it sounds like a
| bad experience. Fortunately most VPNs you'll find are cheaper
| and better than what you're describing!
| donatj wrote:
| Tailscale exit node on a cheap vps and you're golden. Well as
| long as the stuff you're doing is "legal". It's still traceable
| back to you.
| fragmede wrote:
| How well do subpoenas work across international borders,
| especially when the charge isn't illegal in the recieving
| jurisdiction?
|
| (asking for a friend, obvs)
| zamalek wrote:
| Things like torrenting will get you quickly shut down by the
| provider. My friend found this out while considering setting
| up their own seedbox.
| simfree wrote:
| Sounds like your friend was VPNing to the wrong
| jurisdiction.
|
| PulsedMedia (Finland), IHostArt (Romania) and many other
| seedbox server providers exist and will not shut you down.
| ranger_danger wrote:
| very well as long as the country has an extradition treaty
| with your home country (if US, almost all you'd ever travel
| to does)
| throwaway918274 wrote:
| 1984.hosting
|
| payable with Monero
| k8svet wrote:
| Do you know any similar hosts that attempt to provide
| shielded VMs?
| zeroCalories wrote:
| Imagine Texas bans private VPNs next. Haha.
| btbuildem wrote:
| That's not even haha, that's like 6/10 likely.
| skissane wrote:
| I doubt Texas will. How would they enforce it? And good
| chance the federal courts will rule it is pre-empted by
| federal law (the FCC).
|
| For historical (and arguably even political) reasons, federal
| courts give the states a bit more leeway when to adult
| content. But regulating general purpose content-neutral VPNs
| would really be stepping directly into the FCC's domain, in a
| way which would directly impact interstate commerce, and I
| doubt the courts would let them do that
| paxys wrote:
| Passing a law and actually enforcing a ban are very different
| things. In the case of porn the big corporate sites have no
| choice but to comply. VPN providers don't really care. Unless
| the state of Texas can manage to find and block every IP
| address of every VPN server worldwide, people are going to get
| through.
| gigapotential wrote:
| https://UpVPN.app for couple of minutes of VPN
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| Gambling should be banned. Not porn.
| 77pt77 wrote:
| Why?
|
| No one forces anyone to gamble.
| dijit wrote:
| Eh, Gambling disproportionately impacts poor people.
|
| It's as close to Sugar, Nicotine or Alcohol in terms of
| addiction as you can get without being chemical.
|
| Same reason we ban certain ads targeting kids.
| karaterobot wrote:
| I think gambling is a much more destructive force in the world
| than porn, but I don't think either should be banned. Don't
| look at it like we have to ban a certain number of things.
| sydbarrett74 wrote:
| Anyone have experience with Aura's VPN feature?
| technion wrote:
| If vpns become positioned primarily about accessing porn, well I
| look forward to the day people acknowledge tls exists and we stop
| seeing misleading advertisements with the various claims everyone
| on a network can see the contents of your online banking.
| andrewflnr wrote:
| I've already seen a shift in the ads from "hide your banking
| details from hackers" to more "hide your country from Netflix".
| I can't prove causation, but it did seem to date from when Tom
| Scott did his "Honest VPN ad" video.
| seanvelasco wrote:
| one thing i noticed from vpn use recently: using a free vpn
| actually allows me to watch content otherwise inaccessible to due
| to geo restrictions. this was using a free vpn.
|
| for a second, i was really happy because i thought the office was
| finally available in my region.
| uconnectlol wrote:
| this new porn legislation is the most irrational cancerous fear
| mongering sheep bullshit i've head of in my life. fuck your
| stupid children, stop wasting my tax money, and stop making laws
| based on a completely invalid platform (the web) which wont exist
| in 10 years. if youre a conservative in tech you should jump off
| a bridge just as much as a liberal. this is coming from someone
| who _fucking hates_ garbage websites like pornhub too.
|
| > hurr durr my child has internet access its too easy for him to
| find porn
|
| you had the option to take away his internet bullshit _long_
| before making new legislation and setting bad precedents. please
| fucking kill yourself. and you have no idea what youre talking
| about too, legally constraining one or two websites changes
| nothing in a practical perspective, your child is still finding
| porn. you are an irresponsible piece of shit who values fucking
| over humanity over a slight inconvenience of your kid not being
| in the cool club (if he didnt have a phone).
|
| you have the same energy as some dweeb boomer who puts cameras on
| his front door and lets amazon have a global CCTV of every city
| in the world (what could ever go wrong), just to prevent a break
| in that would have never happened in the first place. you
| security theater buying loser
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