[HN Gopher] The Rise of the Remote Husband
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       The Rise of the Remote Husband
        
       Author : edward
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2024-04-04 20:38 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | bell-cot wrote:
       | Decades ago, I knew two couples doing the "she heads off to work,
       | he stays at home" thing.
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       | Both husbands were doing essentially non-remote work at home
       | (academia and a home-office business). And had multiple children
       | to look after, at home, as part of the deal.
        
       | dudul wrote:
       | Can't read behind pay wall. Does the article actually provide
       | data or is it just based on the 5 "examples" provided in the
       | beginning?
        
         | theonething wrote:
         | Don't have time to read it myself right now, but here it is:
         | https://archive.is/dh4fn
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | Just some data about the percentage of each gender who can work
         | remotely--which isn't all that different in the scheme of
         | things. (Slightly higher for men as you might expect.)
        
         | verteu wrote:
         | Unpaywalled: https://archive.is/dh4fn
         | 
         | Not much data. Just:
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         | > Different occupations have also had to take different
         | approaches to remote working...About half of people working in
         | computer or mathematical jobs work remotely full-time. The
         | upshot is that, in aggregate, it is easier for men to work from
         | wherever they please. A survey carried out by McKinsey, a
         | consultancy, found that 38% of working men had the option to
         | work remotely full-time, compared with 30% of women. Roughly
         | half of women report being unable to work remotely at all,
         | compared with 39% of men.
        
         | ulrashida wrote:
         | There doesn't appear to be much of a point to the article.
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | https://archive.today/dh4fn
        
       | paxys wrote:
       | I never thought about it before reading this but most couples I
       | know fall into this category. Probably because they largely fit
       | the "tech guy marries non-tech gal" stereotype.
        
         | nonameiguess wrote:
         | I don't know that it means anything, but I'm a tech guy married
         | to a tech gal and we still fit this category. In our case, it's
         | because her work project is classified. The company itself
         | allows full-remote work if your project is unclassified, but
         | you can't get a SCIF in your house.
         | 
         | It's amusing to me that this article claims it is usually the
         | case that the husband is still not cooking and cleaning even
         | though he's home. I'm cooking and cleaning all the damn time.
         | With all the time spent at home, cooking has become my favorite
         | hobby. I am quite often sneaking in prep for some elaborate,
         | showy dinner while waiting for a build to finish or on a call
         | that doesn't require me to present or speak.
        
           | vinni2 wrote:
           | Sounds like you are an outlier.
        
           | autoexecbat wrote:
           | Why would someone's work location impact what house chores
           | they do. It's still work-time not home-chores time.
        
             | theodric wrote:
             | Because, freed from the time lost to a commute, they may
             | have an extra 1-3 hours per day at home which is not owed
             | to their employer.
        
       | picklerish wrote:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20240404213835/https://www.econo...
        
       | lchengify wrote:
       | I have a lot of tech / healthcare couples in my friend group and
       | this is definitely the arrangement. Especially true since
       | healthcare careers have very different timelines than tech.
       | 
       | In once instance, one partner is a clinician and absolutely has
       | to be on site 5 days a week, not counting on-call. The other
       | works 100% remote but the company is global, so depending on the
       | week they may be on Europe time or Australia time.
       | 
       | This is definitely a work arrangement I couldn't have imagined
       | being common 10 years ago. This shift will likely be one of the
       | defining economic changes between the 10's and the 20's.
        
       | mschuster91 wrote:
       | Not all that surprising - "care work" of all kinds, at least if
       | going by distribution of unpaid care work [1], kindergarten [2]
       | and later education [3] or nursing [4], is _utterly dominated_ by
       | women. Almost all care work by definition has to be done at the
       | workplace, whereas (as we discovered in Covid) a lot of
       | traditional  "men jobs" (i.e. almost everything outside of
       | mining, industry and security) can be done from home.
       | 
       | It's going to be an interesting next few years, as this shift can
       | and does have serious implications not just on workplace and work
       | condition equality question, but also if it will fuel further
       | discontent among those men who have to go commute to a workplace
       | vs those men who can enjoy the ability to work from home.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.weforum.org/publications/global-gender-gap-
       | repor...
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       | [2]
       | https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2024/02/12/over-96-...
       | 
       | [3]
       | https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=EAG_PERS_SHARE...
       | (you have to change the filter to "Pre-primary to tertiary
       | education", then scroll down to the totalization rows at the
       | bottom)
       | 
       | [4] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099804/distribution-
       | of-...
        
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