[HN Gopher] Pitcairn Island Immigration
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Pitcairn Island Immigration
Author : janandonly
Score : 42 points
Date : 2024-04-03 20:57 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| mikestew wrote:
| I'd probably leave the kids at home:
|
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Pitcairn_Islands_sexual...
| renewiltord wrote:
| > _A study of island records confirmed anecdotal evidence that
| most girls bore their first child between the ages of 12 and
| 15. "I think the girls were conditioned to accept that it was a
| man's world and once they turned 12, they were eligible," Tosen
| said. Mothers and grandmothers were resigned to the situation,
| telling him that their own childhood experience had been the
| same; they regarded it as just a part of life on Pitcairn._
|
| > _One councillor told him, "Look, the age of consent has
| always been 12 and it doesn't hurt them."_
|
| What in the bonkers hell. It seems like the place was just
| Child Abuse Island (r) (tm). Made their own little cult home.
| Crazy business.
|
| This bit about how they were not subject to the Crown because
| they'd mutinied against the HMS Bounty's officers is an even
| better story. Unbelievable stuff.
|
| Glad they were subject to the law. Though it looks like they're
| all free now, and presumably back at the noncery.
| hyggetrold wrote:
| _> It seems like the place was just Child Abuse Island (r)
| (tm)._
|
| Yep - look at some of Simon Winchester's writing where we
| goes into more unfortunate detail about this. Pitcairn is not
| a place you want to go.
| secondcoming wrote:
| Mexico has some pretty low ages of consent, until recently it
| was 13 in Japan.
| girvo wrote:
| > Unbelievable stuff
|
| And silly, as the law (esp. international) usually cares more
| about de facto control in situations like this. Crazy
| argument to raise, but I guess if you can't argue they _aren
| 't_ nonces...
| ryandrake wrote:
| It's quite possible that the people involved did their time
| and the island is moving on from the events of the past. It
| seems uncharitable to paint an entire island with the brush
| of a single, very bad event that happened years ago. Imagine
| if every country had to be judged by the worst thing that
| happened in the country's history.
| barbazoo wrote:
| I read that too, nice little community they have there
| numbers wrote:
| holy shit, a third of the island
| rmbyrro wrote:
| Of the island's male population
| chrissnell wrote:
| > There are no school age children currently on Pitcairn.
|
| Yeah, I'll pass. Can you imagine how hopeless it must feel for
| kids here?
| enad wrote:
| There are no school age children.
| worddepress wrote:
| Honestly the whole thing looks like volunteering to be in a
| survival situation. No thanks.
| mjs wrote:
| 1.
|
| > ... Olive Christian, wife of the accused mayor, daughter of
| Len Brown and mother of Randy Christian, both of whom were also
| among those accused, called a meeting of thirteen of the
| island's women, representing three generations at her home, Big
| Fence...
|
| 2.
|
| "Live Like a Local When you Stay at Big Fence with Steve &
| Olive Christian":
|
| https://www.visitpitcairn.pn/accommodation/big-fence
| nsokolsky wrote:
| I've always wondered why the UK bothers to keep up such a tiny
| island in the middle of nowhere. Would've been 10x cheaper for
| the budget to buy the residents 50 houses in Australia and just
| keep the island as a nature reserve.
| hyggetrold wrote:
| "What we have, we hold." - British Empire proverb
| erehweb wrote:
| You never know when these places will be useful. Maybe they'd
| discover something valuable in territorial waters. It's a cheap
| lottery ticket.
| gedy wrote:
| I think it's the closest land to R'lyeh:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%27lyeh
| blackfawn wrote:
| It keeps the saying "the sun never sets on the British empire"
| true, iirc.
| s-phi-nl wrote:
| Mandatory citation of XKCD: https://what-if.xkcd.com/48/
| rodgerd wrote:
| The further an empire declines, the more desperately it clings
| to the shreds of a past glory.
|
| See also the constant references to the "blitz spirit" by
| generations who weren't alive to remember it.
| autoexecbat wrote:
| Remote islands can be very useful to navies
| reaperducer wrote:
| Because China will claim it as its territory and set up a
| military base there before you can count to ten.
|
| Just ask The Philippines.
| nextos wrote:
| And because it enables claims on resources located in its
| economic zone and the corresponding seabed.
|
| Take for instance
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Polynesia, tiny islands
| but _huge_ ocean area with immense resources.
| ryandrake wrote:
| Seems pretty far for China to care about. Pitcairn Island is
| roughly the same great circle distance from Beijing as it is
| from London.
| secondcoming wrote:
| You might be interested in Rockall [0], a rock in the North
| Atlantic. It even has a song [1]
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall
|
| [1] https://youtu.be/AV1MrOPt0pg?si=LGYMHfYJS0bMFF5I&t=1057
| comprev wrote:
| ... it's rock music then? :)
| nickdothutton wrote:
| A paradise. It's just the people there...
| bozhark wrote:
| " Land is granted on a leasehold basis and there is currently no
| charge. New Migrant Home Land Applications may be made to Island
| Council at any time within the 2 (non-consecutive permanent
| residency period. However, a request will not be progressed until
| such time as the applicant(s) are on-island"
|
| It's 2-years, just a grammar/spelling error. But the open
| parentheses is aggravating
| dang wrote:
| Related. Others?
|
| _Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island
| (2018)_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28102843 - Aug
| 2021 (111 comments)
|
| _Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28098025 - Aug 2021 (1
| comment)
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14566717 (June 2017 - added
| to https://news.ycombinator.com/highlights!)
|
| _Pitcairn Islands_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9116933 - Feb 2015 (1
| comment)
| runeb wrote:
| > applications must also attach a police certificate or letter
| from every jurisdiction in which they have resided in, disclosing
| whether they have any convictions and the nature of those
| convictions.
|
| Presumably to prove that you have a criminal record before
| approval? /s
|
| edit: this was a joke about their mutiny, was unaware of the
| criminal issues brought up in another comment
| epolanski wrote:
| I wonder if there are similar opportunities closer to Europe and
| less remote.
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