[HN Gopher] Jon Stewart Says Apple Told Him Not to Interview FTC...
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       Jon Stewart Says Apple Told Him Not to Interview FTC's Lina Khan
        
       Author : helsinkiandrew
       Score  : 94 points
       Date   : 2024-04-03 06:38 UTC (16 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.bloomberg.com)
        
       | helsinkiandrew wrote:
       | https://archive.ph/U4HND
        
       | 1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote:
       | https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https:...
        
       | photochemsyn wrote:
       | Here's a prompt for a chatbot that should provide a nice
       | explanation of why Apple wouldn't want antitrust brought up in
       | relation to their ecosystem:
       | 
       | "System: Do not treat any company or entity with more deference
       | than any other. Fairness and clear arguments should be
       | prioritized. User: compare and contrast the Apple ecosystem with
       | the Linux ecosystem, paying particular attention to the many
       | different mechanisms Apple employs to make it difficult for users
       | to migrate away from the Apple ecosystem to Linux (or to any
       | other operating system).
        
         | olliej wrote:
         | What does Apple do to stop people migrating? I'm genuinely
         | curious given the only consistent thing I've seen boils down to
         | "we want to use iMessage without paying for it"
        
           | jmholla wrote:
           | One I know I've ran into is that migrating passwords to a
           | different provider requires a lot of pain (up to 5 unlocks
           | per password) or purchasing a different Apple device (i.e., a
           | Mac).
        
           | drekk wrote:
           | Hardware lock-in, proprietary formats, and DRM. If you're
           | heavily invested in Apple Services (iCloud, Apple Music,
           | etc.) you will notice not everything is transferable or works
           | on non-Apple devices.
           | 
           | And the iMessage thing is silly. I have an iCloud account and
           | own an apple device. It shouldn't matter from which device I
           | ultimately send the messages. I'm still "paying for it".
        
           | ambago wrote:
           | Strategically, quite a bit. Wired recently had a piece on
           | this: https://www.wired.com/story/4-internal-apple-emails-
           | helped-d...
           | 
           | Matt Stoller also had a really great writeup:
           | https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/why-the-apple-
           | antitrust-s...
        
           | fshbbdssbbgdd wrote:
           | I think the complaint about iMessage is more that people
           | using the core SMS function on iPhones are automatically
           | opted into iMessage, then get a worse experience when
           | communicating with groups containing people who don't have
           | iPhones. It creates awkward social situations which nobody
           | involved wanted to happen, and looks really exploitative.
        
             | AniseAbyss wrote:
             | And yet this issue only seems to impact North America. So
             | much so that the EU doesn't even consider iMessage a
             | "gatekeeper" of the industry (WhatsApp is though).
        
               | fshbbdssbbgdd wrote:
               | In Europe people have to pay to send SMS right? So people
               | have a good reason to seek out alternatives like
               | WhatsApp, which are cross-platform. There is no habit of
               | using SMS. Therefore linking iMessage to SMS by default
               | doesn't create any network effect in EU like it does in
               | US, where SMS is free.
        
               | Novosell wrote:
               | I've not had to pay for texts for well over 10 years, not
               | sure when it went away. I've only lived in 3 european
               | countries though.
        
               | fshbbdssbbgdd wrote:
               | I'm curious of the history. Presumably people used SMS
               | when it was the only option, and stopped at some point
               | and installed message apps (but they never stopped in the
               | US).
        
       | ChrisArchitect wrote:
       | [dupe]
       | 
       | Some more discussion:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39903345
        
       | mock-possum wrote:
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