[HN Gopher] Konrad Zuse (1994)
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       Konrad Zuse (1994)
        
       Author : tmalsburg2
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2024-04-02 17:44 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.xn--plankalkl-x9a.de)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.xn--plankalkl-x9a.de)
        
       | doener wrote:
       | My brain needed some time to process the "Last updated 94/09/30"
       | at the end. Oh, he means 1994!
        
         | nottorp wrote:
         | Y/M/D, the only sane way to spell dates.
         | 
         | Too bad it's only a 2 digit year.
        
           | Cu3PO42 wrote:
           | I'd argue ISO 8601 (YYYY-MM-DD) is superior still because it
           | is much more difficult to confuse for etiher DD/MM/YYYY or
           | MM/DD/YYYY.
        
             | nottorp wrote:
             | I can stomach any separator as long as the order is right
             | ;)
        
       | moritzruth wrote:
       | More info on Plankalkul: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankalkul
        
       | drannex wrote:
       | Any reason for the strange submitted url if it redirects to
       | http://www.xn--plankalkl-x9a.de/?
       | 
       | Edit: Looks like HN auto changes it to that. http:// www.
       | plankalkul .de/ Is it because of the u?
        
         | sgt wrote:
         | If you have a modern OS or browser it should show
         | "http://www.xn--plankalkl-x9a.de" in the URL field.
        
           | drannex wrote:
           | Windows 11, Firefox. Doing the same on my NixOS install with
           | Firefox (showing the proper url). Seems like a regression if
           | "modern" systems are supposed to be showing that eyesore of a
           | URL, which I get could be a phishing safety thing, but
           | annoying to say the least.
        
           | nottorp wrote:
           | I get http://www.xn--plankalkl-x9a.de/ in my Firefox (Mac OS)
           | address bar. I think it's modern? I mean I let it auto
           | update.
           | 
           | Tbh I like the xn-- spelling more, it makes it more
           | mysterious.
        
             | sgt wrote:
             | I guess it's a FF thing...
        
               | nottorp wrote:
               | Waaaait. I'm pretty sure I pasted the correct spelling
               | and HN changed it. Let's try again:
               | 
               | http://www.xn--plankalkl-x9a.de/
               | 
               | I see plankalkul with the umlaut as I'm writing. Let's
               | see what's displayed when I post the comment...
        
               | masfuerte wrote:
               | Although HN has translated the umlauted url to punycode
               | for display, it uses the original umlauted url in the
               | anchor's href attribute. Firefox is happy with the href
               | in either format.
        
         | pgeorgi wrote:
         | yes, u requires punycode encoding. The xn-- prefix indicates
         | that.
         | 
         | And because there are way too many ways to confuse people with
         | similar looking characters, the domains can be typed in and
         | converted appropriately, but some webbrowsers ensure that you
         | notice if something is off with www.bankofamerica. com (www.xn
         | --bnkofamerica-x9j. com)
        
           | drannex wrote:
           | There _has_ to be a better way, this is in no way beneficial
           | to normal people. This just makes it even worse from a UX
           | standpoint.
        
             | pgeorgi wrote:
             | There are a bunch of ideas, like giving different unicode
             | codepoints groups different background colors. That way, a
             | and a show up differently colored.
             | 
             | It's more a UX problem than a technical one, so simple "why
             | not X?" technical proposals tend to be incomplete.
        
       | amatic wrote:
       | > I started in 1934, [... ] At that time, the computing industry
       | was limited to mechanical calculators using the decimal system.
       | 
       | That seems a bit biased toward discrete systems. Engineers and
       | scientists of the time used mechanical and (later) electric
       | analog computers, and they were more powerful than the new
       | discrete systems, for most purposes. For example: Helmut
       | Hoelzer's Fully Electronic Analog Computer used in the German V2
       | (A4) rockets https://www.cdvandt.org/Hoelzer%20V4.pdf (text in
       | German, but has some pictures and diagrams)
        
         | 082349872349872 wrote:
         | See Abbildung 10 (p16) for an amazingly analog way to calculate
         | f(y(t))
         | 
         | > _Some have harsh words for this man of renown / But some
         | think our attitude / Should be one of gratitude_ --TAL
        
         | HPsquared wrote:
         | I guess base-10 is still "digital", in that it works with
         | digits.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related. Others?
       | 
       |  _User Manual for the Zuse Z4 Discovered (2020)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39124291 - Jan 2024 (4
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Plankalkul_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35053402 -
       | March 2023 (47 comments)
       | 
       |  _Reconstruction of mechanical logic gates and memory element of
       | the Zuse Z1_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32169178 -
       | July 2022 (2 comments)
       | 
       |  _The "Plankalkul" of Konrad Zuse: The first high level
       | programming language_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26593656 - March 2021 (1
       | comment)
       | 
       |  _Blocks Courtesy of Konrad Zuse (2014)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25712727 - Jan 2021 (10
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24605150 - Sept 2020 (61
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Discovery: User Manual of the Zuse Z4_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24573125 - Sept 2020 (14
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Plankalkul: The First High-Level Programming Language and Its
       | Implementation_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23364898 -
       | May 2020 (1 comment)
       | 
       |  _Antedating "datatype" all the way to Plankalkul (2017)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18975279 - Jan 2019 (2
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Calculating Space by Konrad Zuse (1969) [pdf]_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18325689 - Oct 2018 (1
       | comment)
       | 
       |  _Blocks Courtesy of Konrad Zuse (2014)_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17724173 - Aug 2018 (3
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Konrad Zuse and the digital revolution he started 75 years ago_
       | - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11682343 - May 2016 (53
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Plankalkul_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10909784 -
       | Jan 2016 (14 comments)
       | 
       |  _Konrad Zuse Internet Archive_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10377271 - Oct 2015 (1
       | comment)
       | 
       |  _The Z1: Architecture and Algorithms of Konrad Zuse 's First
       | Computer (2014) [pdf]_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10107955 - Aug 2015 (5
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Konrad Zuse: Nearly the German Turing_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9199500 - March 2015 (33
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Computers During World War Two: Konrad Zuse_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3282085 - Nov 2011 (7
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _100th anniversary of Konrad Zuse: creator of the first
       | programming language_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1451542 - June 2010 (21
       | comments)
        
       | LAC-Tech wrote:
       | I found out about Zuse because I was tasked with giving a
       | presentation about an important German, when I was taking German
       | classes at the Goethe Institut. Probably bored the hell out of
       | everyone listening, but it was a bit of an eye opener as he's not
       | so commonly discussed.
        
       | artemonster wrote:
       | Shameless plug: if you are interested in relay processors, check
       | out mine: https://github.com/artemonster/relay-cpu
        
       | sneed_chucker wrote:
       | If you speak German there are decent quality interviews of him
       | from the 80s on YouTube.
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgLOV5H4d30
        
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