[HN Gopher] NetBSD 10.0 Released
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       NetBSD 10.0 Released
        
       Author : schmonz
       Score  : 72 points
       Date   : 2024-03-30 20:29 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | schmonz wrote:
       | The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 10.0, the
       | eighteenth major release of the NetBSD operating system.
       | 
       | It represents cumulative improvements to the operating system
       | since NetBSD 9.x was originally branched in 2019.
        
       | jmclnx wrote:
       | congratulations, the RCs were quite stable so it should work well
       | for all!
        
       | t1c wrote:
       | > Apple M1 SoC support, e.g. the M1 Mac Mini.
       | 
       | AsahiBSD soon?
        
       | albinahlback wrote:
       | I've been interested to try out (Net|Open|Free)BSD for a while. I
       | mostly code and compile C code. What should one expect when going
       | from Linux to either of these BSD systems?
        
         | vbezhenar wrote:
         | Joy.
        
         | felixg3 wrote:
         | Expect to configure your drivers manually and poor support for
         | sleep on more recent devices. Otherwise, it's pretty great!
        
         | nvy wrote:
         | Poor driver support, poor performance, lots of manual editing
         | of config files to accomplish routine tasks, but BSD is "more
         | cohesive" according to most of its proponents.
        
         | yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
         | If you want something with GUI out of the box, consider
         | GhostBSD. IMHO OpenBSD also has an advantage when being used as
         | a laptop or desktop because its developers seem more inclined
         | to daily drive it than free/net.
        
         | DEADMINCE wrote:
         | From a userspace/user perspective, honestly not that much will
         | be different.
         | 
         | The package management is different from apt/rpm but there are
         | plenty of distros with pkgsrc type systems.
         | 
         | Most FOSS software is available and provided, for some Linux
         | only stuff there is linux emulation.
         | 
         | Less support for drivers and new features.
         | 
         | Really IMO it comes down to kernel features and development,
         | and given Linux kernel security attitudes *BSD can be pretty
         | tempting sometimes.
        
         | Narishma wrote:
         | A readable top output.
        
         | cess11 wrote:
         | It's true that drivers might require a bit of fiddling, but if
         | your hardware has been around for a while you'll probably
         | manage.
         | 
         | I'm quite fond of OpenBSD. It's such a nice, wholesome Unix
         | experience. The man-files are great, typically you can get by
         | on those if you mess up and lose Internet connection. To me it
         | has a feeling of being rock solid, like it'll never break.
         | Common programs differ a bit, pkg_add rather than
         | apt/RPM/pacman/&c., you'll probably use pf rather than ufw or
         | iptables, vmm/vmd rather than Docker/jails, flags on some
         | everyday terminal tooling work differently.
         | 
         | Some software just isn't available due to it being considered
         | insecure by the OpenBSD community or its 'dictator for life'.
         | As a C developer you might run into such constraints.
        
       | Decabytes wrote:
       | Yea babyyyy I've been waiting for this release. I've been eager
       | to fire it up on my Thinkpad.
        
       | strickman wrote:
       | Congrats on the eighteens major release.
        
       | dgfitz wrote:
       | I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a
       | lot of domains. I don't know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How
       | can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box...
       | which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
        
         | Mister_Snuggles wrote:
         | Why do you consider it a waste of time?
        
         | dbolgheroni wrote:
         | So you would only "expose yourself", specially a quite low
         | friction action of trying a new piece of software, if you know
         | someone who already "wasted their time" on it? Do you use the
         | same criteria with every piece of software? What's your point?
        
         | efortis wrote:
         | For FreeBSD, search for Netflix Open Connect appliance. Also,
         | follow @cperciva
         | 
         | For OpenBSD, build a router+firewall for your home.
         | 
         | For FreeBSD jails networking here is a post for a two server
         | infra https://blog.uirig.com/freebsd-jails-network-setup
        
       | krylon wrote:
       | Hooray! I've been running successive release candidates in a VM
       | for a couple of weeks now, just upgraded to 10.0-RC6 this week.
       | Guess I'll do another upgrade soon.
        
       | Mister_Snuggles wrote:
       | I've never used NetBSD, but this announcement is rekindling my
       | desire to install it on my old PowerBook G4.
        
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