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Roll-Invert-Unroll: An easier way to replace a duvet cover
Author : nvader
Score : 210 points
Date : 2024-03-30 19:16 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| lifeisstillgood wrote:
| Not only am I going to try this, I think it's a YouTube sensation
| in the making
| m463 wrote:
| right up there with japanese shirt folding:
|
| https://youtu.be/b5AWQ5aBjgE
| karaterobot wrote:
| Interesting that this is referred to as Japanese shirt
| folding. This is how I learned to do it decades ago, and
| there was no Japanese attribution at the time. I wonder if it
| is claimed (by whom?) to have been invented in Japan, or if
| it's just because the video is in Japanese.
| dist-epoch wrote:
| I learned about it from the Superdry brand which is a
| Japanese brand.
| n4r9 wrote:
| Superdry is a UK brand. They just make use of Japanese
| aesthetics.
| lamontcg wrote:
| And ranger rolling your t-shirts:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuD-ZZydsVg
| mderazon wrote:
| T-shirts are the easiest thing to fold. The real nightmare
| is the wife's pile of clothes. Every piece of clothing is
| unique and different in shape and size. Some of them I
| wouldn't even know how to wear let alone fold
| vundercind wrote:
| _Exact_ same video where I first saw this. I love the audio.
| ninkendo wrote:
| I remember learning this and thinking it was so cool. Then I
| realized how much effort it takes to lay a shirt so flat and
| straight on a flat surface in the first place, and I went
| back to my "grab the shoulders, shake the middle away from
| me, bring them together, tuck sleeves in while folding in
| half" way I've always done.
|
| Half the work of shirt folding is getting the shirt to a
| known orientation anyway, I much prefer letting gravity do
| the work here.
| alargemoose wrote:
| Came across this right before I start laundry, looks like I have
| a test to run!
| sandesh247 wrote:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFOhjljieqs
|
| same method, but in video form.
| hackernewds wrote:
| much better with this advance technology
| greggsy wrote:
| While it was quaint to read through the high effort blog
| post, it was like reading a cooking blog that starts off with
| reminiscing about travels through an Italian village where
| they learnt how to make toast.
| mderazon wrote:
| Reminds me of these topology tricks
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ebiyOtn7NA
| Kailhus wrote:
| Sorcery!
| nlawalker wrote:
| Been doing this for years, sans the roll/unroll. After tying the
| corners, reach all the way inside the inside-out cover, grab the
| two corners furthest from the opening, pull all the way through,
| and shake.
| pablobaz wrote:
| My preferred technique is to also start with the cover inside
| out. Then put your hands inside the cyber into its corners. Then
| grasp two corners of the duvet through the fabric. A bit of
| shaking to turn the cover the right way out and you are done.
| megadog3 wrote:
| I call this the ghost method, because you look like a ghost
| with your arms through the inverted duvet cover.
| Tomte wrote:
| My girlfriend insists that the your head does not go inside.
| But why would you forgo all that fun?
| groestl wrote:
| I do that with my kid. For funsies. Also high in the list:
| snake bites foot (to put on his tights).
| lagrange77 wrote:
| I think this is the official strategy, i've never seen someone
| using a different one.
| Semaphor wrote:
| What other way is there? This is how I learned it from my mom
| and have done it ever since.
|
| Edit: I guess there's this rolling method, which seems a lot
| more convoluted based on the videos.
| pablobaz wrote:
| IME lots of people just try stuff the duvet in and then shake
| it to get it in the right place.
| Semaphor wrote:
| That is fascinating. Just asked my wife, who's from another
| continent, she's as flabbergasted as me.
| pablobaz wrote:
| As a kid we didn't have duvets. It was all sheets and
| blankets. Duvets were a bit new-fangled so it's not
| surprising the knowledge wasn't passed down.
| chatmasta wrote:
| Someone should write a book called _Household Chores for
| Hackers: The algorithms your mother took for granted and
| forgot to teach you_.
| Ldorigo wrote:
| I would buy it.
| ErigmolCt wrote:
| I would invest in it
| etrautmann wrote:
| The book "Algorithms to live by" comes close
| spuz wrote:
| This is what I do. I take a corner of the inner and stuff
| it into the outer until I find the corner of the outer.
| Then I try to keep those two corners in place while I do
| the same with the other corner. Then I grab both corners
| from the outside and do a lot of vigourous shaking until
| everything lines up. It takes ages and doesn't always work.
| I think I will try starting inside out from now on.
| Jare wrote:
| I do that and while the shaking is unpredictable and
| often requires doing it from multiple sides, I find it a
| strong but strangely pleasant exercise for my shoulders.
| stephencanon wrote:
| The rolling method is really exactly the same thing, but some
| people find it easier to think about reaching in for the
| corners after rolling, and you don't need to be tall enough
| to let it fall down into place (wife is 5'4" and rolls, I'm
| 6'4" and just reach for the far corners).
| bootsmann wrote:
| The duvet is like a parachute, you don't need to shake it
| in from the top you can shake it in like a magician doing
| the table clearing trick.
| Semaphor wrote:
| If it's the same, then some people here posted really bad
| videos of it ;)
|
| FWIW, my wife is tiny (160cm) and still does the reverse
| grip method
| sunshowers wrote:
| I use the rolling method for the joy it brings each time :)
| ErigmolCt wrote:
| This is a skill that is passed down to us through
| "inheritance"
| chatmasta wrote:
| Yeah, I don't think there's a need for the roll. You just need
| to make sure you can hold it high enough in the air to shake
| the thing without letting the bottom rest on the floor.
|
| I just think of it like a really big pillow case. I put the
| pillow case on inside out so I do the same for the duvet cover.
|
| I don't remember where I picked this up either, but I do
| remember it caused an ex girlfriend to get irrationally angry
| and tell me I was doing it wrong... that's when I knew she
| wasn't a keeper!
| globular-toast wrote:
| I think it could be useful for shorter people who can't hold
| it up high enough. I just hold it up and shake it, though.
| Macha wrote:
| As a short person, my strategy is to stand on the bed for
| extra height for this method. Or just be lazy and accept
| the slightly uneven distribution, which works itself out
| after the first night anyway.
| clnhlzmn wrote:
| Yeah I find the rolling method is more work than it's worth
| when the "grab the corners and shake vigorously" method works
| just fine.
| louthy wrote:
| This is the way
| ErigmolCt wrote:
| I remember how my parents used to do this together the same way
| you describe, and I was always getting in their way. It was a
| lot of fun.
| mlok wrote:
| I was never taught this, but I ended up "reinventing" it a few
| decades ago, certainly because this is the most efficient way ?
| I have always used this technique since.
| rSi wrote:
| WTF!? I heard before that putting a cover on a duvet was a
| thing, a problem, a mystery... are ppl making this up? is this
| a joke I don't get invert, tie corners together and what not...
|
| my family and everyone i know do it the way @pablobaz describes
| it. it's simple and effective. change sheets whenever you feel
| like doing it, because its easy and fast... endof story
| dgfitz wrote:
| Hard agree. Changing a duvet cover is not hard. Maybe we are
| just getting stupider as a species.
| barbazoo wrote:
| That's how I learned it from my mama and that's what ill teach
| the children.
| twodave wrote:
| I think you might also just roll the inner up, stick it the
| bottom of a collapsed cover, then grab both an exposed inner
| corner + side of the cover in each hand and stand up with it,
| shaking a bit to get it to unroll on the way down.
| twic wrote:
| This is what I do. I don't actually roll the duvet up, just do
| a rough concertina fold
| napoleongl wrote:
| " Imagine replacing your duvet cover in minutes" When i was 18
| and begun my career I hospitality, we'd change a twin bed
| completely in like 3-4 minutes. How do you spend minutes with
| just one duvet (excluding disabilities but that's quite obvious).
| Also, this is why Swedish duvet covers have holes in the upper
| corners, just reach through them and grab the liner and pull it
| in, shake a bit, and you're done.
| nvy wrote:
| >How do you spend minutes with just one duvet
|
| Ours is supremely irritating because the duvet gets folded over
| or bunched up inside the cover and shaking it does not fix
| this.
|
| So I have to get bodily into the fucking cover and stick each
| corner in place. It's infuriating and I hate duvets for this
| reason.
| noduerme wrote:
| I once zipped my girlfriend up inside a cover while she was
| doing this, it was quite funny.
| ignoramous wrote:
| _gzipped_.
| vundercind wrote:
| God damnit. Now I'm bound to someday call it "girlfriend
| zip" out loud at work and it's gonna be a whole _thing_.
| napoleongl wrote:
| I guess I've been lucky in which duvets and liners I have met
| in my life. Only time I've met opposition is with flannel
| covers, but those are just horrible in all other ways except
| for starting fires.
| narag wrote:
| I do it in fifteen seconds at most, stuffing it without any
| consideration just keeping two corners in one hand, then
| matching them with two cover's corners and gently shaking.
|
| Also genuinely baffled about the article, but to be honest, not
| the first time that I hear someone hating the procedure and
| describing some problem that I don't understand.
| spuz wrote:
| I can think of lots of reasons. My double bed is in the corner
| of a small room so I only have access to one side of it.
| Lifting the mattress to put on a fitted sheet is very awkward
| and pretty strenuous. This also means that there isn't much
| room for laying out both a duvet and duvet cover. Typically I
| lay them both on the bed at the same time because I don't want
| either to touch the floor which makes inserting the duvet into
| the cover even more awkward. Next is the fact that a double
| sized duvet is almost but not quite square. It's quite easy to
| grab a corner of the duvet and match it with the wrong corner
| of the cover. Lastly, I only do this about once a week not 10
| times a day so I haven't had a need to find a better method so
| far.
| olejorgenb wrote:
| Visual: https://knotte.com/pages/nordic-design-duvet-cover-
| hand-pock...
| ThrowawayTestr wrote:
| I just put the whole thing in the washing machine and run the
| drier for two hours.
| cyberax wrote:
| Doesn't work well with duvets filled with feathers.
| jrockway wrote:
| I go into the duvet cover with the duvet. Hold the two upper
| corners, put the duvet cover over your head, attach each corner
| of the duvet to the corresponding corner in the duvet cover (I
| buy ones with strings for this purpose). Then extricate yourself,
| hold the corners you just attached, shake vigorously, handle fine
| alignment of the bottom corners, and button the thing up.
|
| I am sure people will make fun of this but I get it done in a
| minute (buttoning all the buttons at the bottom is the hardest
| part), and I do wash it every 2 weeks, so... poke fun all you
| want, at least I'm not rolling around in filth from a month ago.
| mixmastamyk wrote:
| I couldn't understand past the part where it was rolled down to
| the bottom, Fig 6.
|
| However, this was never a problem for me. I simply grab the top
| corner of the inner part and match it inside with inside corner
| of the outer part. Then the other top corner. Then pull them both
| to the top of the bed, then fix the bottom--easy.
| lstamour wrote:
| https://www.extrapetite.com/2021/03/how-to-put-duvet-cover-b...
| Might make a bit more sense, but I'm still trying to follow it
| myself. I'll have to try it to get it, I think.
| angrylaunderer wrote:
| Holy shit this is going to change my life.
| vik23052016 wrote:
| This practice of roll-invert-unroll is very common in India. I
| recall putting on liners on beddings and blankets when I was ~6
| year old in the 1990s.
|
| I didn't realize until I saw comments that it's not the normal
| way here in western parts. I think may be hospitality industry
| may use it already and not commonly documented. Thanks for
| documenting it. Now I have a blog to point to when teaching my
| kids.
| pandemic_region wrote:
| This is not a western parts thing, just one guy discovering
| something most consider common knowledge here.
| acchow wrote:
| I learned this from my grandmother's domestic helper in Hong
| Kong. Brilliant trick!
| fellowniusmonk wrote:
| For a queen size duvet I just stuff the entire duvet inside the
| cover and then align the two corners farthest from the hole,
| pinch from the outside and shake, takes less than a minute if I'm
| in a rush and no inversion required. I do have very long arms
| though, and maybe this would be faster for a king size duvet
| cover.
| sneak wrote:
| They make duvet covers that zip all the way down two sides. And
| they make little padded clips for the corners so there is no
| tying.
| spurgu wrote:
| Where I'm from we have holes in the top corners of the cover.
| Just put your arms in there, grab the duvet and pull it in, shake
| it a bit, done (additionally you might need to fix the bottom
| corners and shake again). I was surprised when I went to other
| countries where you have to fiddle with only a bottom opening.
| Permik wrote:
| Fellow Finn here, I'm flabbergasted how the rest of the world
| hasn't figured this out apart from us in the nordics :D
| fmbb wrote:
| In 2007 Ikea stopped selling duvet covers with holes in the
| corners. "It's for the international market" they said.
|
| There was a national uproar. People no longer knew how to
| make their beds.
|
| Attempts were made at convincing them to bring the holes back
| but without success. We have now settled for the typical
| Swedish response of making an angry fist with the hand
| securely hidden inside a pants pocket.
| ww520 wrote:
| Was it how topology was invented?
| ricardobeat wrote:
| I just hold the duvet by the two front corners, shove it inside
| the cover and find the edges. Hold the edges from the outside of
| the cover, shake. Takes 30 seconds.
|
| We also change it weekly, sleeping in the same covers for a month
| sounds disgusting.
| EthicalSimilar wrote:
| This is the way. I also use this method and change weekly. It's
| pretty efficient, especially for larger duvets.
| what wrote:
| People often have a flat sheet between them and the duvet that
| gets washed more frequently.
| lumost wrote:
| Best decision I ever made was to skip the duvets and buy a polar
| fleece blanket for $30. Not to hot, not to cold, machine washable
| and $30.
| tokai wrote:
| You'll make a ton of microplastic washing a fleece blanket
| often.
| goodpoint wrote:
| WTF?!? People don't change bedsheet every week?!
| thomond wrote:
| Might depend on how much you sweat and the climate where you
| live. I personally change every week during summer but
| fortnightly during winter.
| pandemic_region wrote:
| Next up: he learns how to slice bread.
|
| But seriously, why is this news worthy? My grandmother showed me
| how to do this way before this guy was even born.
| sunshowers wrote:
| I also learned it from my grandparents, but I've been the one
| introducing it to a number of people in my life. Some of them
| have described it as black magic -- so it's not very well-
| known.
| NeoTar wrote:
| If you're only changing your duvet cover once a month (or less)
| you're sleeping under a sheet under the duvet, right?
|
| We don't do sheets and are in the change once a week camp.
| forgotusername6 wrote:
| Nope. Duvet changes every couple of months perhaps. Sleep
| straight under the duvet. Thought this was normal. Never heard
| of a sheet under the duvet
| skeletal88 wrote:
| Then it is like changing your shirt every two months? You do
| sweat when sleeping.
| jebarker wrote:
| Presumably they wash though, probably after getting out of
| bed.
| groestl wrote:
| And before crawling into it.
| apimade wrote:
| tl;dr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRPfudNNd8Y
| bhaney wrote:
| I wasn't even aware duvets were still used outside of hotels. You
| guys don't just have sheets and a regular blanket on your bed? Is
| it a cultural/regional thing? They seem very annoying to deal
| with and I've never found them to be particularly comfortable, so
| I'm surprised so many people here seem to use them.
| timbaboon wrote:
| Haha amazing, I've now just discovered that some places _don't_
| use duvets. I thought (naively) that it was worldwide...
| tdiff wrote:
| Exactly, living in Europe, I've literally encountered the
| sheet+blanket combination for the first time a week ago, in a
| hotel. Duvets with covers ARE the norm.
| vundercind wrote:
| Wait... you don't use a sheet under a duvet? What do you
| wrap under yourself? Not the duvet, that'd be too thick,
| surely.
| Jare wrote:
| A sheet covering the mattress, then we lying on top, then
| the duvet covering us to varying degrees of area and
| precision depending on temperature and activity while
| asleep. My son snakes over and under the duvet several
| times along his body.
| tdiff wrote:
| I meant a second sheet between you and a duvet. Ofc there
| is another one covering the matress.
| fnordpiglet wrote:
| You can have a much higher quality material for both inside and
| outside, and washing the cover is easier than a full comforter.
| You wash the inside more rarely with a duvet cover. You can
| also have one inside and many covers for variety of styles
| during seasons without having an entire room of the house for
| storing comforters
| zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
| Most of the people I knew in Australia 10 years ago had duvets.
| I never even knew what a duvet was until I went to Australia.
| Moved back to the US and got one. I can only think of one other
| person I know here who has a duvet
| edward28 wrote:
| Also we call them doonas.
| Unbeliever69 wrote:
| My absolute favorite items in this world are my down comforters
| and duvets. I have a thick one for winter and a thin one for
| summer. Sometimes I have them both on the bed and use one as a
| snuggle blanket. Every night when I crawl in bed it is a form
| of catharsis like a cat making biscuits.
| wrp wrote:
| I think it's regional. Growing up in the western USA, I never
| saw a duvet with a removable cover. Living in Japan/Korea, I've
| never seen people use the sheets+blanket arrangement in the
| home.
|
| BTW, I first heard the word "duvet" as a teenager watching
| British comedy on PBS. I had to look it up in the dictionary.
| vundercind wrote:
| Grew up in the Midwest. Unusual in my family and circles.
| I've known what they are since some time in my teens
| (there's... a chance the film Fight Club's actually the first
| time I both encountered the word and put together some idea
| of what it specifically meant, though I'd heard it before and
| thought it was just a fancy word for "comforter") but we
| never had any, I've never put a cover on one, and I've never
| _seen_ someone putting a cover on one.
| Nition wrote:
| Duvets are really warm, good in winter for cold houses without
| good insulation. Often they're as warm as three or four or even
| five woolen blankets, but much lighter. Four blankets on top of
| you is _heavy_.
|
| I find them annoying in hotels though, where the rooms are
| usually pretty warm. They use relatively thin inners but
| they're still usually way too hot for the conditions.
| KerrickStaley wrote:
| None of the apartments I've lived in for the past few years
| have had a washer large enough to wash a king-sized comforter,
| so I use a duvet instead.
| Macha wrote:
| I take it you're in a warmer climate, a regular blanket is
| insufficient for many months of a year here. Like growing up, I
| had multiple blankets and a duvet, and had similar in some less
| well insulated houses I've lived in. My current house is better
| insulated, so a duvet on its own is generally sufficient.
| 8organicbits wrote:
| There's some articles that discuss this switch. It may be a
| generational preference.
|
| https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/why-millennials-aren-apos-t-...
| llimos wrote:
| I vary it based on if the cover came out the machine inside out
| or not.
|
| If it did, I spread out the duvet, burrow inside the cover, grab
| the far corners of the cover from the inside and then through it
| also the corners of the duvet at the same time, and invert it.
|
| If it came out the right way round, I spread out the _cover_ ,
| grab two corners of the duvet, burrow inside the cover _with_ the
| two corners of the duvet until they reach their destination, and
| come out again.
| zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
| I've been doing it this way for years. Saw a YouTube video on it.
| Before that, I struggled to get the duvet back in the cover
| bartkappenburg wrote:
| Also known as the "burrito roll"
| Unbeliever69 wrote:
| My preferred technique is to grab a corner, crawl inside the
| duvet and pin it to the corresponding corner. Then I crawl out
| and repeat with the opposite corner. From there, I just pull the
| front two corners over the comforter then button/zip it up then
| furl it out. I'm not saying this is the best method but it works
| fine for me. My wife has no techniques that work for her, lol.
| HarHarVeryFunny wrote:
| Holy crap!
|
| I've been wrestling with duvet covers the wrong way my whole
| life!
|
| The Rachael Ray video @sandesh247 posted shows how simple this
| is.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFOhjljieqs
| hank808 wrote:
| Is this what it's come to? Since AI has taken over tech, we're
| now discussing duvet cover removal/replacement methods?
| frenchie4111 wrote:
| Can someone make a diagram or video for us visually minded folk
|
| edit: nvm found it in a sister comment
| kirenida wrote:
| Related question: what method do you use to keep the duvet in
| place inside the cover?
|
| I have some animal themed safety pins that my parents used on my
| duvet since I was a child. I put four of them in a square shape
| around the middle of the cover when the duvet is inside.
| sunshowers wrote:
| My duvet covers have ties you can use against any duvet.
|
| My parents used to use safety pins.
| mlok wrote:
| If needed, I grab a cover border, and align the duvet border
| within it, make sure corners are aligned too, and then again :
| shake it. It comes back to place.
| dgfitz wrote:
| It just stays.
| orliesaurus wrote:
| Kinda off topic but what is the name of the background on this
| blog? i.e. those patterns do they have a name? My mom used to
| have the same patterns on some sheets as a kid but no clue what
| they're called?
| rfwhXQ5H wrote:
| Paisley
| whiw wrote:
| Paisley pattern. Oh, somebody beat me to it.
| theNJR wrote:
| Related question. Why is it that those damn strings break off
| after a few years? There must be a better way of attaching.
| Drives me nuts.
| EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote:
| Images don't show in my Firefox.
| timvisee wrote:
| It does for me. Firefox on Android.
| SmellTheGlove wrote:
| Our duvet covers all have two fabric loops in the corners. You
| push a bit of the duvet through those and then just pull it over.
| Works very nicely.
| veunes wrote:
| It so cool to see it on the first page
| michaelhoney wrote:
| In Australia a duvet is called a "doona" and while there are some
| perverts who use a sheet between person and doona (these are
| people who don't like to wash doona covers), fitted-
| sheet=>sleeper=>doona is the standard
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