[HN Gopher] IrfanView
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       IrfanView
        
       Author : omnibrain
       Score  : 254 points
       Date   : 2024-03-30 13:56 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.irfanview.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.irfanview.com)
        
       | meristohm wrote:
       | Back when i used Windows, IrfanView was my go-to image viewer,
       | downloaded along with SumatraPDF via ninite.com. There's
       | something similar in the repositories in Software Manager on
       | Linux Mint, and Pix is fuller-featured, but like Foobar2000 for
       | music, I still miss IrfanView from time to time, probably because
       | of muscle memory and being more impressionable back then.
       | (There's almostt certainly a way to get these Windows programs
       | running on LMDE, I just don't care enough to mess with it.)
        
       | pestatije wrote:
       | i use it to see .sid images...never found any other way to open
       | those
        
         | cess11 wrote:
         | Is QGIS too bulky?
        
       | techknight wrote:
       | In Windows it's still faster than anything else if you've copied
       | an image to clipboard to open irfanview -> paste -> save, or to
       | do a quick crop or whatever.
        
         | respondo2134 wrote:
         | for those increasingly rare times you want to print an image
         | it's great too.
        
         | verstandhandel wrote:
         | or just the batch mode ... very helpful and fast.
        
       | respondo2134 wrote:
       | irfanview for images, vlc for videos, foobar for audio - so much
       | better than anything bundled with windows since forever
        
         | Pigalowda wrote:
         | And greenshot for snipping!
        
           | haunter wrote:
           | ShareX
        
         | pawelduda wrote:
         | Never could get into foobar... team winamp here
        
           | poisonborz wrote:
           | That is long dead, try AIMP, it even supports Winamp dsp-s.
        
         | furyofantares wrote:
         | voidtools/everything for filesystem
        
       | esafak wrote:
       | Windows was good for shareware developers because people had to
       | buy utilities to like Irfanview to basically replace all the junk
       | the OS shipped with. I eventually drop-kicked the whole OS and
       | now life is good.
        
       | antegamisou wrote:
       | Along with ImageJ, that is open-source and has found use by
       | researchers among many different disciplines, they're great
       | examples of longstanding projects done right.
        
         | buescher wrote:
         | ImageJ has roots (NIH Image) that predate Photoshop.
        
       | playingalong wrote:
       | That's my first memory of a program with keyboard shortcuts not
       | being the typical ones, but still usable and thought through.
       | 
       | Enter/return to go full screen (or exit from full screen?).
        
       | noufalibrahim wrote:
       | One of those things you had to install on a new windows system.
        
         | theoa wrote:
         | Still do
        
       | instagraham wrote:
       | Why are most comments referring to having used this in the past
       | tense? I was under the impression that it was still the best
       | image viewer in town, on Windows at least
        
         | Rinzler89 wrote:
         | Because of a few things:
         | 
         | 1. Windows 11 now ships with quite a decent and powerful image
         | viewer/editor that covers most average users' use cases,
         | therefore lowering the demand from people to go out of their
         | way to find alternatives, like in the Windows XP days, which is
         | a good thing (less likely to go download malware from the first
         | Google result of "image viewer for Windows XP").
         | 
         | 2. PC usage behavior has changed a lot since then. Many people
         | don't even have PCs at home anymore, and people now have most
         | of their pics in the cloud or on their phone or some external
         | NAS that comes with it's own browser viewer app, instead of
         | hoarding them all on their home PC hard drive, further lowering
         | the need to seek out dedicated image viewers to manage giant
         | offline collections of digital camera pics(I mean I still do,
         | but I'm a minority nowadays).
         | 
         | These two factors combined meant the death of the third party
         | PC image viewer app. Yeah, Irfan might be "the best", but the
         | need for the best in this sector has declined significantly,
         | and most users are now fine with "good enough".
        
           | typon wrote:
           | The "enshittification" of computing. The Windows 11 default
           | Photo Viewer has probably 20% of the features of IrfanView -
           | and the problem is that normal users don't know a better tool
           | exists for free if they need those extra features. As the
           | resident techie in my house I get asked by people to do
           | simple things like overlay text in a certain style or print a
           | photo with a particular resolution or print multiple photos
           | etc. and these tasks are just harder or impossible with the
           | default tools
        
             | broast wrote:
             | I'm guessing even if they knew the tool existed they would
             | still rather ask you to do it. Not everyone wants to
             | understand computers or download programs
        
               | copperx wrote:
               | More importantly, not everybody wants to be entirely self
               | reliant. They're ok with small task delegation.
        
               | cellularmitosis wrote:
               | Sometimes you don't realize things about yourself until
               | someone else puts it into words. Thank you, internet
               | stranger
        
           | formerly_proven wrote:
           | Does the Windows 11 photo viewer still have that gross
           | flickering when changing images and absurdly slow startup
           | that the Windows 10 photo viewer added when they replaced the
           | old Vista/7 viewer, which had none of these issues?
        
             | Rinzler89 wrote:
             | What flickering do you have? I don't see any. As for
             | startup time, I dunno, seems to open in less than half a
             | second for me, though on a relatively high end laptop. On a
             | 10 year old machine it might suffer.
        
               | nutrie wrote:
               | I rarely use Windows these days, but IrfanView feels
               | lightning fast compared to the built-in Photos app or
               | whatever they call it. I started using IV I think on Win
               | 98 and it's still as snappy and reliable as it always has
               | been.
        
               | hilbert42 wrote:
               | I haven't used the latest Windows viewer because I'm no
               | longer prepared to upgrade to the latest versions of
               | Windows, but the old version was a dog of a program
               | compared to IrfanView, it was slow, couldn't display many
               | formats and would misbehave if the image files were
               | damaged.
               | 
               | And yes, at times it flickers and or images can tear.
        
               | Rinzler89 wrote:
               | The recent photo viewer is great. I never felt the need
               | to install Irfan anymore just to view photos since .. a
               | long time now.
               | 
               | I mean why would I? If all I need is viewing a couple of
               | photos every now and then, cropping and rotating one or
               | two and drawing some circles on them to highlight
               | something in a screenshot and Windows already does that
               | then why bother with Irfan other than habit and
               | nostalgia.
        
           | hilbert42 wrote:
           | _"...and people now have most of their pics in the cloud or
           | on their phone, "_
           | 
           | ...until Google closes their account or their data becomes
           | otherwise inaccessible!
           | 
           | It horrifies me that so many people are so willing to commit
           | their valuable data to the cloud just because of convenience.
           | 
           | Leaving aside Big Tech's spying on users and selling away
           | their privacy, users who commit data to the cloud put its
           | integrity and ultimately its long-term survival in the hands
           | of third parties who couldn't give a damn whether it was lost
           | or destroyed--their only interest is the income it generates.
           | 
           | That the shift to the cloud has been so complete is very
           | disconcerting. It never ceases to amaze me that so many are
           | so trusting of others that they'd actually hand over their
           | valuable data for safekeeping to the likes of Google, et al.
           | I've used the internet since before the inception of the Web
           | and I've never once committed any of my data to the cloud
           | (but if I had to then it'd be an encrypted backup).
           | 
           | Re IrfanView, I used to use Ed Hamrick's rather excellent
           | image viewer VuePrint until I came across IrfanView about two
           | decades ago. For numerous reasons IrfanView is the best
           | viewer out there.
        
             | jenscow wrote:
             | Because the chances of Google closing accounts or losing
             | data is much lower than a consumer's usb drive being
             | damaged or lost.
        
               | Nuzzerino wrote:
               | ...that wasn't the point? Keeping possessions safe is the
               | responsibility of the possessor. If you keep them all in
               | one place with no backups, you can lose them more easily.
               | 
               | And by the way, you don't actually know the probability
               | of a random person losing access to a Google account vs
               | losing physical mediums, let alone how many of those
               | cases were cases where their only photos were stored
               | there. It's obviously different from person to person,
               | and maybe you can estimate that one is safer than the
               | other in individual cases, but you can't extrapolate that
               | and say it applies in every person's case. But the GP was
               | referring to cases where it was implied the only copy was
               | stored on the cloud.
        
               | overtomanu wrote:
               | Plus, it is convenient to sync photos directly from
               | mobile to the cloud without the need to set up syncing
               | software or do periodic transfer/backup from mobile to
               | PC.
        
             | dpacmittal wrote:
             | > It horrifies me that so many people are so willing to
             | commit their valuable data to the cloud just because of
             | convenience.
             | 
             | I used to get horrified too until I learned that average
             | user doesn't care much about losing pictures. My wife has
             | lost phone full of pics multiple times and she's upset for
             | like few hours.
        
               | JeremyNT wrote:
               | This is an important insight.
               | 
               | It's easy to obsess over the idea of _any_ data loss,
               | because the value of _some_ data is quite high. But for
               | most people in most circumstances losing their cloud
               | hosted photos is probably not a big deal, and it 's also
               | probably far less likely than the users losing locally
               | stored photos due to some mistake of their own.
        
               | BLKNSLVR wrote:
               | You don't know what you've lost until it's something you
               | want to re-live or remember.
               | 
               | I go back through photos and videos of my kids and it
               | reminds me that I succeeded at something worthwhile and
               | difficult for at least a period of my life. They had a
               | blessed childhood.
               | 
               | Food or selfies and even holiday snaps mean little. But
               | the kids... that's the raison d'etre.
               | 
               | Overall it's these photos and videos that are my
               | strongest motivation for the paranoia-level backup setup
               | I have.
        
             | nuancebydefault wrote:
             | Wait a minute, if you don't have copies of data in the
             | cloud, you have copies on HDDs and CDRWs? From experience I
             | know that those fail within 10 years or so. Lot's of my
             | data is already 20+ years in the cloud.
        
         | gsich wrote:
         | It's not.
        
           | j45 wrote:
           | Alternative?
        
             | yau8edq12i wrote:
             | The built-in viewer in windows is fine. I can't really
             | think of a feature that it doesn't have that I need. Could
             | you say why irfanview gets your vote?
        
               | jjbinx007 wrote:
               | The batch image manipulation features it offers are
               | pretty handy. Plus you can press L or R to rotate an
               | image and it has lossless rotate options as well.
        
               | j45 wrote:
               | I'm pretty sure it had batch processing capabilities
               | before Photoshop.
        
               | jajko wrote:
               | The speed, plugins ecosystem, many more formats supported
               | out of the box, crop being faster and more intuitive,
               | often good enough auto adjust.
               | 
               | Irfan for images and vlc for video is the name of the
               | game for me (and total commander for file management, the
               | efficiency compared to simpler stuff is still in wow
               | territory).
        
               | j45 wrote:
               | IrfanView started so long ago, got and stayed so far
               | ahead.
               | 
               | Wish there was a mac version, but it can be run in an
               | emulator easy enough.
        
               | copperx wrote:
               | DidectoryOpus is even better, but it's expensive.
        
               | card_zero wrote:
               | It's also a paint tool (edit->show paint dialog), and
               | does tricks like swapping channels or repeating the image
               | as a grid of tiles, which are handy when programming
               | something involving raster graphics or textures.
        
               | jacekm wrote:
               | It's about speed mostly. And I got used to the shortcuts,
               | ctrl+r to resize, 'i' to check image metadata. I don't
               | really use any of the editing features (I use Paint.NET
               | for edits). In theory I don't need a dedicated image
               | viewer but I like IrfanView so much that I even paid for
               | it so I can have it on company's laptop.
        
               | j45 wrote:
               | Install it and you'll see within 5-10 minutes the next
               | time you have go through a bunch of images, or do
               | something to a bunch of images.
               | 
               | IrfanView likely still supports more formats, since it
               | was earlier than any other tool. This means any edge
               | cases in file encoding that might not work, or render
               | ideally likely has been solved there first.
               | 
               | It probably has some batch file conversion tricks in it
               | too.
               | 
               | IrfanView also provided for free for a lot of years what
               | was hard to get without paying. If it existed on mac I'd
               | be all over it.
               | 
               | Ah, the windows viewer always wasn't that good.
               | 
               | And if I remember the big first improvement of it was
               | copying a lot of IrfanView.
               | 
               | Since this post, I remembered another old friend that was
               | excellent on windows, AcdSEE. Also worth looking into.
        
         | allanrbo wrote:
         | It made more sense to go through the effort to install
         | IrfanView when there was no image previewer built into windows,
         | in the days of Windows 95/98/ME/2000. Those only had MS Paint,
         | and I think some versions only supported bmp files (no jpeg or
         | gif). Windows XP had an ok image previewer.
        
           | joshuaissac wrote:
           | > no image previewer built into windows, in the days of
           | Windows 95/98/ME/2000
           | 
           | Windows has shipped with an image previewer since Windows ME.
           | You can see it in this screenshot: https://www.reddit.com/r/w
           | indows98/comments/y1lj7x/winme_ima...
        
             | earslap wrote:
             | IIRC the killer "feature" that gave these previewers
             | traction (ACDSee, IrfanView etc.) was that you could just
             | preview a bunch of images in a folder using your arrow
             | keys. So you'd just load one and use arrow keys to see the
             | other images in the same folder. With the built-in options,
             | you'd have to double click images one by one (and close
             | their windows one by one) which was a horrible UX compared
             | to what these provided.
        
             | lstamour wrote:
             | That's the "Preview pane" in explorer. It only supports the
             | file types you could preview in explorer, it only "opens"
             | the file currently selected in Explorer, and didn't let you
             | zoom in or inspect the image in any way that I recall. It
             | was a plain preview that was supported (in ME) by the
             | integrations Explorer had with Internet Explorer, I
             | believe. Often installing IrfanView let you preview more
             | file types in Explorer, and you could open more than one,
             | display them full screen, edit them, resize them, and
             | more...
        
         | abulman wrote:
         | Agreed - I'm still using it everyday to view and do some minor
         | editing (trimming and resizing pics). It, along with browsers,
         | VLC, Putty, and SublimeText (and now also ObsidianMD) are the
         | first things I will download to a new Windows PC.
        
         | haunter wrote:
         | I use JPEGView nowadays https://github.com/sylikc/jpegview
        
           | Semaphor wrote:
           | Does it have feature parity? Just from the list it looks like
           | it only supports a small fraction of what Irfan view does.
        
             | netol wrote:
             | No that many. It supports the most important ones though,
             | and it is the fastest
        
         | thih9 wrote:
         | Most people look at images via browser these days.
        
           | pdntspa wrote:
           | Who cares what 'most people do'? Why are we constantly
           | resorting to this tired refrain of "majority rules"? Have you
           | all forgotten that niche things exist?
        
             | Rinzler89 wrote:
             | _> Who cares what 'most people do'?_
             | 
             | Democracy and economics.
             | 
             |  _> Why are we constantly resorting to this tired refrain
             | of "majority rules"?_
             | 
             | It's not constantly, it's the answer to this question. Why
             | are you getting your knickers in a twist?
             | 
             | In this case he gave the answer to the question of why
             | Irfan view isn't popular anymore and the answer is because
             | the majority of people have moved on.
             | 
             | It's not something he decided or that he can change, it's
             | just the fact and he's reported it to you. The fact that
             | you don't like the reality, is your own issue.
        
             | scubbo wrote:
             | > Why are most comments referring to having used this in
             | the past tense?
             | 
             | > Who cares what 'most people do'?
             | 
             | Someone trying to understand why _most_ comments reflect a
             | certain behaviour is, by definition, someone who cares
             | about understanding what "what most people do".
        
             | thih9 wrote:
             | Niche things by definition are less popular. In my
             | grandparent comment I was explaining why standalone image
             | viewers are less popular. Looks like we agree.
        
           | hilbert42 wrote:
           | _"...via browser these days. "_
           | 
           | 'Most people' = LCD/lowest common denominator.
           | 
           | If one doesn't mind grovelling around at the bottom then
           | that's fine.
        
             | broodbucket wrote:
             | This seems unnecessarily harsh.
        
               | hilbert42 wrote:
               | It may be, but by whose or what standard?
               | 
               | We are now in an age where expected norms in society are
               | such that the slightest criticism of anyone--even if
               | justified--is taken as offensive by both the recipient
               | and by onlookers.
               | 
               | Unfortunately, keeping mum and not saying anything just
               | lets people off the hook, they no longer have to justify
               | their actions either to themselves or anyone else. In
               | fact, I'd argue that in recent years the trend has gotten
               | so bad and out of hand that it's having a very noticeable
               | negative impact on society.
               | 
               | Clearly, I'm older than you, when I was younger this
               | comment would have hardly raised an eyebrow (right, I'm
               | old enough to have noticed this societal change and the
               | negative impact it's had).
               | 
               | When I was at school we were actively taught to ignore
               | unwarranted critism, and even if it were justified to
               | consider carefully what was actually said before
               | responding. In fact, the old adage that _' sticks and
               | stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me'_
               | was drummed into us kids at a very early age (in infants
               | school). Can you imagin teachers teaching that today? I'd
               | reckon they'd likely be lynched.
               | 
               | Now, what's the situation nowadays when kids are no
               | longer taught how to develop and strengthen their
               | resilience? Well, one only has to look at social media.
               | Now we have kids taking great offense at something
               | someone has said to them and they're getting upset to
               | such an extent that some even resort to suicide. (When I
               | was a kid suicide was something that only adults with
               | disturbed minds did--never kids or teenagers, it was
               | unheard of. No doubt there were isolated instances but we
               | kids never heard of them.)
        
         | codetrotter wrote:
         | For me it's because I haven't run Windows for ages
        
           | monocasa wrote:
           | I've run it via wine for probably close to twenty years now.
        
         | Saris wrote:
         | The built in photos app is quite good now, although it can't
         | open apple heif files yet.
        
           | Rinzler89 wrote:
           | It should with the Microsoft HEIF plugin:
           | https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pmmsr1cgpwg?hl=en-us
        
             | Saris wrote:
             | Thanks! Good to know.
        
             | chris_wot wrote:
             | Doesn't work with "live" photos.
        
         | shzhdbi09gv8ioi wrote:
         | I used to use irfranview for many years, but I rarely ever use
         | Windows anymore. I recently started to use oculante [1] for
         | image viewer because its cross os. Before that, I used imv on
         | Linux and xee on macOS.
         | 
         | 1: https://github.com/woelper/oculante
        
           | dantondwa wrote:
           | This is amazing! Thank you for sharing it.
        
         | AlienRobot wrote:
         | I prefer JPEGView on Windows. What do you think is the best
         | alternative for Linux?
        
           | Semaphor wrote:
           | Just saw this mentioned above, might as well ask here: why?
           | It looks to only support a small fraction of features.
        
             | netol wrote:
             | It's faster to load images
        
         | ano-ther wrote:
         | It is very much present tense at least to me. It's among the
         | first programs on all new Windows machines that I set up.
         | 
         | Plus, there are Windows Store and portable versions which help
         | to use it on otherwise locked-down company computers.
        
           | loughnane wrote:
           | I was like this too. I moved away from windows machines (to
           | Linux) for good in 2019 though so now I don't use it.
           | 
           | If I had to go back it would def be one the first I
           | installed.
        
         | AltruisticGapHN wrote:
         | XnView is great. Although I had to tweak the CSS to have a
         | clean UX removing all the excess edges and separators and add
         | dark background.
        
         | nickjj wrote:
         | IMO it's up there, I've been using it for over 20+ years.
         | 
         | IrfanView and foobar2000 (mp3 player) haven't left my side
         | since I started using them. Ditto (clipboard manager) has also
         | earned its place.
        
           | monkpit wrote:
           | To add to that, for me mplayer was clutch for a long time,
           | nowadays I opt for VLC though.
        
             | integricho wrote:
             | mv2player was a really good option for a period of time,
             | it's a shame it just disappeared, not even it's source code
             | can be found.
        
               | whitten wrote:
               | That sounds bad. Is it on any old shareware sites ?
        
           | hilbert42 wrote:
           | Right, foobar2000 is great isn't it?
        
           | baq wrote:
           | Of the three, ditto easily takes no. 1 spot. Must've saved me
           | weeks of juggling windows and trying to remember where stuff
           | was at this point. It's a superpower, a true game changer if
           | I ever saw one.
           | 
           | Maccy on macOS is about half as good which is still an
           | absolute unit of a tool. Couldn't use a Mac without it.
        
         | fmajid wrote:
         | Because many HN readers have moved on from Windows.
        
       | Ekaros wrote:
       | I wish I had corporate credit card... I could get myself copy for
       | work...
        
       | NelsonMinar wrote:
       | 4MB to download the installer, back in the days when programs
       | just did the thing they did and didn't include runtimes for
       | entire virtual environments.
        
         | Rinzler89 wrote:
         | An average PC also had 64-256MB of RAM instead of 8-32GB.
        
           | vitro wrote:
           | I told my friend once: - "I have 8MB of RAM" - "That's cool,
           | imagine having 16..."
        
             | stevesimmons wrote:
             | My first computer had 3583 bytes of RAM...
        
         | AlienRobot wrote:
         | But what if you want to display Full HD video in the image
         | viewer from an URL? Wouldn't you need Electron for that?
         | 
         | Also I was under the impression just the DLLs for all the image
         | formats would be over 4 MB. I wonder how large is it
         | uncompressed.
        
       | anta40 wrote:
       | IrfanView is one of my "must to have apps", going back to Win 98.
       | For simple image editing (resizing, cropping etc) and batch
       | processing, it's though to beat.
       | 
       | Now I mostly work on macOS, and miss it. I guess XnView is close
       | enough.
        
         | WXLCKNO wrote:
         | Same, using it since 1998 (I was 9, 35 now).
         | 
         | Any windows PC I use doesn't feel right without the irfanview
         | logo somewhere.
        
         | Ylpertnodi wrote:
         | I love(d) infan view, but just got used to (a portable version
         | of) Xnview. I keep going back to irfan, but again - as much as
         | it is an amazing piece of software, Xn for me.
        
       | donatj wrote:
       | That's a name I have not heard in a long while. I used to use it
       | back on Windows 95 because it was a faster way to view JPEGs than
       | opening Internet Explorer. Everything about that makes me feel
       | old.
        
         | 101008 wrote:
         | I opened the link first and I kept a few seconds trying to
         | remember what we had to use to open JPEGs and GIFs back then.
         | Then I read your comment. Right, IE for images. What a fun
         | world we lived on!
        
           | integricho wrote:
           | ACDSee 2.4 and 3.1 were similarly legendary and fast in both
           | startup time and overall performance of image loading.
        
             | omnibrain wrote:
             | When ACDsee got bloated (and the shareware screen to
             | nagging) I switched to IrfanView.
        
         | AlienRobot wrote:
         | >I used to use it back on Windows 95 because it was a faster
         | way to view JPEGs than opening Internet Explorer.
         | 
         | That's an amazing sentence. We should frame it and put it in a
         | museum. Actually someone should make a book filled just with
         | quotes like this, call it "Life Before the Gigahertz" or
         | something.
        
           | necubi wrote:
           | I see so many comments these days bemoaning how slow modern
           | software has gotten, but no one seems to remember/have been
           | alive for the time when just rendering an image would take
           | multiple seconds.
           | 
           | Just goes to show that our expectations scale with the
           | available technology.
        
             | muxator wrote:
             | And now decoding a jpeg takes the blink of an eye, but we
             | wait five seconds for a widget to render. When it does, we
             | click somewhere else, because in that exact moment the
             | layout was reflown.
        
           | Terr_ wrote:
           | News quotes followed by a link to an audio file that
           | discloses its length and probable (larger) time to download.
        
         | bitwize wrote:
         | Everybody was down with either IrfanView or ACDSee to look at
         | their collection of uudecoded por--er, _photographic human
         | figure studies_ they got off USENET.
        
         | Semaphor wrote:
         | Still a part of the standard software I install on every new
         | install.
        
           | cellularmitosis wrote:
           | As an only occasional windows user, I certainly wouldn't mind
           | seeing such a list, maybe in a GitHub gist if you find
           | yourself bored one day :)
        
             | throwup238 wrote:
             | Not the OP but I use a subset of the software available on
             | https://ninite.com/ (IrfanView included)
        
               | Semaphor wrote:
               | Used to use that as well, but the selection was too
               | limited for me, so I first switched to chocolatey, and
               | nowadays, winget.
               | 
               | This way I can install almost everything I want with one
               | command.
               | 
               | I'll post my list tomorrow when I'm back on my PC.
        
       | bxparks wrote:
       | For quick cropping, rescaling, and batch processing, this is the
       | BEST image editor on _Linux_ (using Wine of course).
        
       | gedy wrote:
       | Was a nice tool, but boy I hated seeing it's weird icon on every
       | image files (before images had icon previews)
        
       | scotty79 wrote:
       | FastStone gang forever
        
       | pdntspa wrote:
       | Still the best!
        
       | Dwedit wrote:
       | I wish this program was either open source, or had a plugin API.
        
         | Ekaros wrote:
         | I think it must have some plugin API as it has plenty of
         | plugins, but it seems for details you need to contact
         | developer.
        
       | pentagrama wrote:
       | Around 2000-2007 I used something similar to this one (Windows
       | XP/7 times), I can't recall the name right now.
       | 
       | Someone remember other popular image viewers at the time?
        
         | hexagonwin wrote:
         | Maybe ACDSee?
        
           | pentagrama wrote:
           | That one! Thank you. Nostalgia hit hard.
        
         | ddon wrote:
         | Probably it was compupic or acdsee
        
         | genewitch wrote:
         | graphic converter for mac OS. I'm still looking for a windows
         | or linux image program that lets you do a slideshow and push a
         | button to move/copy the current image to preset folders - for
         | sorting images.
        
       | loughnane wrote:
       | 6MB feels so refreshing.
        
       | redder23 wrote:
       | Ah, the nostalgia when Windows what so shitty that you actually
       | needed a tool for the simplest of the simplest tasks of viewing
       | images in all kinds of formats.
       | 
       | I see no need for it for myself as even Windows has a default
       | image viewer that is enough for me and I mainly use Linux anyway
       | and every decent distro comes with a tool for that. Gnome and KDE
       | both have their own that fit into the DE perfectly.
        
         | cynicalsecurity wrote:
         | Windows is still shitty. Same way, I've been on Linux for more
         | than a decade already. Windows at work still hugely sucks.
        
       | andsoitis wrote:
       | Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IrfanView
       | 
       | Does anyone know what programming language it is made with? I did
       | a cursory search but cannot find any information. Just curious.
        
         | copperx wrote:
         | I don't know for sure, but C++ is always a good guess with that
         | kind of software.
        
           | rav wrote:
           | I downloaded IrfanView and ran "strings" on the exe file, and
           | one of the strings in there is "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime
           | Library" - so that would point towards C++ (although it's not
           | certain from that alone).
        
             | ninkendo wrote:
             | Yeah, Irfanview dates to a time when MS's C compiler was
             | horribly out of date (still stuck in C89 compatibility),
             | and the only way to get remotely modern language features
             | was to compile it as C++, even if you never used any C++
             | features. Everyone was programming in "C++" on windows back
             | then even if they were basically writing C.
             | 
             | So yeah, it's C++ but that doesn't necessarily tell you
             | much, it could still very well be basically C.
        
       | refracture wrote:
       | Still use it. It's faster to open and move through photos than
       | the windows built in one.
        
       | justsomehnguy wrote:
       | Dear Irfan!
       | 
       | Thank you very much.
       | 
       | From myself (1995-...) and my father (1995-2003).
        
       | lencastre wrote:
       | When I have a hundred million images scattered on my computer and
       | I need to quickly see them, nothing like a good script to herd
       | them in a plain txt file and piping it to irfanview! No fidgeting
       | with sixels, bat, or any other gui application. Hands down the
       | fastest way... IMHO.
        
         | jeffreygoesto wrote:
         | feh is very fast as well. But it is only a viewer and does not
         | edit. But under Linux it is my go-to viewer, also for cases
         | like the one you describe.
        
       | knighthack wrote:
       | I've been using IrfanView since at least 1997, if not earlier in
       | 1996.
       | 
       | I still use IrfanView to this day. It's my Swiss knife for a lot
       | of simple photo editing work (cropping, resizing, padding, text-
       | adding, etc), batch-processing, and for browsing single photos
       | through directories.
       | 
       | It's not just good, it's way faster than the bloated
       | alternatives.
       | 
       | To top it off, IrfanView works beautifully on my Linux via Wine,
       | and also on my Mac M1/M2 machines (and as a tool quicker than
       | even Mac's own Preview). It's a primary install for me, whichever
       | any platform I'm working on; and a software that's truly a gift
       | to the world.
        
         | zerkten wrote:
         | How do you get it on macOS?
        
           | millzlane wrote:
           | They're doing it via Wine.
        
           | vrinsd wrote:
           | If it's for non-commercial use, you might find this a
           | spritual equivalent, cross-platform:
           | 
           | https://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/
        
             | KronisLV wrote:
             | Can vouch that this is a nice piece of software, especially
             | the batch convert options (everything from EXIF data,
             | rescaling images and various other transformations, as well
             | as either replacing the original files or various naming
             | options) and supports a bunch of formats.
        
         | nolok wrote:
         | You want to open a picture, FAST, no matter the format or
         | resolution ?
         | 
         | You want to open a picture and then move from one picture to
         | the next in the same folder with arrow keys or mouse scroll,
         | again fast and without loading or menus fonctions or whatever ?
         | 
         | You want to batch process a folder to convert all files to png
         | with the larger side limited to 2000px, keep the location data
         | but reset the orientation data, and remove the original file
         | only if conversion succeeded ?
         | 
         | You want to scan something, rotate it and lossy pixelize an
         | area ?
         | 
         | You want to resize, convert, re-encode a picture from one
         | format to another with tonnes of option without resorting to
         | command line because you're on windows and you would like to
         | just do it in the same app you use for every photo thing ?
         | 
         | You want to cut a part of a picture, or identify the pixel
         | color on a picture, or dozens or other every day operations
         | like that ?
         | 
         | You want all of that to be absurdly fast, aka instant, without
         | any complex menu or dozens of clicks to get where you need ?
         | 
         | I've been using irfanview since the beginning too, and it's not
         | for lack of trying other stuff, it's just so much better. It's
         | for me one of those tools, like Everything or Ditto or
         | SumatraPDF or 7zip or NAPS2 or ... That just get what they are
         | and what they should provide, and do just that, and do it
         | right.
        
           | jhalstead wrote:
           | Do you have a link for Ditto? Searching for "Ditto app" and
           | "Ditto software" returns several possible results for me
           | (e.g. clipboard, music app, managing "copy", content
           | sharing).
        
             | elrostelperien wrote:
             | The most famous is the clipboard one (https://ditto-
             | cp.sourceforge.io/). I'd be surprised if they were
             | referring to another "Ditto" software.
        
               | nolok wrote:
               | You are correct, this is the one I meant. It claims to
               | handle windows clipboard "shortcomings" by remember
               | previous entries and allowing you to access it easily
               | (allowing for multi copy paste situation), and it does
               | just that and do it well.
        
         | 1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote:
         | "It's not just good, it's way faster than the bloated
         | alternatives."
         | 
         | Another shining endorsement of "modern" software development
         | (no, check that... software "engineering")
         | 
         | Before I gave up Windows permanently, and that was over 20
         | years ago, I used this program.
         | 
         | The more things "change" the more they stay the same.
        
         | darreninthenet wrote:
         | Is there a Mac version or do you run it on Mac under
         | Wine/Crossover?
        
       | flas9sd wrote:
       | love that the author still uses the same dithered photos of
       | Jajce, Bosnia - his hometown - as in Win9x days in the about page
       | and website: https://www.irfanview.com/main_about.htm .. make me
       | want to visit.
       | 
       | Edit: typo (thanks)
        
         | shrx wrote:
         | Jajce, not Jacje. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jajce
        
       | colineartheta wrote:
       | Maybe I'll get some hate for this, but years ago when I worked at
       | a civil engineering firm this was the default image viewer IT had
       | mapped every image file to open with - it was a nightmare! Every
       | coworker I had (myself included) would constantly complain about
       | the number of times they had to change to [literally anything
       | else]. There were three distinct things I remember we all hated:
       | 1. The image never opened full size, the window was always small
       | and you had to manually drag the window frame to make it
       | viewable. 2. It didn't "zoom in" when you used your mouse wheel
       | correctly, it would instead cycle through all of the images open
       | in the folder you were working in. 3. When you clicked the arrows
       | at the top to flip through a group of photos in the folder you
       | were in (I recall the keyboard arrow keys not working for this,
       | too), once you reached the end it would go to a black "fake"
       | image, that you then couldn't arrow back. It didn't just cycle
       | through the images, you had to close the window and reopen the
       | image you were on.
       | 
       | Needless to say, I have zero fond memories of this program. Maybe
       | these were nuances of our particular setup (many other such cases
       | at that firm, sadly), but...eh, whatever. There's better out
       | there.
        
         | airstrike wrote:
         | Those are all settings you could have changed yourself.
         | IrfanView is the best image viewer on Windows, hands down.
        
           | colineartheta wrote:
           | Expressing a viewpoint necessitates a downvote?
        
             | baq wrote:
             | See also complaining about downvotes.
        
         | awiesenhofer wrote:
         | And not once in all this time did you open settings and change
         | these behaviours (which you can)? Weird.
        
           | colineartheta wrote:
           | Not once in all that time did I consider using a program with
           | hostile default settings. Weird how hard this might be for an
           | image viewer.
        
         | shlubbert wrote:
         | I'm with you. To me IrfanView always felt incredibly archaic
         | and chaotic, and I never wanted to wade through its 5 billion
         | settings to "fix" it for me. But I guess some people just care
         | more about UX while others just want as many features as
         | possible, and I'm glad it's there for the latter camp.
        
       | 2-3-7-43-1807 wrote:
       | this ... and its text file counterpart ... Notepad++ ... glorious
       | Windows 95. sounds strange but one reason why I'm now on Linux
       | (Mint Cinnamon) is because I liked Windows 95 and XP so much.
       | it's practically the same UI. no tile nonsense. a task bar. a
       | start menu. a good ole desktop. beautiful. (and I also want to
       | mention I did at least once donate to IrfanView /
       | https://www.irfanview.com/main_support_engl.htm)
        
       | grzeshru wrote:
       | IrfanView shouldn't be seen as a relic just because it's "old".
       | Software like IV, Opus/Far just highlight how inadequate the OS
       | provided tools for common navigation/viewing patterns are. Anyone
       | who breaks through the "the computer is a magical box and I don't
       | understand any of it" barrier needs to have a manual tossed at
       | them that covers this software right away. Nevermind gdb/WinDbg.
        
       | omnibrain wrote:
       | IrfanView has a nice feature where it can monitor a folder and
       | always show the newest picture. I used that for a selfie-photo-
       | station for my wedding. A little more details here:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37219826
       | 
       | Another feature I use often ist to copy the current image to a
       | preset location. I use that for quickly pre-sorting photos.
        
       | buescher wrote:
       | No one else misses Picasa?
        
         | chrnola wrote:
         | Sometimes, but the differences in performance between the two
         | were quite vast if I recall correctly.
        
       | creatonez wrote:
       | I've found nomacs to be a good alternative:
       | 
       | https://nomacs.org/
       | 
       | It hits the sweet spot when it comes to clipboard functionality
       | -- You can either copy the image itself, or copy its path on the
       | filesystem. Most image viewers only support one of these
       | commands.
        
       | baobabKoodaa wrote:
       | IrfanView is great, but I'm curious, why is it on top of HN today
       | of all days? Was there something significant happening?
        
         | huytersd wrote:
         | It happens every now and then. Could be as simple as nostalgia.
        
       | devwastaken wrote:
       | Irfanview is so fast that I don't need to convert image sequences
       | to video format. I can just press and hold right arrow key. I do
       | wish there was a way to limit the speed though.
        
       | n3storm wrote:
       | I think I used it from 1997 till 2001, all years I owned a
       | windows pc. And until 2005 at windows pc at work.
        
       | joshxyz wrote:
       | this is the sumatra pdf of images
        
       | 9witz wrote:
       | Have used it since forever. Just used it today an hour ago.
       | Usually to paste a windows screenshot and then do minor editing
       | or cropping.
       | 
       | Now windows has gotten a lot better, with the [WIN][Shift][s]
       | shortcut (so cropping no longer is necessary). But that still
       | misses a feature to quickly draw an arrow.
       | 
       | Irfanview has that. Screenshot, crop, F12, put an arrow to point
       | at something, copy, paste into Teams.
       | 
       | So fast...
        
       | mikl wrote:
       | IrfanView. Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time.
       | Haven't used that the last couple of decades. Interesting to see
       | that it's still around.
        
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