[HN Gopher] Dell tells remote workers that they won't be eligibl...
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Dell tells remote workers that they won't be eligible for promotion
Author : Plasmoid
Score : 24 points
Date : 2024-03-28 19:20 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (arstechnica.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (arstechnica.com)
| 4d4m wrote:
| Have you noticed something similar where you work in the past
| year? (promos going to those in-office or hybrid over remote
| workers)
| para_parolu wrote:
| In my company ELT tries hard to move work to offshore site
| because it's cheaper. In crossoffice team of ~40 people all
| promos were done in offshore site. This way they hope people in
| expensive site will quit.
| grecy wrote:
| Incredible they're willing to admit so openly that promotions are
| not based on work performance.
|
| Makes me want to work less.
| fileoffset wrote:
| Maybe that's the point.
|
| Then all the remote workers can be put on PIP for not working
| as hard as their in-office counterparts
| testemailfordg2 wrote:
| They understand saying no to remote work would mean a lot of
| people will start looking for new jobs. Playing with employees
| emotions attached with promotions to induce them rolling the dice
| by coming to office....Working from office also doesn't mean you
| would get promotion... Your skills and experience are what get
| you ahead truly, rest are a mirage which break with mass firings
| to save costs....
| zer8k wrote:
| > Your skills and experience are what get you ahead truly
|
| In a decade of working in the industry I have found this to
| never have been the case. Every promotion I've ever gotten
| except for maybe the first few gimme promotions was because I
| was on the radar of someone important enough to make that
| decision.
| Noumenon72 wrote:
| Would they really put you on the radar just for being
| memorable and friendly? Or are your skills what put you on
| the radar?
| testemailfordg2 wrote:
| Isn't getting on the radar of someone important, a skill?
| Knowingly or unknowingly you did something that gave you an
| edge..If you did it unknowingly then you can saya pure
| luck..But if you are able to knowingly repeat it, isn't thay
| skill sir...
| briankelly wrote:
| I like the theory that RTO is driven for sake of the commercial
| real estate value. Sure enough:
| https://therealdeal.com/magazine/national-april-2023/dell-di...
| idiotsecant wrote:
| This is a good thing, they're being honest and letting employees
| decide if that matters to them or not. I guarantee a lot of
| places have this as a 'soft' unspoken policy and just don't say
| it out loud.
|
| This is good for workers and good for owners. More places should
| put their policies out in the open.
| reaperman wrote:
| I'm just a shareholder, not employee or customer. For me it
| doesn't inspire confidence in future performance. Seems like
| one of those stupid bean-counter moves that leads to
| organizational decline.
|
| I wouldn't call this "a good thing", except in the very narrow
| perspective that you analyzed (I agree that honesty between
| management and employees generally leads to better outcomes).
| But I think the benefits of the honesty are far outweighed by
| the idiocy of the policy.
| happytoexplain wrote:
| I've seen this take a few times about this story. It is
| despicable to have a blanket policy that excludes remote
| workers from promotions. Or maybe you don't think so! But in
| both cases, whether the company engages in honest communication
| is a tangential issue. There is certainly nothing wrong with
| discussing a related tangential issue, but using the context of
| that issue exclusively to characterize the news story ("this is
| a good thing") makes it seem like there is an ulterior motive,
| or is at the very least confusing.
| conjecTech wrote:
| They just laid off 6,000 people. Sounds more like it was an
| attempt to get people to quit so they don't have to pay as much
| severance.
|
| https://www.firstpost.com/tech/tech-layoffs-2024-dell-fires-...
| fsflover wrote:
| Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39846448
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| that's a dupe also
|
| This is 2 weeks old news
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39728252
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| [dupe]
|
| More discussion a few weeks ago:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39728252
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